2008 ING Magyar Nagydíj

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Wow, unlucky for Massa. But at least Hekki got his first win - had quite a strong performance for the whole weekend! 👍
 
Do you race?
I don't know about that ... five different winners in as many years leads me to think otherwise.
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Oh yeah, I called that. True, I didn't pick the Kovalainen-Glock-Raikkonen combination, but I still predicted a winner who wasn't one of the Usual Supects.
 
Lol, I just laughed at when the commentator said the "horns" on the McLarens were a good luck charm. :lol: But anyways, bad luck on Massa's part. He did almost everything perfectly, and had a spectacular drive throughout the race but the engine was just a let down. 👎 Too bad Kimi had to back of right then, if not he could have challenged Timo for 2nd and would have made some points. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. A big congrats for Heikki and Timo for finishing 1st and 2nd respectively. Both of them did just about everything right and with Massa's mishap, they took advantage and really deserved those finish. 👍

Anyways, its just weird to see a few incidents where the fuel rig almost ignites when they refuel the car, and STR had it happened twice with Bourdais. :eek: That was really an exciting race, only a few overtaking done in the race, but the drama within the race really makes up for it. :D
 
Alex.
You are a member of the GTP Lucky Coin Man Appreciation Society :D

God bless Damon Hill, he needs the patience of a saint not to lamp Mr Allen.
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Haha, it was funny because he kept stopping James Allen at certain moments, such as "wait James, its not over yet" after Kimi and Fernando finished their first stops and Allen decided to go on about Lewis or something right as the Ferrari was coming up behind the Renault at turn 1.....

Hill is a good commentator, quite funny at times too, he just needs to learn the drivers and cars, lol. Its always interesting to have some insight from someone who has been out there in the cars, just a pity Hill seems to have caught the Hamilton bug a bit, I sort of prefer Brundle's less bias approach, Hill was good anyway, much better than James Allen.
Bring on the commentary team of Brundle and Hill! 💡

Anyway, I feel sorry for Massa, what an excellent start for him, the Ferrari engine blow reminds strongly of the 80s and 90s, it would be interesting if they head that way, but of course I dont wish ill luck on Massa in that respect. Id much rather Massa ahead than Hamilton although I suppose it wont shut James Allen up.

So far, a very interesting season and once again the Hungaroring continued the tradition of intriguing grid positions. I look forward to Valencia but not so much Allen-commentary.
 
It happens. Senna crashed and died and came 17th.
 
If Massa had lost his engine before he crossed the start/finish line, then Bourdais would have beaten him, but only just.
 
just saw the start from massa again..........

man,that whas just "showing the biggest balls ever"
wow,what a brilliant move...!!!!

spyrrari.
 
I think Damon hill was a good commentator considering he doesn't do it often. And anyway, James Allen made the mistake of thinking Glock pitted for a 3rd time when it said Trulli on the screen.
 
:lol: that annoyed me. 'Well we heard over his radio he wasn't going to pit again and he is....'

Also I was surprised as Damon when Kimi jumped Alonso.
 
That was a pretty interesting race. Tough break for Massa, but at least Raikkonen woke up at the end of the race.
 
If there's any worst way to luck out, well, there you have it folks...2 laps from the finish line.

But happily, a rightfully due victory for Heikki, who brought it home 1st...here's to many more, Kovi!!! 👍👍👍
 
Congrats Heikki and Glock..... two people I really didnt expect on the podium! Great to see him finally win a race... its been a long time coming. Its also good to see Toyota pulling some results after like years and years of midfield finishes.

I actually found the race boring up until the pit fire then everything else picked up especially when Massa's engine went!

Does anyone have any news about the pit refuellers, like what was the problem? Bad batch?

Robin
 
I would have assumed that the air temperature and the car's residual heat was so hot that whenever the pit refuellers didn't quite shut the flow of petrol as they were taking the hose off, it would immediately catch fire and go. Or there were some clumsy fingers and didn't quite get the hose on right.

It was quite surprising how quickly they caught fire though after only being exposed to the air for a very short period of time. Goes to show exactly how voliate they are.
 
Submerged
I would have assumed that the air temperature and the car's residual heat was so hot that whenever the pit refuellers didn't quite shut the flow of petrol as they were taking the hose off, it would immediately catch fire and go. Or there were some clumsy fingers and didn't quite get the hose on right.

It was quite surprising how quickly they caught fire though after only being exposed to the air for a very short period of time. Goes to show exactly how voliate they are.
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If you look at a F1 car you'll see that the exhaust pipes tend to be just below the fuelling cap. These exhauts get extremely hot so once some fuel drops onto it it ignites. And being racing fuel it'll give a quick, intense but relatively short burn. The theory voiced on the commentary which I think is possible is that the heat of the day caused the fuel to expand and so effected the sealing and shut off systems in the refueling rig.
 
I'm really disappointed with performance of BMW,did they just freeze development of this year car to focus on next year or did the rest of the pack catch up so quickly (especially toyota and renault).The worst thing is there are no test sessions scheduled in next 3 weeks (all my faith lays in Hinwil) so I'm concerned about their speed in next GP.
p.s.big props to polish supporters in the stands,50 000 people went there to cheer our driver?! nice..
p.p.s. congratulations for Heikki for first win and Timo for first podium finish just 2 weeks after his big crash,great driving guys!
 
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ExigeEvan
If you look at a F1 car you'll see that the exhaust pipes tend to be just below the fuelling cap. These exhauts get extremely hot so once some fuel drops onto it it ignites. And being racing fuel it'll give a quick, intense but relatively short burn. The theory voiced on the commentary which I think is possible is that the heat of the day caused the fuel to expand and so effected the sealing and shut off systems in the refueling rig.
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But still, it happens quite frequently during the race. I'm surprised that it wasn't really that hot and yet the pit lane temperature was about 80°F (where Malaysia was hotter) but I guess it just wasn't as humid as Malaysia, so it was likely the fueling rig may caught on fire when they refuel the car. But wow, a very scary moment for the pit crew. The fuel tank maker may have to improve the way the nozzle is built to make sure it doesn't happen again.....
 
Muzaffar Musa
But still, it happens quite frequently during the race. I'm surprised that it wasn't really that hot and yet the pit lane temperature was about 80°F (where Malaysia was hotter) but I guess it just wasn't as humid as Malaysia, so it was likely the fueling rig may caught on fire when they refuel the car. But wow, a very scary moment for the pit crew. The fuel tank maker may have to improve the way the nozzle is built to make sure it doesn't happen again.....
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Oh definetely, 3 relatively small events that had the ability to be much worse will definetley push the manufacturer to improve.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
That was a pretty interesting race. Tough break for Massa, but at least Raikkonen woke up at the end of the race.
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Raikkonen was stuck behind Alonso. As soon as he got in front of Alonso he was setting fastest laps. It may have been for the best that he backed off at the end, but it would have been nice to seem him try for a pass on Glock. I felt bad for Massa. Before Hamilton's flat it looked like it was going to be a close battle at the end.
 
ExigeEvan
Oh definetely, 3 relatively small events that had the ability to be much worse will definetley push the manufacturer to improve.
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True, but I kinda had a feeling that in all cases apart from the point when one team actually drenched their car in CO2 or Foam (forgot which) it was not a case of something going to go majorly wrong. My adibing memory that really sticks in my head is the shot of a car actually driving away with the fire still going and it actually going out (BMW percahnce?). It kinda made me wonder whether there was an extra value inside the tank that was only in the open position when the hose was fully connected and in the closed position as soon as the hose was disengaged, thereby preventing that fire from possibly exploding in the fuel tank. That's the only real reason I could think of that helped to prevent anything like Jos Verstrappen massive car fire in Spa way back in 1995 if I recall correctly.

Obviously I could be talking a load of bull so please correct me if I am. :)
 
peterjford
Raikkonen was stuck behind Alonso. As soon as he got in front of Alonso he was setting fastest laps. It may have been for the best that he backed off at the end, but it would have been nice to seem him try for a pass on Glock. I felt bad for Massa. Before Hamilton's flat it looked like it was going to be a close battle at the end.
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I think he could have tried harder to get past Alonso. For the next race they should fuel him lighter or set him up for a one-stopper, so he doesn't get stuck again.
 
Well no one cant get past anyone on track :( and then this track is gonna be on the calender till 2016 :(

i can only recall 1 overtaking action. Button on Barrichello, cant remember a single other one.

Was kinda shame that the overtaking Vettel went with miscommunication as kimi (i think) would have been earlier out then alonso in that pitstop as he was totally on alonso rearend when coming out.
 
FatAssBR
^Uh... Massa at the first corner of the first lap?
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that was with the start, its not a 'normal' overtake action.
You dont have the 'problems' of losing downforce as much as on racing laps.

Still great move though. :) 👍
 
GM
I think Damon hill was a good commentator considering he doesn't do it often. And anyway, James Allen made the mistake of thinking Glock pitted for a 3rd time when it said Trulli on the screen.
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Plus, when Ted Kravitz was talking to Vettel before the race started it said 'Sebastien Bourdais. Grid: 19th' on screen. :mad:
 

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