2008 BMW M3: Now In ALMS for 2008 Season

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Haha...

Can we keep him? Pleeeeaaase?
 
Escalade_dude
Thank you Omnis!! I'm glad someone agrees with me! :)
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While I would hate to speak for Omnis here, I don't believe he's serious, after all how many race cars have you been in that have full leather interiors?

I've been in quite a few and I can't remember a full leather finish in any of them (and I'm sure something of that nature would have stuck in my mind).

Just a wild stab in the dark, but he may have been being sarcastic.

Regards

Scaff
 
Escalade_dude
Touché.
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What are you on about now?

BTW - Any chance of these links to details about the M5? The pictures from Motor Trend would be a start.

Thanks

Scaff
 
Scaff
No way on earth did that first picture you posted come from an official BMW site, I've worked closely with BMW both in the UK and Germany and something of that low quality would ever come from any manufacturer and certainly not BMW. I'd love to have the exact link of the location on this BMW website.





And if we follow the link to the site that picture comes from we get this...

http://www.hpiracing.com/

...a website for R/C cars, in fact here's a direct link to the very bodyshell shown in that tiny picture.

http://www.hpi-europe.com/piw.php?lang=en&partNo=7450

For a 1/10 scale R/C car.


So now its a race car that doesn't race in a series (so how exactly is it a race car), you have yet to actually prove its existence. For example, would you care to share the links to the pictures on Motor Trend, because a quick search of the site using "BMW M5 Race" provides only links to the road car.


As for "learn the real cars out there? :rolleyes:", you may want to get to know a few of us before questioning our knowledge of all things automotive.


Regards

Scaff
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Sorry Scaff. I guess I didn't know you at the time.

Scaff
What are you on about now?
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I'm going to stop the fighting.



(Sorry for dubble podting!)
 
Sorry, once again, but I believe after I made the mistake, there is no way to delete a post.
 
The only "racing" M5 I'm familiar with (I wouldn't be surprised to hear of privatized entries in small series) is the Car and Driver M5 that competed in the 2006 One Lap of America:
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Even then, it was bone stock. According to the article that was later published in the magazine, C&D also ran a stock M5 in 2000, and a rally driver by the name of John Buffem entered a "well-prepped" M5 track car in 1992, which adds two more "racing" M5s to the list.

Speaking of Car and Driver, I highly doubt they would have chosen the car for their entry into the 2006 competition if they thought its handling was rubbish. :rolleyes:
 
I'm pretty sure I've read articles in C&D regarding the M5 and if anything, the handling is nothing close to rubbish. The car has great handling, I dont know where you read it has bad handling cause it sure wasnt C&D.
 
C&D complained about the handling of the US only M5 6-speed manual. You cannot turn stability control and traction control OFF on that car (the first and only BMW where this is the case).

Load up GT4 and try doing a clean fast lap of the Ring in an M5 with all the DSC grannies left on. It's like trying to get freaky with Gisele Bundchen through a shower curtain. Total rubbish. I'd complain too, and have.

I haven't read any SERIOUS complaints of the original 7-speed SMG model. It's heavy and undertired. But we all know that.


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Well, the good news is that (thus far) it appears that BMW has learned from the critics on the M5, and applied those lessons to the M3. Does that mean that everything will be how those of us who lived the E46 will be happy? Probably not, but closer than the current M5 and the one that had preceded it.

I'd probably bet on C/D taking an M3 for the "One Lap" once they hit the streets. We'll see what happens.
 
Well, I've given up hope for a svelte, lithe little car like the E30, or even back to what the E36 was...

Something about the shape of the door panels makes me want to place my hands on them, in a sensual manner... >.>
 
Onikaze
Well, I've given up hope for a svelte, lithe little car like the E30, or even back to what the E36 was...
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That's what the 1-series coupe is for. If they don't screw it up, of course.

Or maybe the Z2 that we all heard about a few months ago.
 
///M-Spec
C&D complained about the handling of the US only M5 6-speed manual. You cannot turn stability control and traction control OFF on that car (the first and only BMW where this is the case).
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That's right. They didn't like that one bit. It was total rubbish! :yuck:
 
Escalade_dude
Thank you Omnis!! I'm glad someone agrees with me! :)
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Um, look at the pic. It seems to have a full on road interior. Those are street headrests.

I think it would be great for BMW to make a smaller M car. M1, maybe. Something small, maybe like an S2000, or possibly something to run with the Elise.
 
Escalade_dude
That's right. They didn't like that one bit. It was total rubbish! :yuck:
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Sorry but I've read that article and to say that the didn't like it one little bit or that it was total rubbish, is pushing things more than a little too far. As M-Spec said the principal issue that had with this particular M5 was that the stability and traction control were over intrusive and could not be fully switched off; something that only applies to that particular version of the M5.

Here in Europe every M5 has traction and stability control that can be switched off fully and as M-Spec also said the US SMG model of the M5 is the same (in that it can be switched off fully). These models of the M5 have been roundly praised for there handling ability, given the weight and size of the car.

Regards

Scaff
 
philly cheese
Um, look at the pic. It seems to have a full on road interior. Those are street headrests.

I think it would be great for BMW to make a smaller M car. M1, maybe. Something small, maybe like an S2000, or possibly something to run with the Elise.
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They've already been through the M1. It was gorgeous, but they certainly don't need to ressurrect it.
 
Scaff
Sorry but I've read that article and to say that the didn't like it one little bit or that it was total rubbish, is pushing things more than a little too far. As M-Spec said the principal issue that had with this particular M5 was that the stability and traction control were over intrusive and could not be fully switched off; something that only applies to that particular version of the M5.

Here in Europe every M5 has traction and stability control that can be switched off fully and as M-Spec also said the US SMG model of the M5 is the same (in that it can be switched off fully). These models of the M5 have been roundly praised for there handling ability, given the weight and size of the car.

Regards

Scaff
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Woops! Are you sure you didn't read another artical? If not, you are probably right. I read the artical in a store. It was a long time ago. :)
 
*McLaren*
They've already been through the M1. It was gorgeous, but they certainly don't need to ressurrect it.
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I think he ment an M1 of teh 1 series , but BMW respescts that name and I think it will only come back in super M form some thing that would be very light , very powerful , and very hardcore .
 
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I think he ment an M1 of teh 1 series , but BMW respescts that name and I think it will only come back in super M form some thing that would be very light , very powerful , and very hardcore .
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I suppose, though why would you want a sport version of the 1 Series?
 
Escalade_dude
Woops! Are you sure you didn't read another artical? If not, you are probably right. I read the artical in a store. It was a long time ago. :)
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They're right. When we Americans demanded that we get a manual-option on our M5, the folks down in Bayern rushed to get one together. Then they gave us a new M5 with the old M5's transmission, and more computer overlords than the current car already had... Worse, the computers couldn't be turned off.

So basically, they did a very un-BMW thing and actually screwed something up. Go figure. Thats normally something reserved for Ford or GM...

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Good news for those of us only marginally happy on the M3 coupe!!!

LLN.com
Spy photographers have snapped a new round of photos showing the 2009 BMW M3 Sedan in testing. As previously reported, the new sedan — the first four-door M3 since the E36 — won't look like a regular 3-Series sedan. Instead, it have the same headlights, grille, and front fascia as the two-door 3-series and M3 coupe.

So far, BMW has only revealed a concept version of its 2008 M3 Coupe. BMW has not disclosed the final horsepower rating, but the M3 range is expected to have between 425 and 450 horsepower. Its engine is derived directly from the V10 used in the M5 and M6
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Hell yes! Thats what I'm talking about!

...I'd gladly take the sedan over the coupe, hands down, no questions there. If BMW wants to make a sleeper M3, they should be doing it as a sedan, not as a coupe, so this one make perfect sense. Maybe they're making up for that M5 mistake...
 
could that be a a faclift too, the car has been out since 2005 I think so it makes sense to give it a faclift in 2009
 
It could be. But the quad-pipes, M3 air-intake and fender flares make me think otherwise...
 
The sedan has a slightly melted look. I don't know why they had to make the front seem so much lower than the back.
 
YSSMAN
It could be. But the quad-pipes, M3 air-intake and fender flares make me think otherwise...
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No I know its an M3 sedan , but I think it will be released witht he sedan faclift , and not like the article says that it will use something diffrent to teh sedan , yes it will be diffrent to the current one , but I bet it will look like the faclift 4 door .
 
If they make an M1 that doesn't weigh close to 2000 Pounds, with a screaming Natural Aspirated straight 6 behind the driver, and "what the hell is that?" styling, they shouldn't do it at all.

M2 though, that I could dig.

Wish the 1 Series was just a tad lighter though.
 
YSSMAN
It could be. But the quad-pipes, M3 air-intake and fender flares make me think otherwise...
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It doesn't have the trademark vents on the sides that all M cars have. It could be an M3 sedan, but it could simply be a facelifted 3 series with an M spec kit. Theres a lot of possilities, but if that is the M3 sedan, the production car will probably have the vents.
 
That is the M3 and I bet the vents will start show as we get closer to the atual date of release , but I think they are doing a 2 in one thing releaseing faclifted sedan with the new M3 , roll on 2009
 
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