Audi sells more cars than BMW and MB combined in UK

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Audi UK Sales Race Ahead Again in January

The four rings outsells its two German prestige rivals

· Record-breaking January recorded by Audi UK with 8,553 sales posted, exceeding the combined totals of its German premium rivals (8,291 cars)
· 2006 was sixth successive record sales year for Audi UK (86,003 cars)
· Dramatic upturn partly attributable to expansion of range from 6 models in 1997 to 23 today

More evidence of the remarkable ascent of the Audi brand in the UK has been provided by its January 2007 sales figures, which for the first time have exceeded its premium German rivals’ combined sales total for the same month. This telling news follows the brand’s recent announcement of a sixth successive record sales year in 2006.

With sales of 8,553 cars in January, equating to an impressive market share of 5.2 per cent, Audi recorded a huge 32.6 per cent increase on the same period last year, and in the process not only overtook each of its two German premium sector rivals, but also surpassed their combined total sales (8,291 cars).

In 2006 Audi UK sold a record 86,003 cars in Britain - its sixth successive year of concerted growth. The ‘Vorsprung durch Technik’ brand’s sales have more than doubled since 1999 when 40,615 cars found homes in the UK.

This migration to the rapidly evolving Audi has been effected largely through a rapid range expansion from just 6 model lines ten years ago to 23 models today.

“We are clearly seeing exceptional demand for Audi, and this is creating by far the biggest order bank we have ever seen in the UK,” commented Head of Audi Operations, Gary Savage. “Our dramatic sales totals actually disguise the fact that at least four of our ranges are production limited and had we been able to make more cars, we could have sold even more in January as well as last year as a whole,” he concluded.

Director of Audi UK Jeremy Hicks emphasised that the sales records are real and not being achieved by resorting to ‘manipulation’: “We are attracting a steeply rising number of clients to Audi but we are not achieving this by ‘overheating’ any individual model segment. Our growth is coming principally from the expansion of our range which is set to increase further this year with the arrival of the new R8 sports car and the A5 Coupe,” he said.

Source: Fourtitude
 
It's all those hairdressers who've been waiting for the new TT to come out ;)
 
Just imagine how many cars audi will sell when all the junior executives lay their eyes on the A5 :D

And all the london city boys see the R8 ;)

:D
 
In the US, GM sold more cars than MB and BMW and Audi combined.

I suppose that means something.
 
In the US, GM sold more cars than MB and BMW and Audi combined.

I suppose that means something.

It means nothing when the company is loosing billions of dollars every year, even though it mainly sells dirt cheap cars on a major mass production scale ;)
 
GM sells a lot of fairly expensive (think USD 25,000) sedans that are mostly very bad and a few sportier things. And a hell of a lot of fleet sales and trucks.

But Audi is not just selling R8s either. Sales are good, thats good. Doesn't automatically mean the company is doing better than MB or BMW. It could be, but sales don't imply that. Which is the point I was making with GM.
 
None of this really matter, because BMW's profit margins are still the second highest margins in the entire industry. For all we know, BMW still made more money than Audi did in the U.K.
 
Where does it say that Audi outsold BMW and Mercedes combined? All it says is that it outsold them.
Right here:
More evidence of the remarkable ascent of the Audi brand in the UK has been provided by its January 2007 sales figures, which for the first time have exceeded its premium German rivals’ combined sales total for the same month.
 
None of this really matter, because BMW's profit margins are still the second highest margins in the entire industry. For all we know, BMW still made more money than Audi did in the U.K.

toyota has the 2nd biggest profit margins.

BMW makes 2500 euros per car, audi makes 1600 profit per car.

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If audi sales in the US wasnt so dismal audi would be the leading premium car manufacturer sales wise. Once the A5 and new A4 hit they could very well take over BMW. 2008 will be the year to watch.
 
No, Toyota does not. BMW has a 10% profit overall worldwide as a brand, coming second. Porsche has an 18% profit, in first.
I really don't want to have to go find the magazine that said this, as I'm not even sure which one did, but I can if need be.
Poverty
If audi sales in the US wasnt so dismal audi would be the leading premium car manufacturer sales wise.
Don't start. That argument has been beaten like a dead horse already as well.
 
No, Toyota does not. BMW has a 10% profit overall worldwide as a brand, coming second. Porsche has an 18% profit, in first.
I really don't want to have to go find the magazine that said this, as I'm not even sure which one did, but I can if need be.

Don't start. That argument has been beaten like a dead horse already as well.

I can find a article from late 2006 that says bmw is no longer the 2nd most profitable manufacturer and that toyota has taken its position.
 
I can find a article from late 2006 that says bmw is no longer the 2nd most profitable manufacturer and that toyota has taken its position.
Regardless, my money is on BMW still being far ahead of Audi. profit wise.
 
It's all those hairdressers who've been waiting for the new TT to come out ;)
My first and last thought regarding this thread.

Except...

Just imagine how many cars audi will sell when all the junior executives lay their eyes on the A5

And all the london city boys see the R8
Who does the A5 compete with again if it's not the 6 series?
 
It means nothing when the company is loosing billions of dollars every year, even though it mainly sells dirt cheap cars on a major mass production scale ;)

No. It outsells all 3 because GM's trucks are extremely popular here. Only Toyota's Tundra rivals them. 2nd off, Pontiac's Solstice/Saturn Sky are starting to do well, and the Corvettes have remained bargin sports cars.

You say 2008 will be a year to watch, and that you mean Audi. No, it'll be a year to see how well GM does now that they finally have an Australian monster coming with a new Camaro, and soon, a new CTS-V.

As for BMW, expect sales to shoot up this year. Why? Well, let's just say the new flagship car is almost set to go with the 3 Series sells still going strong.
 
I posted the figures of how much profit each manufacturer makes per vehicle.

And quoted very many sources in the process.

Buick makes $10 million per vehicle.

Acura makes $2.00.

See how we can all do that?
 
toyota has the 2nd biggest profit margins.

BMW makes 2500 euros per car, audi makes 1600 profit per car.

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If audi sales in the US wasnt so dismal audi would be the leading premium car manufacturer sales wise. Once the A5 and new A4 hit they could very well take over BMW. 2008 will be the year to watch.

This article: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/

Says BMW makes US$3200 per car and Audi makes US$1580.

That equates to 2400 EUR for BMW and 1200 EUR for Audi. A little different from your figures. Weird.
 
OK I've just checked the SMMT (Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders) Jan 2007 registration figures, these figures are provided by the DVLA and manufacturers themselves and are as follows.

Audi - 8,553 (5.16%)
BMW - 3,683 (2.27%)
MB - 4,689 (2.83%)

BMW & MB Combined = 8,372

The claim of 5.2% market share would simply appear to be 5.16% rounded to one place of decimal and the combined BMW & MB registrations appear to have lost 81 cars, which is a bit odd (BTW I will always take the SMMT figures over any manufacturer claim, the SMMT are independent and despite what Audi may like to claim manufacturers will always present figures to best suit there own needs).

Still its a good start to the year, lets see if they can maintain it.

Regards

Scaff
 
If audi sales in the US wasnt so dismal audi would be the leading premium car manufacturer sales wise. Once the A5 and new A4 hit they could very well take over BMW. 2008 will be the year to watch.
Yes. If more people bought Audis, Audi would sell more cars. Brilliant.
 
Isn't the reason for this all that Audi dominates the low ends of the segment?

In the US at least I see six or seven 7-serie and about 10 S-classes for every A8. The other day I read on F-chat that a guy had traded in his '04 A8L daily driver for a 400 just for the hell of it, and he noted that the A8L had depreciated more in one year than the 400 cost. Think about that for a second. They have zero presence in the segments where the most money is to be made.
 
If audi sales in the US wasnt so dismal audi would be the leading premium car manufacturer sales wise. Once the A5 and new A4 hit they could very well take over BMW. 2008 will be the year to watch.

You do know that the 3 series vert isn't on sale yet . also BMW has got to new completly cars coming out in 2008 the , ruomered X6 , I'm not sure if teh new X5 is on sale or not as we still didn't get them here . Also there could be a new 6 series in the works for all we know as the 6 series. also you've got the 3 series M3 4 door /coupe/ vert . so its not only Audi coming out with new cars ;)
 
You do know that the 3 series vert isn't on sale yet . also BMW has got to new completly cars coming out in 2008 the , ruomered X6 , I'm not sure if teh new X5 is on sale or not as we still didn't get them here . Also there could be a new 6 series in the works for all we know as the 6 series. also you've got the 3 series M3 4 door /coupe/ vert . so its not only Audi coming out with new cars ;)

The new X5 is on sale now in the states. :)
 
Isn't the reason for this all that Audi dominates the low ends of the segment?

In the US at least I see six or seven 7-serie and about 10 S-classes for every A8. The other day I read on F-chat that a guy had traded in his '04 A8L daily driver for a 400 just for the hell of it, and he noted that the A8L had depreciated more in one year than the 400 cost. Think about that for a second. They have zero presence in the segments where the most money is to be made.

Thats only for america. Your experience with audi sales figures and depreciation means next to nothing on a world wide scale.

So your conclusion that they have zero presence on where the most money is made is wrong.

This article: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/

Says BMW makes US$3200 per car and Audi makes US$1580.

That equates to 2400 EUR for BMW and 1200 EUR for Audi. A little different from your figures. Weird.

I have seen those figures before, now I will post my sources, not just about the profit made per manufacturer but also the article where toyota now makes more money per car than bmw ;)
 
If audi sales in the US wasnt so dismal audi would be the leading premium car manufacturer sales wise.

Thats only for america. Your experience with audi sales figures and depreciation means next to nothing on a world wide scale.

So which is it? Are US sales important for Audi or are they not?

No wait. Let me answer that question.

According to Audi's 2006 Interim report, the USA is Audi's third largest market (Q1-2 40,455 units), right after Great Britain (Q1-2, 46,550).

For 2005, the USA was Audi's 2nd largest market and it's largest export market.


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Thats only for america. Your experience with audi sales figures and depreciation means next to nothing on a world wide scale.

So your conclusion that they have zero presence on where the most money is made is wrong.
No it's not, for every Audi A8 I see in the UK I probably see 5 BMW 7 series. I reckon that the BMW 7 series far outsells the Audi A8 globally.

I have seen those figures before, now I will post my sources, not just about the profit made per manufacturer but also the article where toyota now makes more money per car than bmw ;)
Then post them.

In 2006 BMW sold 1,185,088 and increse of %5.2 over 2005's figures. In the first 10 months of 2006 audi sold 757,700 cars, on that average, that takes Audi to just over 900,000 cars sold for the entire year. That leaves then nearly 300,000 cars short of BMW's annual sales. The biggest reason imo that Audi has had better figures over the last month or two than BMW and Mercedes is the new Audi TT, the R8 will only make up a fraction of total Audi sales over the year. The new TT though is a mass distribution product. BMW and Mercedes haven't launched anything new in the fashionable sportscar market recently.

http://www.bmwgroup.com/e/nav/index.html?../0_0_www_bmwgroup_com/home/home.html&source=overview
http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en2/ab...i_heading_for_new_record_figures_in_2006.html
 
I see more A8's in London than I see 7ers. And neither car makes loads of money for either manufacturer on a overall income basis. A6 and 5 series, 3er and A4, Z4 and TT is what both audi and bmw depend on for their wages. Oh and their SUV's.

im still looking for the sources. Learn to be patient.
 
I have seen those figures before, now I will post my sources, not just about the profit made per manufacturer but also the article where toyota now makes more money per car than bmw ;)
Now I know south Wales isn't exactly 'with it' but what exactly does 'now' mean in London at the moment?

[EDIT] Oh so it means you're looking for them.
 
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