pimp racerOh I guess it was semi-auto but that thing can haul ass! and it has a great sound. I love the interior.
Yeah, pretty classy. I don't know why no-one likes them.
pimp racerOh I guess it was semi-auto but that thing can haul ass! and it has a great sound. I love the interior.
I like 'em. Nice styling, and quite a bit of punch with the newer engine.M5PowerYeah, pretty classy. I don't know why no-one likes them.![]()
skip0110I like 'em. Nice styling, and quite a bit of punch with the newer engine.
But especially cool is the supercharged 4.6 LS that Ford engineers took to One Lap of America. 430 hp.
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Yeah I dont know why its not the price the design or the interior? I wonder just wonder why?M5PowerYeah, pretty classy. I don't know why no-one likes them.![]()
pimp racerYeah I dont know why its not the price the design or the interior? I wonder just wonder why?
Yeah I think it might have to do with the companys repution with old people. THe Nacigator pretty nice but the Avatior really nice interior! And a wide variety of interiors to choose from IMO. Hmm.. If Lincoln made a 2 door coupe I would have to say a LS V8 stock with and optional engine with maybe lets say a supercharger and more "beef"?M5PowerBadge I guess. Everyone thinks Lincoln is for old people. Navigator's done a bit to correct that, but they haven't made a sporty 2-door car in 12 years, and maybe more depending on how you look at it.
pimp racerIf Lincoln made a 2 door coupe I would have to say a LS V8 stock with and optional engine with maybe lets say a supercharger and more "beef"?
Yeah the new thunderbird IMO is kinda alright. Things I like about it and things I dont. Would you happen to know how many have been sold? And if the sales are getting good or worse? I think Ford this year in general is gonna do good! Almost of them 2005 Mustangs are sold out! The Ford GT is being sold on ebay for over 275000 and each with over 20 bidders! I have seen at least 10 Ford GT's on ebay sell like hot cakes! I have a feeling Ford is gonna have a great year this year.M5PowerLincoln probably should've gotten the Ford Thunderbird instead of Ford badged as the Lincoln Mark IX.
The Thunderbird was a tremendous flop. Well, maybe not tremendous, but a flop nonetheless.pimp racerYeah the new thunderbird IMO is kinda alright. Things I like about it and things I dont. Would you happen to know how many have been sold? And if the sales are getting good or worse?
I do agree it was a flop but it isnt really that bad if youve ever seen one or sat in one.skip0110The Thunderbird was a tremendous flop. Well, maybe not tremendous, but a flop nonetheless.
It was slow(ish) and the frame was flexy. And the styling was overdone.
M5PowerSales are awful - it's almost a sure thing the Thunderbird will be cancelled after either 2005 or 2006.
Sales are good; it is selling really well.pimp racer@Blackbird the new mustang is selling really good!
skip0110The question with the Mustang--and this goes for every other retro car--is can it keep up these sales once the novelty has worn off?
I'd say yes in the case of the Mustang, since the car underneath that styling is exceptional--so once it is done selling on novelty, it can sell on it's real virtues.
Isnt the Thunderbird heavy for its class also?M5PowerAgree - PT Cruiser sells still because it's a pretty practical package, Mustang will sell because it's a great car, Mini will sell because it's a handling dream for the price. Thunderbird won't sell because it's expensive and dynamically underachieving, New Beetle won't sell (or continue to sell) because it's a piece of trash.
pimp racerIsnt the Thunderbird heavy for its class also?
M5PowerIt isn't really in a class - the $40000 2-seat convertible class is usually reserved for stuff like the BMW Z4, but the Thunderbird doesn't hold a candle to that sort of vehicle.
The really ironic thing is that the styling wasn't the only retro thing about the T-bird. The whole idea of a big, comfortable, expensive convertible Ford "flagship" that was so sucessful for Ford when the T-bird was first realesed (back in the early 60's or whenever) proved to be a total flop in today's market. They should have stuck with the premise behind the MN12 and Fox birds--a kind of fullsize 4-seater musclecar/cruiser.M5PowerIt isn't really in a class - the $40000 2-seat convertible class is usually reserved for stuff like the BMW Z4, but the Thunderbird doesn't hold a candle to that sort of vehicle.