【Poll】: FD, D1, or neither?

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Between the two which big (highpowered) drift series do you like more?

  • Formula Drift

    Votes: 17 37.8%

  • D1 Grand

    Votes: 21 46.7%

  • Don't like either (I like different series : D1NZ, KOE, EDC, etc.)

    Votes: 7 15.6%
  • Total voters
    45
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*D1 Grand Prix (accidentally pressed enter too early...)

Formula D just had a comp in Japan, so I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on what series they prefer the most. I did not include BDC, Drift Allstars, KOE, D1NZ, EDC or ADGP as responses because IMO don't think they've attempted to expand into different continents to the degree that FD or D1 had done.

FD being from the US has expanded into Asia and we all know D1 had expanded into the US before, and has its own series in Thailand.

I also didn't include the more low power series like MSC or SL because it wouldn't be comparable to the current series in which big power and big tracks were utilized.

I did include the third option for anyone that preferred the other regional series.

This video motivated me to start the poll:

 
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Hmm.. I'd go with D1GP much better driving styles. Don't get me wrong I like FD, especially Chris forsberg's smoothness and consistency and also Forrest wang's angle. So I'm a little in between.
 
@Isho - Feel free to answer, but Why FD, is it the atmosphere, competitive nature, diversity in cars/drivers?
@Djhashbrown - When you mention driving styles, are you referring to how they're less aimed at angle more focused on a tighter race-like line? And i know what you mean about Forsberg's fluidness and Wang's consistent angle.
 
UeoKatsu
@Isho - Feel free to answer, but Why FD, is it the atmosphere, competitive nature, diversity in cars/drivers?
@Djhashbrown - When you mention driving styles, are you referring to how they're less aimed at angle more focused on a tighter race-like line? And i know what you mean about Forsberg's fluidness and Wang's consistent angle.
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Its basically just what you've mentioned plus the quality of their broadcasting.
 
I was referring mainly to their quality of tandems, I like them tight :D.

If The drivers in FD would give the chase car more of a chance to actually "tandem" and not try and gain as much distance during the run, just to gain an advantage, I would say FD would be be the better of the two.

Plus like @Isho said their broadcast is much better, except That time it was cutting out every 5 mins.
 
So honestly I haven't really been following anything so I don't really know the difference between D1GP and FD. Sorry if it offend. However I have been following King Of Europe through Facebook and honestly from what I've seen, it looks more fun than competitive. The coverage and media releases are pretty frequent, and I love seeing the footage from the events. Also seeing the little escorts make my day. :3
 
I'm not following any of them thoroughly, however, I try to follow anything drift related I can when I can.
Formula D is easier to follow online, and I do, when possible. D1 is much harder on this aspect, same for other events. (I did watch a bit of Formula D Japan the other day, and honestly didn't like it one bit).
D1 - and even some smaller competitions such as King of Europe - are much harder to follow where I'm at, but they do have that more "realistic" aproach and are closer to drift roots then Formula D with their multimillion sponsors, multibillion Hp cars and their absurd level of speed (aka drag racing sideways) over angle and style.
So basically, although I prefer D1, I agree with Djhashbrown. Let's have them both.
 
UeoKatsu
*D1 Grand Prix (accidentally pressed enter too early...)

Formula D just had a comp in Japan, so I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on what series they prefer the most. I did not include BDC, Drift Allstars, KOE, D1NZ, EDC or ADGP as responses because IMO don't think they've attempted to expand into different continents to the degree that FD or D1 had done.

FD being from the US has expanded into Asia and we all know D1 had expanded into the US before, and has its own series in Thailand.

I also didn't include the more low power series like MSC or SL because it wouldn't be comparable to the current series in which big power and big tracks were utilized.

I did include the third option for anyone that preferred the other regional series.

This video motivated me to start the poll:

repling......Formula D vs D1GP

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D1GP

I haven't watched either in a long time, but from what I remember D1 was more exciting. Mana-P would have me excited during each run with his commentary. Laughing and telling jokes when funny things happen on track...even the drivers laugh.

If FD had better commentary, maybe it would have held my interest. Both FD and D1 usa had wack cars; minus JTP (fc), matt, tommy, and forest so i've accepted that. It's the ben stein like commentary I guess and the seriousness.













SEND IT!
 
FD is a joke and in will never watch that crap again. Reason: example 1. Long beach and that RX8 hits shall then crashes into the tires and judges give him the win. Pathetic.

I like Drift Muscle
 
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FD is a joke and in will never watch that crap again. Reason: example 1. Long beach and that RX8 hits shall then crashes into the tires and judges give him the win. Pathetic.

I like Drift Muscle
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That hit was in a second run where both had a 0 since the SC300 spun out right after the rx8 crashed w/o getting hit. So that means they had to judge the first run which was in advantage of the rx8. Pretty clear and fair.
 
Isho
That hit was in a second run where both had a 0 since the SC300 spun out right after the rx8 crashed w/o getting hit. So that means they had to judge the first run which was in advantage of the rx8. Pretty clear and fair.
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LOL ah the judging these days! SMH
 
I would have to say I like FD more than D1. Ya FD has it's drawbacks...but it's pushing forward, where as D1 has been stagnant for years now.

Even just going through this thread, lotta D1 people are talking about 2010 or earlier...it's 2014. FD gets better each year, while D1 stays the same or gets worse.

Let's also not forget that, while yes the FD judges make mistakes here and there...D1 judging was a complete and absolute joke for the majority of the time D1 was considered the premier drift championship. It wasn't even judging, it was picking winners based on favoritism, lifetime achievements, and sponsorship...everything but the actual run that just took place.

From my limited understanding of things, you basically had to suck D in order to win a D1 event....that is until Saito came along with his monster JZXs and started beating people so badly (people he wasn't supposed to beat) that the judges were forced to pick a winner based on what actually happened instead of favoritism, in order to save face.

As much as I respect the DK, he ran for the hills with his tail between his legs when people started to call BS on the D1 judges. And since that went down a few years back, D1 has been as stale as month old bread.


In my opinion, neither are perfect, but I think FD is doing more to push the sport forward, helping it grow, whereas D1 is stuck in it's glory years of 5-10 years ago.

What I would love to see is a truly international FD comp help at Ebisu, with a judging panel of both American and Japanese judges. But due to the relationship between D1 and Kumakubo, I doubt that will happen any time soon :(

Isho
I dont get it lol. At any other competition, even Drift Muscle, the outcome would've been the same.
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Totally agree with Ish on this one. If you watched the whole battle, it was the right call to make. Nashida made mistakes on both runs, Moen only made a mistake on the second run (where he hit the wall).

Any comp, any judges would have made the same call.
 
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Crashes happen dude in everything no matter how good you are.

I don't really have a favorite series, because as long as I see cars going sideways I'm happy. But like a lot of people say I don't like the drag off the line in FD. I also prefered to old atmosphere in the early years of FD. It was much more relaxed in my opinion.

I've always been a fan of the independent drifters; if that's what you call them? They guys who bring their personal cars they built out to the big comps, without major sponsorship; like Chris Ward.
 
This is when judging was pure....no big sponsor ,NO ADDED LOCK(sissy stuff) Just fun and no BS politics. The new generation is a joke in all these comps..Whats next they gonna start complaining that its too hot or too windy on the track.

 
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This is when judging was pure....no big sponsor ,NO ADDED LOCK(sissy stuff) Just fun and no BS politics. The new generation is a joke in all these comps..Whats next they gonna start complaining that its too hot or too windy on the track.

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That's why they stopped coming to Vegas was because it was to hot.

And I totally agree with what @twitcher stated. D1 kinda feel off in my opinion. And if you think FD judging was biased D1 stood above all lol
 
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This is when judging was pure....no big sponsor ,NO ADDED LOCK(sissy stuff) Just fun and no BS politics. The new generation is a joke in all these comps..Whats next they gonna start complaining that its too hot or too windy on the track.

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lol
 
The ADGP is the only 'pro' drifting I watch these days. I find it alot more entertaining than any of the other comps around the world.

Someone in FD should grow some and slide a ute. :lol:
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@twitcher

You point out a critical point, which is very similar to MMA fighting.

Like Pride FC and the UFC "narrative" was the issue that Pride was based on favouritism (& Yakuza $ - fixed matches), whereas the latter was solely competitive.

I wonder if it's just how Japan does things like Sumo Wrestling or "Professional Wrestling" and how they see drifting as an "entertainment sport" versus an legitimate sport, but I digress.

The whole D1USA was a sham as it really indicated that Dai/DK was only there to showcase the JP drivers. But, I never really watched the US series, since I found wide tracks to be uninteresting. Nevertheless I still found the Japan series to provide more entertainment value than FD (I wonder if this is the KDF rhetoric, since FD is so focused on the competitive nature of the sport)

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You mention that D1 has stayed stagnant from (2010-2014), is this because the same group drivers are always kind of in the top 10? Or is it the fact that the track selection has dwindled and were replaced by parkinglot (stadium) drifting? Or maybe, is it that the majority of FD driver's are more relatable - since they can speak a common language and possess a different culture - which provided a fresh flavor in comparison to the old cultural/non-english friendly format that D1 had.

I guess what I'm asking is what new things does FD bring to the table besides different car regulations, diversity in cars, type of judging and a different cultural format in your opinion.

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Similar to you I wish FD could incorporate more twisty tracks (not just Ebisu). In the states they got a bunch of road courses like Laguna Seca, Willow Springs or the actual Infineon racetrack that contain technical high speed corners. IMO as a bonus i think twisty tracks are always a better backdrop to look at. The thing that puts me off with FD, is their use of Oval type tracks, which imo feels less exciting to me, then say a run at Autopolis. Until FD narrows the track width in Texas and Atlanta, and has wider track selection that is not majorly based on oval tracks, I will still find D1 to be more entertaining.

* based on Wiki, states have alot of oval tracks, moreso than road tracks - then it may have been business decision as to why they chose to use Oval tracks... :embarrassed:
 

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