The Weekly Drift Series: Week 1 -- RESULTS POSTED!!!

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1st -- Ske - video #12 - 11 votes (removed Ske's vote for himself)

2nd -- Midnight Runner - video #8 - 6 votes

3rd -- HackiRoku - video #1 - 2 votes
___ -- Suzuki - video #4 - 2 votes
___ -- TRi - video #5 - 2 votes
___ -- SMOKEY BANDIT - video #11 - 2 votes

7th -- GEETOWN_DRIFTER - video #2 - 1 vote
___ --Drift2XS - video #3 - 1 vote

9th -- Boundary Layer - video #6 - 0 votes
___ -- Geoff - video #7 - 0 votes
___ -- ~Drift King~ - video #9 - 0 votes
___ -- eds040 - video #10 - 0 votes


Thanks to everyone for participating and voting. I will be contacting Ske by PM to get his picks for the theme and location of WDS Week 4.

Thanks again guys. 👍👍

Tomorrow and new theme/location will be announced for WDS Week 3, and the WDS Week 2 Poll will be constructed. Please be sure to read the changes to the polling system for next week - they can be found in the first post of that thread.

Well done BL! Looking forward to the entries!

Hmmm, this is going to be fun since I'm out of retirement.

I'll give it a shot!

I wonder if we or someone can post a demo.

Im In!

Count me in.

im IN as well....lets party

Im gonna try to give my 100% on that uphill drift tomorow. If the result is good im gonna PM you BL.

Sign me up BL. I have been looking forward to this. I have never drifted that track before so will be all new to me. Good luck to everyone that enters.

Nice, good participation already. 👍 Get to work on them entries.

I hope the track section satisfies everyone. I tried to be careful with my selection to find something suitable for beginners, but with a few hidden twists to challenge more experienced drifters looking to stretch the envelope.

Good luck guys! And remember, don't post your videos here - just send me the YouTube link before the deadline and I'll look after everything next Sunday.

Only thing that bothers me is that the 1st lap replay angles of those turns are lousy... so I have to run one and a half laps before going for it

Anyway, got a replay saved now but I'll try various other cars to see if I can improve it

(btw, why not turn 10?)

Should we do like the GTPDC, record one replay from track cam, then another from an above the car cam?

And i agree with ske about turn 10.

Count me in as well

nah, just the two turns for this one guys. The map is already made Sorry. I wanted to keep it short.

About the cameras: lets take an informal poll here since this will be run by me as much as it is going to be run the rest of you. Let's get some input

Should we:
a) leave it as is, using only the single track view + display (small vids)
b) use track view and a chase view (larger/longer vids)
c) let people get creative with choice of track view or dive cams, with a mandatory chase view + display.
d) forget track/dive views and just do a chase view + display
e) Track view w/OSD + freestyle view (onboard, dive, whatever) -- Ske's suggestion
f) other: _______________________________


I admit, I neglected to consider the camera angles on this section of track when I selected it. I was more concered with the difficulty of the section.

Post your choice by Wednesday, and feel free to discuss cost/benefit of each. I'm quite open to rule changes at this point. ...but the track section is in stone for this week.

Ill Pick B and/or C becuase you have your choice of camera angle(dive/track) and make it look good, then everyone will have the same exact chase camera view so then its judged by skill and not the camera you picked.

A, would be bad for some considering some tracks have places were you cant see the car at all, like at El Cap were the camera drifts off to look at the mountain, while you can be doing donuts and ramming the wall, flipping your car etc.

Just My 2 Cents.

I just want to make sure I am thinking of the same camera. The track camera is the one where the view changes every so often right? I agree with Drift King, we should have the track camera and the camera that follows behind the car. It would make it easier to judge the chase cam if the track cam didn't have favourable angles.

Just had my first go at the corners, will have to practice a bit before I am ready to record. Can't wait to see everyones video.

I have a good base video down, i still have a week, so im going to try to push the envelope as far as it can go since this is one of my top drifting tracks.

(B) so u can see and rate the drift better:tup: , i dont want a dive cam because this is a drift comp not an art show

Yes, by track cam I mean the default, normal view.

I'll continue to think about this, but so far I'm thinking that c) isn't a bad option. Allowing people to use dive can keep things fresh from vid to vid. I know as a GTPDC judge that after seeing two or three runs I would get bored by the same cams all the time.

I'd like these events to be fun and lively, so I have nothing against bringing in dive cams and letting people exercise their creativity - this might serve as some sort of equalizer between those new to drifting, and the vets. But ya, we would need the chase cam to verify that the replay isn't fabricated from several runs.

The points I'm still debating for myself are:
1. Would doing this take some of the focus away from the drifting and put more on the editting?
2. If so, is this necessarily a bad thing?

1. - Since these will be judged by everyone, it's entirely up to each individual voter what to base their decision on. Undoubtedly some would be taken in by a lot of flash and pretty angles (heck, I would be), it'd then be up to the entrant whether or not they want to try and target those voters. So I guess my answer to question 1 is... maybe.

2. - I said from the start that this competition shouldn't be as serious or heavily structured as the GTPDC's are. I think permitting dive cams would be a good step to differentiate the WDS from the GTPDC's. It would let the entrants put a little more personality into their runs and compose their video based on what's important to them, not what is important on a GTPDC scorecard.

Please keep posting idea and comments. This is just me rambling off my thoughts and in no way represents a decision on my part. I could quickly swing the other way given a good argument. We'll tally things on Wednesday, so keep your replays saved at least until then incase you have to record another view and render your vid again.

Ok,
i read some point of vue and for myself the car cam
(inside the car) is the best to judge the angle on turn, the speed effect and is a non cheatable view...for example make 2 or 3 run and make one with all best drift. this is not possible, and for the lenght of video i dont think judge gonna be bored if is the same view.
Ps(outside the car is too boring to watch) and more complicated to evaluate if anyone choose different cam effects.

How about

e) Track view w/OSD + freestyle view (onboard, dive, whatever) to bring out the most of the drift... One would have to point out that keeping this replay smooth and tidy to show the drift as it is would be ideal

I'll add that as an option.

Choice C makes the best sense to me bud. Nothing wrong with having fun. But there needs to be a view that clearly shows all the aspects of the drift.

HackiRoku

Ok,
i read some point of vue and for myself the car cam
(inside the car) is the best to judge the angle on turn, the speed effect and is a non cheatable view...for example make 2 or 3 run and make one with all best drift. this is not possible, and for the lenght of video i dont think judge gonna be bored if is the same view.
Ps(outside the car is too boring to watch) and more complicated to evaluate if anyone choose different cam effects.

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I'm going to have to disagree here.

The inside camera is the least communicative of all the views. There are many times when you THINK there is lots of angle but it's really the terrain/track as viewed from inside the car. It's also very hard to see smoothness of weight transfer and other aspects of the drift.

I like the in-car view best for driving, but for replays(especially drift replays) I find it to be the worst.

how about this....Dive cam/any carcam, so u can make ur vid. flashy then it will show what u did.

yeah im agree with you swift for the transfer drift and show the smoothest of you drift too.
But in so many track we loose the car view and i think special cam view gonna be too easy to cheat and too difficult to make a good point of view of video for judges.
Some cam effect show your drift more great than is originally and for this only point im vote for inside view car.

Confirming my entry.

and about the cameras,default view with OSD + roof cam+osd,one after another or picutre in picture,if the entrant has the software(Vegas,Premiere ect.) that allows such editing of capped files+ some music.

I'll send my entry in once the camera issue is settled.

i might be in.
and if im not ill make a demo at least.

Someone give an example of each so we can see what works best.