Open ◆ SNAIL [Spec] Racing - Presented by ButtKicker: Feel What You've Been Missing

Discussion in 'SNAIL Racing League' started by zer05ive, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. hooker4

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    Shouldnt the GTR be on racing med tires? Its over 600pp. 602 to be exact. Street Cars
    below 450 PP -> Sports Hards
    450-499 PP ---> Sports Mediums
    500 PP & up --> Sports Softs
    Race Cars
    below 600 PP -> Racing Hards
    600 PP & up --> Racing Mediums
     
  2. JLBowler

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    All the PP numbers are based on what they are as they sit in the dealership as opposed to what they are after break in. The rest of the "settings section" from the first post (important part in blue):

    Settings
    All league settings are default unless noted below:
    Boost: Off
    Penalty: Weak (and Effective for Free Run) in Divisions 2-5. (Penalties OFF for D1 only)
    Race Finish Delay: 90sec
    Visible Damage: Off
    Mechanical Damage: Light
    Slipstream Strength: Weak
    Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Normal
    Grip Reduction: Real
    Vehicle Tuning: Prohibited
    Driving Aids: Only ABS allowed in Divisions 1-4. (ABS, TCS, and Driving Line are allowed in Division 5 only)
    Tire Restrictions: (based on Dealership PP)
    Street Cars
    below 450 PP -> Sports Hards
    450-499 PP ---> Sports Mediums
    500 PP & up --> Sports Softs
    Race Cars
    below 600 PP -> Racing Hards
    600 PP & up --> Racing Mediums
    Tuner Cars
    Classified as either Street or Race cars based on this list
     
  3. hooker4

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    I see that now. Oh well I tried :sly: This car handles awesome on mediums.
     
  4. Rallywagon

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    Anyone see this about the Furai? Seems the fellas at topgear burned it to the ground. However, looking at that picture, I have to wonder, especially around the grill and headlight areas. If they are open and swooping, why are they covered up like they had a plastic sheet over them?
     
  5. kcheeb

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    Be in the D2 lounge at 9:00 Eastern for :

    Kart Space II in the 125 Kart - 36 laps
    3/8 mile oval in the 125 Kart - 52 laps - this is available from the SNAIL_Division2 account for download
    Cote d'Azur in the 125 Kart - 8 laps
     
  6. chatva

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    I for one clap my hands!
     
  7. AJKVail

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  8. OwensRacing

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    The PP and tire spec should be based on run in PP not dealership. We don't use dealership figures to race with. :/ this baffles me why that is the rule and not based on broken in PP.

    Cars like these GTR's are far better racing on RM's. seriously the turd Lotus Elise is on RH. LoL
     
  9. Dragonwhisky

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    Have now. Just effin wow. :(. Glad we have that car in GT5 and I hope it re-appears in 6. I expect it will, with the intel we have so far. :)

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    On a steward related note. The new SNAILIRR is awesome, to put it lightly.

    Also, if anyone has the full replays for D1, and access to the google drive replay folder, please upload race 3 & 4 for the night. One or the other is missing and by the time stamps, I believe it to be the 3rd race, which the stewards will need for reviews this week.

    Thank you.

    Dragonwhisky

    p.s. Jlbowler is filling the hole left by Appmaddock. ;) :sly: :D
     
  10. Handlebar

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    I concur with this opinion.

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    I wish APMaddock was 'ere as well.
     
  11. bandit0627

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    I think were all in agreeance with that!
     
  12. Skills

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    zstovall,

    Thanks for your interest!

    We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:

    We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
    Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:

    1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test
    2. You run the Time Trial. (NOTE: The tires selected for this have more grip than our current tire regulations allow, but please follow the directions exactly anyways).
    3. You PM kcheeb with your time from the time trial (no Sunday racing until this is completed).
    4. We assign you to the division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.
    5. We send you a you a PSN friend request from the corresponding SNAIL_Division1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 account. That PSN account's lounge is where you will race on Sunday night.
    6. You drive fast and clean on Sunday :tup:

    The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.

    Please note that we often race DLC from three add-on packs:

    Racing Car Pack
    Course Pack
    Twin Ring Motegi Pack

    If you don't have these add-on packs, you will need to sit out the races in which they are used.

    If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
    To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.

    During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.

    Welcome to S.N.A.I.L. :cheers:
     
  13. Dragonwhisky

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    Gonna weigh in on this tire thing.

    For me I think the whole use of PP, regardless of dealer or broke in, race, street, tuner car should be revamped and use the broke in torque values for the cars to determine tires, period. Putting high torque cars in crappy tires is just not all that much fun, especially for those of us who are human.

    But, if I had my way, we wouldn't run anything on anything less than Racing Hards. But that's just me. This isn't a drifting league.
     
  14. Handlebar

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    Driving (I am not racing after the third wipeout) the 530+ PP cars, especially the 550+ PP cars, on Sport Soft tires makes me feel like I am in a Top Gear Special.

    Unfortunately, it is a 'bad' Special.

    And it is "Top Gear US."

    Clean, controlled, courteous racing is inconsistently viewed in these situations, at least in D5, imho.
     
  15. EAO-HarleyMan

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    Awesome car and track pick hooker. The alpha suits that track well.

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  16. ThePDTX

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    +1

    Love this one, looks like you're popping a wheelie. haha
     
  17. cmbeal317

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    The anticipation is building, I just checked and my G27 has shipped! According to the tracking info from UPS, it's supposed to get here Thursday!!!!:dopey:
     
  18. JLBowler

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    The reasoning behind using dealership PP for selecting tires is that it's an easily obtained verifiable number that everyone can see in their game. Using the broken in PP would require that number to be provided in a timely fashion (which it isn't always) so that it could be posted and drivers could practice as soon as the pick was made without having to wait for the PP number to verified so the tires could be selected. It's a way of keeping it simple and not making any more work for those in charge of regulating such things. I know how much time I put into this league and it's a fraction of what some other put it. Anything that is plug and play without having to go verify it is welcome in my eyes.

    Basing tire selection off of the torque figures alone seems a little shortsighted in my opinion. It would allow for grip under acceleration but would not account for lateral grip or grip while braking. With the tools that we have at our disposal, PP is a much better indicator of overall vehicle performance than torque alone.

    Once GT6 comes out, we can revisit the tire selection guidelines along with everything else that may or may not need to be changed with the new set of tools we get in GT6.
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2013
  19. Skills

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    If it lasts till GT6 I imagine this might be what D1 would look like:
     
  20. zer05ive

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    Thanks, bandit! And thanks for logging this in the S.N.A.I.L. Marketplace so that you earned your $hells, There will be some cool stuff put up for sale/auction and having $hells will be the only way to buy these things. :)
     
  21. fastfox400

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    I agree some people put a lot of time in while other just race. I'm trying my best to find more ways to justify more ways to spend time for the league. I know I'm the new guy around these parts, but I put forth a full effort in helping when it something I believe in. I am willing to help test or do what ever it takes to get some solid data for tires when gt6 comes around. We are so close as of right now, really nothing should be changed. But when GT6 comes around we should put forth a full effort in making SNAIL the best thing around for Spec racing, from the time trials for division placement, all the way to matched division so we don't have people running away with divisions.
     
  22. JJLopez427

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    haha long live to the Elise!
     
  23. zer05ive

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    I thought it was already like that? :)
     
  25. DriftinAssassin

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    So much skill! Jealous Driftin is jealous. :tup:
     
  26. zer05ive

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    Thanks! I updated the lineup post with that info.
     
  27. fastfox400

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    Zero here is the image for combo #2 ad Indy. WE will be doing 9 laps.
     
  28. zer05ive

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    Got it. Thanks!
     
  29. fastfox400

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    I took the original image and Jobyone edited my original one I posted.
     
  30. Skills

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    Well sure but not on Bathurst. Not yet. (fingers crossed)