2009 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

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Keep the ban on in-season testing, but the season is over now, and they still aren't allowed to test until the first testing session in February. Why? We have 4 months, but they can only use 1?

To save costs...like I said. It costs money to produce test chassis, parts and then ship it all and the staff to the tracks to test it.

Who might say F1 is predictable? I think some us just go with the most reasonable choice...that's all. Putting your money on Brawn for the win was one hell of a long shot...and really just showing favoritism if anything, because what did they have in their arsenal to win the race? The only way they could have possibly won would have been due to luck and their competitors dropping out like flies...which didn't happen. So your wild prediction is wrong despite what you say. And mine was to.

Funny that you presume the implication is meaning you, says a lot to me frankly.

Indeed, putting money on Brawn would have been crazy, which is why I didn't. You decided to jump on my prediction and mock it. There was no suggestion that I thought anyone else's predictions would be wrong nor that I thought I would be "more" right than anyone else. It was just a prediction, there was no inctricate reasoning behind it and I wasn't telling people they were silly for thinking Hamilton would win. You are entitled to question why I would make such a prediction but my reasoning was and is just a hunch and keeping in mind the unpredictable nature of reality.

And I admitted my prediction wasn't entirely right, no need to remind me of that.
 
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Impressive stuff by Kobayashi. That overtaking maneuver was amazing, especially considering it came from a rookie on the world champion. I find a lot of similarities between him and Sato, who in my opinion was the best Japanese driver ever.

About the discussion of the drivers for Toyota for next year, I think Kobayashi has a very good chance, especially considering he's Japanese and it would be good for Toyota to have an exciting Japanese driver for them. For the other seat, it would be nice if they could get someone like Raikkonen, but I doubt it'll happen. The only top driver that I see is still on the market would be Heidfeld. Getting Kovalainen wouldn't make sense, because he really isn't better than the current drivers.

Another thing I think is that Brawn is looking overrated for next year. I don't know why top drivers are so eager to drive for them, because for me it's clear they won't be able to keep up with this year's performance.
 
^People want to drive for Brawn for one reason:

Williams, TWR Jaguar, Benetton, Ferrari, BrawnGP - what do these all have in common?
 
I don't know which drivers are SO eager to drive for Brawn anyway? Kimi would never think about driving for them due to salary reasons (at least from the sounds of it), and it has taken a fair bit of pondering on Button's part to re-sign. Doesn't seem like they pay enough nor have the credibility to sign the biggest names yet.
 
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It's funny how much most drivers are asking to get paid for. Button for example ears 5 million pounds for the 2009 season alone, 5 million. How can they possibly not want to drive for a topteam that offers them millions of pounds in salary?!
 
Well, for a start they probably can't pay enough because they don't have huge pockets. Credibility? They are double world champions and have one of the sports greatest at the helm. (Ross Brawn, in case you needed to ask)

That's quite a low salary for an F1 driver, Bram.
 
Well, for a start they probably can't pay enough because they don't have huge pockets.

Obviously...that's one of the reasons why the big name drivers don't see Brawn as being their best option...as I said.

Credibility? They are double world champions and have one of the sports greatest at the helm. (Ross Brawn, in case you needed to ask)

They've been in the sport for 1 year now...how much credibility could they possibly have? It's naive to think that just because they got off on there best foot, taking advantage of the DD earlier in the season that they will automatically be a contender next year, especially when you consider some aspects going into next year.

Like Brawn not being able to develop their 2010 chassis for more than twice the time as their competitors, as they did with the BGP001. They have a much smaller budget than the bigger teams, which was evident by their lack of development this season). And then you have the fact that the big names (Ferrari and Macca) have been hard at work on their 2010 chassis, while Brawn has been left fighting the battle with RBR this season. Which is pretty much the reversal from last year, where Ferrari and Macca fought till the very end which dramatically affected their performance this year.

This year saw the biggest changes to F1 regulations in several decades. Brawn developed the car for what was it? Nearly 15 months? I think most of the big name drivers and critics are really waiting to see what happens next year with Brawn...as this season was a bit silly to say the least.


That's quite a low salary for an F1 driver, Bram.

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Well, to explain my previous post, you have Button and Rosberg who are some of the best on the grid who are probably going to Brawn. Sure they got the championship, but if you see their performance throughout the season, it went from a car that was almost as superior as the 92 Williams in the beginning of the season, to a team that is currently the third best. On the other hand you have teams like Toyota and Renault that surely have the resources and the skills to made a great car for next year. So why is everybody so willing to drive for Brawn and not for Toyota, for example?

By the way Ardius, I really couldn't figure out what you said. I really don't see anything Brawn and Jaguar have in common.
 
Well, to explain my previous post, you have Button and Rosberg who are some of the best on the grid who are probably going to Brawn. Sure they got the championship, but if you see their performance throughout the season, it went from a car that was almost as superior as the 92 Williams in the beginning of the season, to a team that is currently the third best. On the other hand you have teams like Toyota and Renault that surely have the resources and the skills to made a great car for next year. So why is everybody so willing to drive for Brawn and not for Toyota, for example?

I still don't know who you are speaking that has been so "willing" to drive for Brawn? Most of the crap is just rumors anyways. And you really can't blame a driver for choosing Brawn over Renault, and to a lesser extent Toyota, given the results throughout this year.

Button and Rosberg are very good, but I would say the two top teams (Mclaren and Ferrari) seats are pretty much already taken by the top drivers, with the exception of the 2nd Mclaren seat...which we have no clue who is going to fill...still could be Rosberg possibly.

I would say going to Renault would be a far worse choice (as Kubica is doing) than going to Brawn, given their current situation and complete lack competitiveness in the past 2-3 years. All they've done is gone downhill since 06. Brawn still looks very solid next year, especially if they get some share from MB as well.
 
Honda spent all their time developing this car, does Brawn have anything ready for 2010 yet? If not, i'd want to get out if that car if I were Button.
 
Honda spent all their time developing this car, does Brawn have anything ready for 2010 yet? If not, i'd want to get out if that car if I were Button.

Why? It doesn't mean that if you don't have a headstart, you don't stand any chance. Look at how early BMW started on their KERS system, and how much they thought it would help them bring the battle to Ferrari and Mclaren. Then look at the position BMW ended the season in.
 
I have to say, Abu Dhabi really grew on me. Especially in the first sector, watching the cars take the hill through the second and third turns with the weaving across to get all the apexes was utterly insane.
Honda spent all their time developing this car, does Brawn have anything ready for 2010 yet? If not, i'd want to get out if that car if I were Button.
Ross Brawn aid they've been working on it since May. Apparently the BGP-002 will look more like the Red Bull than the team's current car.
 
Ross Brawn aid they've been working on it since May. Apparently the BGP-002 will look more like the Red Bull than the team's current car.

Well, so did the other teams. The difference is that the other teams have much more personnel and money to invest. Unless Brawn was so confident they would get the title that they stopped developing this year's car and began work on next year's.
 
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Well, so did the other teams. The difference is that the other teams have much more personnel and money to invest. Unless Brawn was so confident they would get the title that they stopped developing this year's car and began work on next year's.
Once Brawn signed a title sponsor - and they're being very mum about it (which I like; taking us by surprise has become something of a Brawn team trademark) - they had backing. And if Mercedes are investing in them, they'll be set for five years.

And it's not that difficult to start developing a car. All it really costs you is the salary of your aerodynamics department. They don't just start building a car: they begin by going through all the drawing and conceptual phases; building the car is the last thing that happens. If Brawn have gotten their hands on some CFD software and can address some of the problems with this year's car - cente of gravity was too high, they cut six inches out of the back end, etc. - they'll have a very strong platform to begin with. Once they got the money from sponsors and/or Mercedes, they could start building scale models of the car. They won't actually have a chassis until later in the year at the earliest, but it's well within the realms of possibility that they could start developing in May and have a compettivie car for 2010 with a limited budget.
 
I'd hope they'd gotten their hands on some CFD software by now :lol: Even I have that and who am I? :lol:

I agree with most everything you said though.
 
No, it makes perfect sense, becuase it has saved costs. Unlimited testing like in the old days is just not sensible today.
Its also made the racing more unpredictable, increased the pressure on teams and therefore increased the excitement.

The ban on testing is the best thing to ever happen to Formula One.

Teams like Ferrari and McLaren no longer pull far away from the pack from the start of the season... they actually have to work for their wins.

Even with McLaren catching up late in the season, you see them being pushed hard by Red Bull and Brawn to the end.

And with over half the field separated by just a second in qualifying on most tracks... F1 is more competitive than ever before.

Now all we've got to do is stop them from implementing the medal system, and F1 will be perfect.
 
I agree, the ban on in season testing was only good for the sport. With the exception of when a new driver comes along, they're basically like a fish out of water unfortunately.

But F1 is still far from perfect IMO. There needs to be more technological advancements in the sport...instead of freezing everything and taking away the technological side that makes Formula 1, Formula 1. Also more diversity to derive at the same formula would make things much more interesting. Like having 4wd/2wd option, turbo/na option, etc. A small displacement turbo engine should have already been re-introduced by now. Instead the FIA absurdly introduced the 2.4 liter V8's and KERS...which has only cost the teams money and has done very little for the sport or for the carry over of technology into road going cars 👎
 
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But F1 is still far from perfect IMO. There needs to be more technological advancements in the sport...instead of freezing everything and taking away the technological side that makes Formula 1, Formula 1. Also more diversity to derive at the same formula would make things much more interesting in a lot of aspects. Like having 4wd/2wd option, turbo/na option, etc.
Do you want technical advancements or competitive driving? Back duing the days of the turbo-powered cars, the grid used to be covered by up to ten seconds. Now there's less than a one-second spread from first down past tenth.

They tried that innovation with KERS. It failed, chiefly because only two teams used it. I've heard that despite the device being dropped for 2010, the FIA are pushing for a mandatory, standardised KERS unit for 2011.
 
Do you want technical advancements or competitive driving? Back duing the days of the turbo-powered cars, the grid used to be covered by up to ten seconds. Now there's less than a one-second spread from first down past tenth.

I like a mix of both. Right now there is too little emphasis on advancing the technology side though, especially to be called Formula 1 (the pinnacle of technology). At least IMO. LMP cars are really closing in on the performance of Formula 1 cars while still providing more competitive racing. They also have concentrated (much more than F1) on advancing the technology side (Diesel, biofuel, etc.) and bringing such ingenuity to street cars in the past few years.

If I want to watch a competitive race I'd rather watch MotoGP any day of the week 👍 As four wheeled, winged cars will never make as good of a show in terms of racing. Computer analysis and design software that is involved in motorsports today has more than dramatically helped to make racing and design a much more level playing field ...things were much different in that respect when we saw 10 seconds spreads over the entire field.


They tried that innovation with KERS. It failed, chiefly because only two teams used it. I've heard that despite the device being dropped for 2010, the FIA are pushing for a mandatory, standardised KERS unit for 2011.

KERS was a huge waste of money regardless if all the teams were to use it or not. The development cost were astronomical for what was to be gained. The same concept (push to pass) could have been implemented on a turbo car by raising the peak boost value for a given amount of time per lap. In the age of the FIA wanting to cost cut and do all their nonsense...KERS was absolutely laughable.

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KERS was a huge waste of money regardless if all the teams were to use it or not. The development cost were astronomical for what was to be gained. The same concept (push to pass) could have been implemented on a turbo car by raising the peak boost value for a given amount of time per lap. In the age of the FIA wanting to cost cut and do all their nonsense...KERS was absolutely laughable.

I'm sure they said the same thing about the combustion engine when it was first invented. Spend all this money on something that doesn't do anything better then what a horse could do at the time. The thing is its only a true waste of money when you stop developing it. The cost of anything is high when it is first being developed but over time as the technology develops it becomes a lot cheaper to produce and is improved upon in design to be more efficient and more powerful. And that was something that could have been used on your everyday car. Each time you come to a stop at the stop light that energy you just stored can be used for the acceleration away from the light and help with your MPG (or KPG for you guys across the pond).


But it was a great race and big congrats to Vettle for finishing the year on a high point. And it looks like out of all the rookies this year Kobayashi was the best one out of them all. I think he was the only one to score points (might be wrong on this)
 
I'm sure they said the same thing about the combustion engine when it was first invented. Spend all this money on something that doesn't do anything better then what a horse could do at the time. The thing is its only a true waste of money when you stop developing it. The cost of anything is high when it is first being developed but over time as the technology develops it becomes a lot cheaper to produce and is improved upon in design to be more efficient and more powerful. And that was something that could have been used on your everyday car. Each time you come to a stop at the stop light that energy you just stored can be used for the acceleration away from the light and help with your MPG (or KPG for you guys across the pond).

Good point, and I agree. But as I mentioned, introducing KERS when they were dramatically looking to cut cost in all other areas was absolute blasphemy looking back at things. A small displacement forced induction motor should have been re-introduced to the sport far before KERS was. High revving, large bore, fuel hog NA motors have been hanging around in the sport for far too long.
 
I'm just glad it has gone next year but the FIA say it is there if you want to use it.

Who in the world is going to use it? What sort of advantage is it going to give anyone apart from a power advantage?

But here is a question I would like to pose, from a neutral POV:

Would Raikonnen have won in Belgium without his KERS? Would Hamilton have won in Hungary and Singapore without his KERS?

Personally, I don't think so and it might have been so much different
 
Excellent race Vettel! Too bad for Hamilton...

Here's to another unpredictable season in 2010. Hopefully Ferrari go the right direction and find their championship-winning ways again. Although I doubt that will happen with Alonso...
 
I'm just glad it has gone next year but the FIA say it is there if you want to use it.

Who in the world is going to use it? What sort of advantage is it going to give anyone apart from a power advantage?

But here is a question I would like to pose, from a neutral POV:

Would Raikonnen have won in Belgium without his KERS? Would Hamilton have won in Hungary and Singapore without his KERS?

Personally, I don't think so and it might have been so much different

Has the FIA said that teams can still use KERS if they want to?

Unlimited time, I hope? If so, the advantages should outweigh most of the disadvantages... a little less cornering ability versus a tremendous straight-line advantage is something that all teams will want... it's much harder to overtake if you can't make the overtake stick on the corner exit... and vice versus... it's much easier to overtake if you have a power advantage on the corner exit and can carve a creative not-so-fast line around your lower-powered opponent.

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Turbos would be fun... variable geometry ones, especially so. By limiting displacement, air restrictor size and intake tract design, you can have a relatively tight field with the same power all throughout... force teams to improve power by focusing on variable geometry systems to extract as much midrange power as they can from the turbos. It would also lend to a greater element of risk... with overboost settings aiding overtaking at the risk of blowing up an engine that's meant to last for four races.

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Note on LeMans... the advances in diesel aren't because LeMans allowed them... rather... the loopholes in existing LeMans regulations, which have still not been altered, allow diesels to be bigger, with bigger restrictors and more sophisticated turbos. There's little incentive for the rule-making body to change these rules, since having diesels on the podium is good for "green" PR and for exposure of the sport in general.
 
I have to say, Abu Dhabi really grew on me.
👍 I was mighty impressed by the whole thing, alot more so than I was expecting after having watched those YouTube videos. Granted, with that amount of money spent on it, it ought to be damn impressive - but it was much better than I had thought it was going to be, and really raises the standard by which all other F1 tracks will be measured against...
 
But here is a question I would like to pose, from a neutral POV:

Would Raikonnen have won in Belgium without his KERS? Would Hamilton have won in Hungary and Singapore without his KERS?

Personally, I don't think so and it might have been so much different

That's hard to answer because both their packages had been developed around KERS from the get go, and they both wasted a ton of money and R&D time getting the crap to work during the off season. They obviously sacrificed many design elements to get the KERS to work and fit properly within the car, so it's a bit hard to say how well they would have done with a non-KERS designed car.

For Ferrari and Maclaren, both must have realized that taking the KERS out of their compromised chassis design would not have been worth it anyway....as they still had fundamental design issues which the KER's helped to cover up.
 
Jenson, Seb and Mark should be together in the press conference more often. There's lots of text, and you can gloss over a lot of the normal press conference stuff, but Mark and Seb ribbing Jenson about getting married is brilliant. It gets better towards the end:

Autosport
Post-race press conference - Abu Dhabi

Sunday, November 1st 2009, 17:39 GMT

TV UNILATERALS

Q. Sebastian, you took the fight to Lewis Hamilton in the early stages. You managed to get ahead of him. It was another powerful performance today.

Sebastian VETTEL: Yeah, it was. A fantastic race. First of all the start and we had a very good launch. Obviously not good enough to out-accelerate Lewis, but I was very close. I was surprised. Then going on the long back straight he pushed a button and that's it, he disappeared in the distance. But I was able to stay close enough. We knew that we were a little bit heavier, so the key was to catch up, especially the last sector where the car was a dream today. I was always catching him up quite a lot and I think that was the secret, to stay with him, then with the pit stops and a lot of pressure entering the pit lane, I nearly went a bit wide at the entrance.

Then that scary exit through the tunnel but on the limit and enough to get past him. Unfortunately, he then had to retire but up to that point it was a fantastic race. After that I had a little bit of a cushion to Mark and Jenson behind and I was able to pace myself a bit but until the end the car was fantastic and was working brilliantly on both tyres, both compounds. I think the prime was the favoured tyre today but also on the option towards the end it was a pleasure this evening to sit in the car. To sum up the season, it is up and down. I think the second half we have been very strong with four one-two finishes for Red Bull Racing, so congratulations to the team. They have been pushing, working a lot back in the factory, and we can see that the car is getting quicker. It is a shame now that the season ends but it is a perfect day to finish the season on a high.

Q. Mark, fantastic fight with Jenson in the closing stages. Tell us all about it.

Mark WEBBER: Well, first of all from the start I made a pretty good launch and had a bit of a look on the outside of Seb but the main game was really trying to get back on the inside and getting a clean exit as I knew it was a long run down to turn five. I got hit quite hard in the left rear at the first corner and was worried about a puncture but the team kept telling me the tyre had enough pressure, so I was quite relieved I didn't have a puncture. It looked like Lewis was struggling a little bit in the first few laps, so both of us were able to sit a little bit closer than we expected. Then it started to stabilise and I was pretty happy on the primes. Seb was just that little bit quicker today on both stints, all three stints, especially the last one. I had not much of a feeling on the option and it was the same for me on Friday. I was quite slow on that tyre, so I preferred the stability of the prime.

I thought at the end we had a bit of a short fuel, so fortunately JB could do some good laps on the overlap and close the gap down on me. I thought 'yeah, this is going to be quite tight at the end.' I just had to make sure I was accurate with my braking points. We know he had a slight top speed advantage but not much and it is a credit to how he has driven all year. We had a good clean fight, on the limit, but I just want to congratulate the team for their patience with me at the start of the year coming back from what happened. It has been very enjoyable driving with Sebastian this year. Renault have given us a fantastic engine and overall Red Bull can be incredibly proud for what they achieved. We have had 16 podiums together, so it is good.

Q. Jenson, that battle from your perspective and also a battle again with Kamui Kobayashi.

Jenson BUTTON: It was a fun race. For me the prime tyre was not my favourite tyre in the race and I had a lot of understeer in the car. But when Kobayashi was on a one-stopper I came out and the first big stop is turn eight and when you have got that much fuel on board it is always very difficult to judge the braking point. I slightly outbraked myself and locked the rears and the fronts and ran a bit wide and he got past. In reality it didn't make a difference to my race as he was quicker than me at that point. Then I was struggling a little bit with the prime tyre but I tried to make the best out of it. After the second stop I found I had very good grip with the option tyre. I got back the front issues I had with the prime and had very good initial turn in which meant I could carry a lot of speed through. That's why I was able to close down Mark. The last couple of laps were a lot of fun.

I couldn't make the move stick. I was very excited by the battle and I thought I could pull it off but Mark is always a very difficult person to overtake. We were clean but on the edge, so it was perfect. Disappointed not to get that second place but I really enjoyed the fight today and today for me has been a bonus after winning the championship in Brazil. I have really enjoyed driving this weekend a car that has been very competitive, so I need to thank everyone at Brawn and Mercedes Benz for all their hard work. After Brazil it would have been easy to say ‘right, let's just enjoy ourselves and not concentrate on Abu Dhabi' but we did and we have come away with a podium which is a nice way to end the year and everyone should be very proud of themselves for what we have achieved. But lastly I would like to say congratulations to Seb. He did a sterling job today. They had the legs on us and we just couldn't challenge them which is a pity but all round I think the first Abu Dhabi Grand Prix was a good one and I am looking forward to coming back.

Q. Sebastian, Red Bull has won the last three races of the season, so let's look forward a little bit. What does that say about where you are going to be going into next season.

SV: It would be very good to continue like that. Now we will face a long winter, especially for all of us drivers, a long break without any testing. Back in England, back in the factory, the guys are pushing very hard. The cars do not change that much next year. The biggest change is that you are not allowed to refuel. But we will see. It is a bit unknown. I think this season was very special. I remember a couple of years back these two were driving and I was watching and it was pretty much set after the first couple of races who was going to win each race. Fair enough there were only two teams. This year it was totally different, very exciting and a lot of overtaking. Different teams on top, so I think a special season all around and hopefully the next one will be as exciting as this one, even a bit more, we will see. Definitely looking forward. I think to sum it up we had a very good season, a lot of positive things, but also some things we probably did wrong. But it is not a shame. We just need to know and understand why that happened and we should come back stronger next year.

Q. Mark, Red Bull a top team. Are you here to stay?

MW: Yes, absolutely. We have got an incredible team back at the factory. We know that we have got under Adrian Newey someone that with him leading these type of regulation changes, particularly with what we had at the start of this year, it was clear as soon as we saw the car that it was going to be a bit of a weapon. Unfortunately in a way Brawn got the start with the double diffuser and things like that but in the end our team responded well with great character and next year there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for us not to be starting at the front again. I would much, much prefer to be in our position than quite a few other teams but we can never get too complacent. This is Formula One and things can change quickly but we are positive about next year, no question about it.

Q. Jenson, no win to round off the season but obviously an upbeat ending for you.

JB: For sure. It is always nice to end on a high but it is the same for everyone out there. It is a very competitive field. It is not just one team at the front. All season it has been up and down for us and for these guys and also for McLaren and the Ferraris. It is a very competitive and challenging season for us all, so for all three of us to be up on the podium at the last race is very enjoyable and it is a great way to round out the year. Now I am going to enjoy myself and celebrate what I have achieved this season.

SV: I hear you are getting married.

JB: Are you proposing?

SV: I heard you will get married.

JB: You know, they write great things in the press. Thank you for that one Seb, but I am going to enjoy this as we often look too far into the future and I want to just enjoy this moment and then I will look to the future after that.

Q. Sebastian, you are the first winner of the first day-night race in Abu Dhabi. Sum up the weekend for you.

SV: Unbelievable. We came here and we tried to prepare as much as possible, looking at the lay-out, doing some laps in the simulator. But driving the first couple of laps it was extremely slippery. It is a new track but it has rubbered in perfectly well. Really enjoyable all race. It is a challenging circuit. Every lap you need to focus and keep up the concentration. It is pretty easy to do a mistake and it can cost a lot of time. There are some corners that are quite tricky and they are made to lead you into mistakes, so you really need to be careful but all in all, starting at day, finishing at night is special. We have a dark tear-off and the moment you rip it off it is like someone has switched on the light, so it is quite unique. All in all a great place. Amazing what they have done here in that short period of time, so winning the race, one-two for Red Bull Racing, I think it cannot be much better.

PRESS CONFERENCE

Q. Sebastian, this gives you an excellent position with second in the championship. What are your feelings about that?

SV: I am very proud. First of all I think there was a misunderstanding in Brazil and didn't have the chance: so congratulations to Jenson, to Brawn. I think they truly deserve it. Over the season they did the better job. But after Brazil coming here we knew that we had a very, very strong package and the priority for myself was to secure second in the drivers' championship and we succeeded. To do it with the victory is the best possible result. I am very, very happy. It was a fantastic race. It was a good start but not enough to catch Lewis but good enough to stay close. When we went on the back straight he pushed the button and disappeared. It was quite shocking to see how much it is worth, but we were a little bit heavier but still able to go his pace, stay with him. It is not easy when you follow another car. Even though you are a couple of seconds behind you still feel it is not as if you are on your own in clean air.

But that was the key, pushing very hard and then obviously when I had the two overlaps on him it was quite exciting to leave the pits through the tunnel. It was very slippery and on new tyres you have silicon on the surface and it takes a little while. You go through the tunnel and it is very easy to make a mistake. Knowing I am fighting for the lead I knew I had to push. It was enough to get him. Unfortunately he then had to retire. I heard he had a braking problem, but up to that point I enjoyed it very much. It was a nice fight even though it wasn't wheel-to-wheel but both of us were pushing very hard. After that I had a bit more of a cushion and was able to set my pace according to the pace of the guys behind, so all in all the car was fantastic, both compounds worked surprisingly well. I think the majority favoured the prime, so did we, but even on the option the last stint was great and to win here I am very proud. Starting the race at day time and finishing at night is very special. Great circuit. A great job they did here. Now I think I have said enough.

Q. Mark, tremendous amount of pressure at the end; what was the circuit like to race on, especially as you were having to defend. We also saw you make a little mistake and go off the circuit; how difficult was it to race on?

MW: Well, it was pretty dusty off-line, not massively but a little bit dirty. I got a little bit hot into turn one on one of the laps. Once you get on the Astroturf you just have to open the steering and get behind the kerb. And then at the end, fighting with Jenson, I knew that the two big stops were key to the lap - obviously he wasn't going to do much anywhere else but Jenson's form in overtaking this year has been pretty good, so I knew I had to be perfect with my braking points and do the best I could with the last few laps. I turned out to be OK.

My last stint clearly wasn't one of my best this year in terms of I didn't have a great feeling on the option and that made it a bit more difficult, a few more grey hairs for everyone, but the option was difficult for me on Friday as well, so in the end, second place was as good as I was ever going to get today. Congratulations to Sebastian on the win, he's had the measure of me in the last sector probably most of the weekend, so I presumed it to be the same again in the race. We did the best job as we could as a team, capitalised on other people's lack of preparation and we delivered a one-two which is exactly what we came here to achieve. As I said before, I think that's 16 podiums for the team and that's something that everyone can be extremely happy about. I'm certainly happy, obviously, off the back of my best season ever. Of course, I would have liked to have had some more points here and there but it could have been a hell of a lot worse for me, so I will take this season, let me tell you.

Q. Jenson, for you, interesting that you mentioned that the option was the better tyre. Do you think that if you did two stints on the option you might have been closer to Red Bull?

JB: Yeah, for sure but we didn't expect that to be the case. All weekend we've been running through our practices thinking that the prime was the better tyre. We've been using the prime like the option: for example, saving it for the end of practice two and practice three, so we could get a feel for it for qualifying. It was the best tyre for qualifying but in the race I was really struggling for a balance on the harder tyre. I had a lot of understeer in the car and the colder the circuit temperature got, the more difficult it was for me to get heat into the fronts. So I was suffering with that, especially in the second stint and I don't know if you could notice, but Rubens was quite close behind me at the start of the second stint, he was sitting right on my tail, but I was able to put a little bit of a gap on him before the second stop, and then when we put the soft tyre on, the car was transformed, it felt great. The lap times were reasonably good and I was able to pull Mark in.

The big issue for me on the hard tyres was understeer, so putting the option on... suddenly I had this great front end that I could just carry so much more speed into the corners. I don't know if you saw on TV, but it was a little bit loose on exit but that's the way you have to drive the car round here. It was a great race, I really enjoyed it and as I said in the unilateral, this race is a bonus to me, because I got the championship in Brazil, so I came here to enjoy myself and that's exactly what I did. Qualifying wasn't perfect but the race was pretty much as good as we could have expected, I think. I had a good tussle with Mark on the last lap, a fair fight but obviously very close and enjoyed it a lot. I didn't make that move stick but I had a lot of fun. So I'm a little bit disappointed not to be second but I'm on the podium at the last race of the year, a year that's been exceptional and I'm very happy with what's happened this season and the way the team has performed. Probably when it's been toughest, I respect the team for the effort that they've put in then, so they should all be very proud of themselves and that's Brawn GP and Mercedes-Benz for what they've achieved. At the moment, I'm just going to enjoy this, this is big and I'm not going to concentrate on next year, I'm going to relax and enjoy this moment.

QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR

Q. (Frederic Ferret – L'Equipe) Sebastian, now that the season is over, do you have any regrets from the previous Grands Prix?

SV: No. We can't change yesterday, we can change tomorrow. The key now is obviously, looking back, five races where we didn't finish. Sometimes we should have brought some points back home and we didn't, so we need to understand why that was and as I say, change tomorrow, obviously learn, learn a lesson and try to come back stronger for next year. Overall, I think the circumstances sometimes weren't easy to accept. Sometimes that happens, sometimes it's just not supposed to be. Sometimes little mistakes happen from whoever's side. I'm not here to blame anyone in particular. Nevertheless, I think it was a very, very strong season. If anything, I think Mark and myself and the whole team got very, very strong towards the end, we have won the last three races as a team. I think we have learned already, but there is still a lot we can improve for the future, and hopefully we will do so and come back stronger next year.

Q. (Michael Schmidt – Auto, Motor und Sport) Mark, you struggled on the options at the end; was it because you had a busy out lap where you had overstressed the tyre or what could have been the reason?

MW: Not really. I think the movement of the tyre was the same on Friday for me. I didn't really feel the tyre that well. It was just not as stable as the prime and I felt that immediately on Friday and I was hoping that it would be a lot better with a rubbered-in circuit but I couldn't commit. It was half a tenth every corner, one tenth every corner and it adds up to be a lot, compared to the prime. And then, when you're getting caught you obviously have to really make sure that you're not making any mistakes to give him even more of a chance to pounce, so I had to then go into a bit more of a conservative mode and make sure that I didn't give it too easily. He had to make sure he worked for it. That's what happened in the last 15 laps.

Q. (Anne Giuntini – L'Equipe) To all three of you: considering there is a long break before February, I suppose you won't be on holiday all the time. What is your working programme?

SV: Jenson's getting married, we heard. So he's busy.

MW: And we're all invited as well.

SV: Yeah, everyone.

JB: Next question.

MW: But Japan's a long way.

SV: Obviously I have a pretty stressful week, following up, stress and fun at the same time. We are going to Beijing, so I am looking forward to that. I'm trying to kick his (Jenson's) arse. And after that, some things to do back in Germany, yeah, and at the end of the month we will have a big party back in Milton Keynes, with all the team, so I'm looking forward to that.

So November is a bit the time probably to be a bit lazy, but back in December and January obviously trying to focus on next year, on the new car. As I said, we will have time and meetings to discuss and obviously analyse what we can do better in the future and then we put our focus on next season. Obviously it's a long, long time without any testing, any driving for us, so I reckon I will do some karting, that's for sure, even though it's cold.

MW: Yeah, similar to Sebastian. Next week is very busy. I'm going to Austria tomorrow, doing some work over there for Red Bull and then also some stuff for Renault next Thursday, so the next few weeks I've got some PR work which we've put on the backburner during the season, so a few photoshoots here and there. Then I'm potentially going to drive the GP3 car, the new category car, do a bit in that, to see how that's going along. It's a very exciting championship next year which Christian (Horner) and I are involved in, so I might do a little bit of driving in that, but not much, just to get a little bit of press and a little bit of feeling for how it is.

And then I think the third week of November I'm going to open my leg up again and get a bit more metal out, and then that's the end of that problem, so it will be a few weeks relaxing after that and then I go to Australia for Christmas, a few barbecues on the beach and go to the cricket as well, which is 100,000 Australians at the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground) which is a big highlight at the Boxing Day test match, so I've got a few good things to look forward to and then in January, come back to a European winter which is always a test, but anyway, we will do that and get ready for February.

JB: Wow, that's a lot.

SV: Wait until you start…

JB: I have got nothing planned this winter. I'm going to the RoC (Race of Champions) tomorrow which takes place Tuesday, Wednesday. If you're interested, head down to the Bird's Nest in Beijing. The only thing is that I am going to go and enjoy myself with the team tonight, so we will see how I perform on Tuesday and Wednesday. But I'm looking forward to that, it's always good fun. And then I'm heading to Japan to spend some time there with my girlfriend and then I will have a few more days off and then sort myself out and start thinking about next year. It's amazing how early it starts, 2010 comes up on you in a flash. I've got to sort myself out and focus on that. I'm looking forward to the new challenge, for sure, but it can wait a couple of weeks. Oh, I've got my 30th birthday in January as well. Thirty! Imagine that, Sebastian.

SV: It's a long way to go.

JB: Trust me, it goes by very quickly.

Q. (Chris Lines – Associated Press) Guys, you sit up there as two representatives of the two most dominant teams this season. If we go back a year ago, it was Ferrari and McLaren and they were nowhere in the early part of this year. How confident are you guys that you will be able to carry this form into next season and not pay a price for going all the way through developing the car?

SV: Well, I think we are a team, we are professional. You might read here and there that other teams stopped developing for this year, looking ahead to next year, but as I said earlier on, I think the regulations aren't changing too much. Obviously the biggest change is no refuelling but other than that the cars will remain similar, similar shapes. I think the people know what they are doing back in Milton Keynes. Obviously this year was a great chance for us and as Mark said, we were able to build quite a weapon. So I'm very confident. I think we can only get stronger.

Obviously it was the first time that we were in that position for us, Mark, myself and the team that we were in that position and I think we handled it quite well. We made some mistakes here and there but that's what happens. We are not the only ones who made these mistakes and if you are fighting and trying to push and trying to get the last bit out of yourself, out of the team, out of the car, then sometimes you might step over the limit. I think it's totally natural to go through that progress, so we have definitely learned a lot and the important thing is, as I've said before, to do it much better next year.

JB: Ferrari and McLaren are going to be competitive next season. They have the resources, they have the expertise, they have competitive drivers. For sure they are going to be quick. They've had a different approach over the last few races. If you look at Ferrari, they've said that they've had no development which is unusual to hear that, as there's not much that changes for next season. But it seems that McLaren have thrown everything at the car and have been very competitive over the last couple of races. So going into next year, yeah, they're going to be quicker compared to the start of this season but I don't think they're suddenly going to be stronger than Red Bull and Brawn. I think there's going to be a big battle at the front which is going to be a new thing for all of us, because having four teams fighting it out at the front, that hasn't happened – could you just keep… ‘scuse me, I'm just trying to talk – you might want to listen to this.

MW: We're just talking about your wedding day, mate. We're just trying to clear our schedules.

JB: But with four teams at the front, eight drivers fighting out for wins, I think that's exciting, so, yeah.

Q. (Bob McKenzie – The Daily Express) What's the date for the wedding, Jenson?

JB: It's my birthday, did you say? By the way, I'm looking forward to my present, thank you very much, Bob. What did you call me before?

BMcK: The World Champion?

JB: That's the one, thank you. I'm not getting married this year.

SV: Why not? You don't love her?

MW: Clear up January, clear it up.

JB: I think some things need to be kept private in your life and that's one of them. Thank you very much.
 
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