Vive Le France - 2007 Magny Cours Grand Prix

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So with just a couple of days before the teams pit it out for the start of a back to back of GPs in Europe - France being followed by the British GP - it's an important time for all the teams, could Lewis have a big lead going into Silverstone? Could Ferrari look capable of challenging the McLarens? Could Honda become the Honda A-Team?
 
id like to say kimi will take the race, or even better webber :sly: , but i cant see the mclarens being beaten at the moment. u never know though.
 
It will be nice to see how Ferrari will do in France. Honda has to get points with the B spec car. I hope it will be a good race:tup:
 
Seems in cornering it's advantage McLaren, but Ferrari still have the overall straight line speed, the reason they still can't beat McLaren is because you don't get many tracks in the world with few corners. Magny Cours isn't close to 50 50 on straights and corners...so I think Ferrari may be closer...but they'll still be fighting with BMW if anything
 
Remember there has been a massive test in Silverstone and Ferrari appear to have made gains, but we’ll ultimately have to wait until Saturday to find out where the balance of power lies after this latest test.
 
Magny Cours has that long "straight", which will probably benefit the McLarens. They walked the field at Indy, and with a similar combo of straights and tight turns, I don't see much of a change, unless Ferrari has a superior tire stop strategy. Then again, in the past 10 years, Ferrari seems to do well here compared to McLaren.

Of course, Ferrari might be too busy worrying about powder in the fuel tanks.
 
Meanwhile I’m surprised that the Ferrari has passed scrutineering in the last two Grand Prix.



See the small wing behind the brake duct? If that isn’t an unsprung aerodynamic device I don’t know what is.
 
Yeah,it does seem Ferrari do always get away with it.....but i'm hoping Honda do get to perform well in Magny-Cours.Honda has the most terrible start to their career,not to mention being outperformed by a B-team (Super Aguri) Hope all that trouble in the car would be fixed on the b-spec car.And by the way,Renault could perform well here if Michelin was around........it could be surprise if they perform well at Magny-Cours (being a French team....)even though Ferrari and McLaren always run away from the rest of the field
 
Although I really dislike it when one team (any team) dominates, the coverage of the battles for the lower points scoring positions has been pretty good. I would love to see a Honda vs. Super Aguri battle for 7th and 8th. Maybe throw a Williams and a Renault in there too. But wait, who it that coming up from behind to join the fight? Its Ralf!!!

My prediction:
McLaren
Ferrari
BMW

??? but a lot of fun to watch.
 
Blake
See the small wing behind the brake duct? If that isn’t an unsprung aerodynamic device I don’t know what is.
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No, no... its a... ah... ground hog deflector, yeah, thats it, a ground hog and beaver delflector!!
 
It's the second race on the same engine for the majority of the teams after Indy. Any bets on who's engine will blow first?
 
I'll guess Renault for some obscure reason. Come to think of it, there hasn't been much engine trouble this year compared to years passed.
 
Pre-Weekend Prediction..

1st: Alonso
2nd: Hamilton
3rd: Heidfeld
4th: Massa
5th: Raikkonen

Then pick 3 from..

Kovalinen, Kubica, Fisichella, Webber, Coulthard, Barrichello, Trulli, Rosberg, Button, Wurz, Davidson or Sato..
 
peterjford
No, no... its a... ah... ground hog deflector, yeah, thats it, a ground hog and beaver delflector!!
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Not to mention bird deflector. :D

On another subject, I've heard something about this year being the last year the the French GP will be raced at Magny Cours. Anything as to where the French GP will take place next year?
 
CAMikaze
Not to mention bird deflector. :D

On another subject, I've heard something about this year being the last year the the French GP will be raced at Magny Cours. Anything as to where the French GP will take place next year?
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Maybe the Bugatti Circuit or even Circuit de la Sarthe? :lol: i don't know....but i think it would be better to host on another circuit in France (a street circuit i supposed?) cause Magny Cours is just plain boring for me.....(it was hosted back in 1991,the year when i was born!) and yes,it true.It is the last race on Magny Cours.This is proof:Link from Wikipedia.But after reading the article,it could be even worse if France was replaced by another grand prix next year (probably being replaced by Abu Dhabi,Valencia or Singapore....) i hope they do make another grand prix in France....
 
There will be a French Grand Prix from 2009. The event is simply going on hiatus in order to allow time for a new circuit to be built. Magny-Cours is being dropped because it's difficult to access and a bland circuit. Locations that are currently being scouted include somewhere near Charles de Gaulle International Airport, somewhere near EuroDisney and possibly Paris itself (but with Mr. E announcing the Indian Grand Prix will not be a street circuit, it's unlikely Paris will be).
 
Interesting winglet there. Even if it's stable with the wheels, it shouldn't be...


I'm flying during the race, but at least I've got Qualifying to watch.
 
Magny-Cours keeps getting death threats every year; yet, it's been the only track for the French GP since 1991. Paul Ricard is always tipped as its replacement on the schedule, but it always manages to wind up back at Nevers. Teams have never been all that happy with the location, since it's apparently in the middle of farmland, quite distant from city life; where as the Circuit de Paul Ricard isn't too far from the coast.

Personally, I'd like to see it return to Paul Ricard, since it's not as bland as Magny Cours, and it has a bit more history to it. (Of course, Clermont-Ferrand would be ideal, but let's be realistic, it's not 1972 anymore.)
 
mnm_bmx
Yeah,it does seem Ferrari do always get away with it.....
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Well, let’s face it. They have been on the car for two Grand Prix, and in a world where every detail of every car is examined—not just by the stewards in scrutineering, but by other teams too—they haven’t been pulled up for it. They’ve passed scrutineering twice.

I think we have to assume that they’re considered legal, but from my understanding of the regulations I don’t know why they’re legal. From my interpretation it’s totally clear that they’re illegal.

EDIT: I was reading article 3 in relation to bodywork when I made that opinion, reading article 11.4 shows that they’re completely legal.

FIA 2007 Technical Regulations
11.4 Air Ducts
Air ducts around the front and rear brakes shall be considered part of the braking system and shall not protrude beyond:
  • a plane parallel to the ground situated at a distance of 160mm above the horizontal centreline of the wheel;
  • a plane parallel to the ground situated at a distance of 160mm below the horizontal centreline of the wheel;
  • a vertical plane parallel to the inner face of the wheel rim and displaced from it 120mm toward the centreline of the car.
Furthermore, when viewed from the side the ducts must not protrude forwards beyond the periphery of the tyre or backwards beyond the wheel rim.

All measurements will be made with the wheel held in a vertical position.
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That clears it all up. :)
 
But i do also think it is legal if it was stated.But mind you,last years Ferrari did run a few illegal part (the movable front wing i think....) It is me or it does seem that Ferrari do always did radical changes to their car from year to year (especially the f2007.It has a longer wheel base and a zero-keel suspension configuration)
 
mnm_bmx
the movable front wing i think....
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Ah, but everyone does that. All things flex under load, and teams were just building the parts to pass scrutineering, while letting them flex under the higher forces created at speed.
 
Blake
Ah, but everyone does that. All things flex under load, and teams were just building the parts to pass scrutineering, while letting them flex under the higher forces created at speed.
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During the first Grand Prix (Bahrain?) that McLaren had the 'upper' front wing, you could see it deflect downward at speed from the in-car camera. The commentators for the U.S. broadcast even commented on it.
 
Sureshot
Would it ever be feasible for it to be at Le Mans?
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If Bugatti au Mans counts, then yes; the 1967 Grand Prix d' A.C.F. (aka French GP) was held there. So dull circuits for F1 racing is nothing new.

But F1 cars at La Sarthe? Only in a video game! When Spa goes back to the 8.9-mile circuit, then we'll talk. Otherwise, it's about as likely as a Grand Prix d'Lune.
 
peterjford
During the first Grand Prix (Bahrain?) that McLaren had the 'upper' front wing, you could see it deflect downward at speed from the in-car camera. The commentators for the U.S. broadcast even commented on it.
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But most of the top teams used flexi wings.
 

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