2008 Turkish GP

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Metar
Scott found a home with Stock Cars, currently racing in ARCA and Craftsman Trucks, both of which receive little coverage outside the US. To be honest, that's a name I'm looking forward to seeing on the Nationwide grid - finally a somewhat-familiar name, after Villeneuve gave up.

As for Trulli, well, that's F1. He's been in the game for a long while, he's like a newer Frentzen - probably skilled, but never in the right car. And he brought Toyota to where it is now - which isn't much. (but that's not his fault) :p
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Thanks for sharing that info, any idea on how the chap's doing?

Also, Toyota has come where Honda has come as well, nowhere :p

Is there any Japanese team that had success in F1 at all? Toyota just needs to get their hands on a good teamboss...(Now where's that guy that lead the Toyota Motorsports team at Le Mans in 1999?) :p
 
They also did very well when they were just an engine supplier powering the McLarens 20 years ago.
 
Bram Turismo
Thanks for sharing that info, any idea on how the chap's doing?
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Wikipedia:

He recorded his first career Top 10 finish in NASCAR in just his second race, when he finished tenth at Martinsville Speedway. On April 25, 2008 he won his first ARCA race at Kansas Speedway in just his fourth start. On April 26, 2008; Speed recorded a back-to-back top ten finish in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series at Kansas Speedway by finishing in eighth place in the #22 Red Bull Toyota for Bill Davis Racing.
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Doesn't sound too bad for a single-seaters driver. Better than Jaques managed, at least. :p
 
I'm not talking about their engine years, but their years as a full team, with their own chassis, engine and whatnot...Those victories do not count, and the 2006 win was not based on their performance, but simple profit from foolish other drivers with bad strategies...
 
Bram Turismo
Is there any Japanese team that had success in F1 at all? Toyota just needs to get their hands on a good teamboss...(Now where's that guy that lead the Toyota Motorsports team at Le Mans in 1999?) :p
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Blake
Honda had a couple of wins back in the 60s, as well as the famous 2006 victory.
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After Honda called it quits in 1968, there were no Japanese-based teams until Toyota came around in 2002...except for Maki:

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Maki Engineering ranks up there neatly between Life and Andrea Moda in terms of F1 success.
 
Bram Turismo
I'm not talking about their engine years, but their years as a full team, with their own chassis, engine and whatnot...Those victories do not count, and the 2006 win was not based on their performance, but simple profit from foolish other drivers with bad strategies...
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Hey, a win is a win. They obviously had enough performance to take advantage of the foolish other drivers with bad strategies. But I don't expect them to win again for a long time.
 
Bram Turismo
I'm not talking about their engine years, but their years as a full team, with their own chassis, engine and whatnot...Those victories do not count, and the 2006 win was not based on their performance, but simple profit from foolish other drivers with bad strategies...
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honda's 5 driver championships as an engine supplier doesn't count? :rolleyes:

and how are you going try and take away from honda's 06 victory when toyota and AT&T Williams has yet to win a single race
 
nissan tuner
honda's 5 driver championships as an engine supplier doesn't count? :rolleyes:

and how are you going try and take away from honda's 06 victory when toyota and AT&T Williams has yet to win a single race
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I'm not counting in Williams' success with Toyota either...And no, those titles don't count.
 
Well enough about Hondas and Toyotas already, just save it for the Monaco GP. ;) In other news, this just came in:

Istanbul Circuit says dog incident could happen again

During Sunday's GP2 race Bruno Senna hit a dog and was forced to retire due to the heavy damage. The dog was killed due to the incident and after the race many wondered why a modern track such as the one in Istanbul can not prevent dogs from entering the track. The organisers now have said though it took all possible measures to manage the problem, but can not guarantee it won't ever happen again.

The track organisers told Reuters about the incident: "We take very seriously the matter of track safety, we took all possible measures to manage the problem and we cooperated with the FIA race director throughout the grand prix.

"We regret the incident involving Bruno Senna's car and we are far from complacent about it but, with the best will in the world, it isn't possible to eradicate the problem altogether."

According to the authorities the problem is a general problem to do with the location of the track. "Unfortunately they are more noticeably prevalent at the circuit during the grand prix week, attracted we think by the various catering units that competitors bring with them. As in past years, the circuit operator took as many precautions as possible to police the 2,500,000 sqm circuit and its 8km perimeter with a team of vets on site to catch any dogs and to relocate them.

"But this is of itself a dangerous task because some of these dogs are feared to carry rabies and appropriate precautions need to be taken."
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http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/05/14/istanbul-circuit-says-dog-incident-could-happen-again/


This I got to say, is got to be one of the worst track security in F1. How do you get a dog lose on such a track? Did they even check the circuit to make sure of this? I can't really blame them really, its a big track and all, but they should have take a better precaution than that. Even if it was just a few dogs, but the safety of the spectators and the drivers are really important (not to mention the animals life!) so I'm just hoping it doesn't happen again...... 👎
 
Oh, come on. That stuff happens.

In very recent history, one could claim that a whole Formula 1 team collapsed because Anthony Davidson hit a small furry creature during the Canadian GP last year - he was on a one-stopper, running 3rd at the time, about halfway through the race. With the points from a podium and Sato's would-be-7th, who knows where Aguri would be now.

In the more distant past, drivers were killed by loose deers... So a dog in the GP2 race isn't such a big deal.
 
Can someone with competent PC skills please post a Monte Carlo GP thread? That way we may discuss Paul Ricard testing, Lewis Hamilton's diamond-encrusted helmet, etc... I'm afraid that I do not possess the talent for track maps and such,LOL.
 

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