2010 Formula 1 Monaco Grand Prix

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A lot of things can happen between now and the end of the season.

Alonso's overtakes out of the tunnel are classic stuff... Partly due to his experience, partly due to the fact that the Ferrari is probably a whole lot more stable than the backmarkers under braking down that bumpy drop.

Hahaha... Schumacher gets 6th... appears they've decided to award it to him. :lol: Bet Alonso will be upset about that.
 
I've still got coverage, Brilliant win for the Bull, bring on next weekend!
 
orimarc
Aaaaand Schumi makes a newbie mistake and overtakes before crossing the finish line. Damn. One of the best Monaco GPs ever? There was crashes, safety cars, Alonso overtaking four times in the same corner, Barrichello throwing the steering wheel...

Who says that Monaco GP is boring?

Also, Webber is gonna end winning the championship at this rate.

PD: AFAIK, you can't overtake until you cross the finish line except for mechanical failure. So yeah, Schumi's gonna have for dinner a penalty with potatoes.
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Schumachers overtake seemed to be ok. Its not the start finish line you have to cross before overtaking, its the white line before the pit lane entrance (the safety car line) and Alonso crossed that before Schumacher
 
Great US loses out the post race stuff for NASCAR race day coverage. Great drive by the red bulls and im sure that Ferrari will protest Michael and get the spot back.
 
Schumi passed the overtaking line (which is a new reg since the start of the season, according to Legard) so I don't see why he shouldn't get 6th.
 
Congrats to Webber, too bad Kubica overslept at the start :grumpy: nicely done Shumi on the last turn :)
 
Whow what a race... Congratulation to Mark Webber for the victory, 2nd place Sebastien Vettel and 3rd place Robert Kubica who charged throughoput the race. Not to forget Fernando Alonso from 24th to 7th.

Quite a dissapointing race for the Saubers, Lotuses and some others. The last laps incident of Trulli and Chandok was crazy. Lucky they were owkey but whose fault?? I don't know. A couple of other bad incidents but that's part of motorsports. The last move of the race, Michael and Fernando was hmmmm... :p
 
Watching those replays, Webber is very lucky he didn't collect Trulli and Chandok in that late accident, as they were right in front of him... but as that's such a slow corner, maybe it wasn't as close as it looks.

There's still debate about Barrichelo's wheel toss and Schumacher's overtake... but apparently, the overtake is legal.

The Trulli Chandok incident seems Trulli's fault. Chandok left some space on the inside, but not that much. Trulli tried to squeeze is car into a crack half its width.
 
I heard the guys talking about HRT possibly being turned into a German Formula 1 team, with some backing from Audi or Volkswagen, which would be awesome, since it would really give them a huge boost. Also, they are going to sign a wind tunnel deal in the next few weeks using Toyota's old F1 facilities, so they can actually get some good work done on the car.


Good win from Webber, he drove an absolutely perfect race!!!!! Also, Alonso and Ferrari picked a brilliant strategy, so good work for them as well.
 
Wait, Schumi overtakes Alonso? I missed that.
On the last lap, I guess? That's weird, because it was full course yellow at that time, strange the German coverage didn't catch it either (or I just missed it).

However, brilliant drive from Webber and I knew Alonso would make his way thru the field, so ... 👍
 
Lotrzyna
Congrats to Webber, too bad Kubica overslept at the start :grumpy: nicely done Shumi on the last turn :)
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KUbica did not overslept. Webber started too slow, so Kubica had to slow down and let Vettel get past him. Luckily he managed to maintain 3rd position in 1st corner.

After all it was a very good race for Robert.
 
Schumacher's pass was absolutely fine - he passed after the final Safety Car line, so the circuit wasn't covered by the Safety Car or yellows. Alonso just fell asleep and, once again (but only if it's okay by Anghammarad), I find it funny.

What on Earth was Trulli doing though? He drove over Chandhok's head.

PJ-FFL
For anyone who is interested, here is Webber's pole lap, the second fastest lap ever at Monaco, to Raikkonen's Q2 time in 2006.
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Now, I might not be any good at maths, but:

1. Raikkonen - 1'13.532 (Q2, 2006)
2. Alonso - 1'13.622 (Q2, 2006)
3. Raikkonen - 1'13.644 (Q1, 2005)
4. Fisichella - 1'13.647 (Q2, 2006)
5. Coulthard - 1'13.687 (Q2, 2006)
6. Webber - 1'13.728 (Q2, 2006)
7. Webber - 1'13.826 (Q3, 2010)
 
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Famine
Schumacher's pass was absolutely fine........
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Not only fine but in my opinion; the best and only real overtaking manoeuvre of the whole race..(seriously, Alonso passing the back of the field does not count as overtaking). Great move by Schumi, just goes to show he can take a tight line there if he wants to :sly:

Another great drive by Webber, if this doesn't rattle Vettel, I don't know what will.
 
Justin
Worst part is, is that the NASCAR race isn't on till noon and isn't even on SPEED.:grumpy:👎
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Exactly! The race wasn't even going to start for another 3 hours. They couldn't have just given an extra 20 minutes or so to Formula 1?

They should rename SPEED channel the "NASCAR With Some Other Stuff Occasionally Channel"!
 
Great celebration scenes on the BBC F1 forum.

Vettel couldn't even push Webber into the pool. Webber brushed him off and did a backflip.
 
Well, that was a pretty impressive performance from Webber, he was just untouchable. Vettel did another good drive, but Kubica did much better I thought.

What was with the 3rd safety car? I swear Charlie Whiting just thought "This is getting boring, send the Safety Car out for a few laps!"

That was a slightly desperate move from Trulli, I thought He'd actually beheaded Chandhok at first because he tucked his head down!

Schumacher's move was pretty sneaky, hopefully he won't get a penalty because Ross Brawn seems to have fairly strong evidence in favour of the manoeuvre.

On the whole a very long, but very good race. :D
 
He's been penalised. 20 seconds and he's now last (12th)

I agree with Ross Brawn's explanation. The Green flags were out, SC was in and past the SC line.
 
Only_in_f1
He's been penalised. 20 seconds and he's now last (12th)

I agree with Ross Brawn's explanation. The Green flags were out, SC was in and past the SC line.
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I wonder if the stewards' decision had anything to do with the drivers' representative this race being Damon Hill?

:lol:
 
Monaco 2005 anyone? That's at least the second time Trulli made such a desperate and somewhat hilarious overtaking maneuver on another driver. :lol:
 
What a ridiculous rule to bring the safety car in for the last 20 meters or so anyway ...
So who did get a penalty ? "He" refers to Schumacher?
 
ExigeEvan
I hope it had everything to do with it!
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And I hope Hill would be proffesional enough not to use his powers as a steward as means of retaliation some 16 years later. Personal issues should have no influence whatsoever on a stewards/referees decisions, especially in a sport of this level.

Bram Turismo
Monaco 2005 anyone? That's at least the second time Trulli made such a desperate and somewhat hilarious overtaking maneuver on another driver. :lol:
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At least he had no one else to blame but himself for that one, otherwise we may see another delusional outburst from him like we saw at Brazil last year :lol:
 
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He stole a world title off him. I doubt he'd object to the other stewards giving that penalty out.
 
H20HYBRID_GT
What a ridiculous rule to bring the safety car in for the last 20 meters or so anyway ...
So who did get a penalty ? "He" refers to Schumacher?
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Correct.

I think its a joke really. Say's alot about what's wrong with F1 when you overtake and get penalised.
 
timeattack07gt
And I hope Hill would be proffesional enough not to use his powers as a steward as means of retaliation some 16 years later. Personal issues should have no influence whatsoever on a stewards/referees decisions, especially in a sport of this level.
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So why appoint an F1 driver to the board? To offer his personal opinion? If it was simply a matter of "the book says this" then why do they need someone of personal experience to give their view and opinion.

Everyone knows Hill and Schumacher has history, it's no secret.
Famine
He stole a world title off him. I doubt he'd object to the other stewards giving that penalty out.
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This.
 
From the BBC F1 website:

Mercedes driver Michael Schumacher has been penalised for overtaking Ferrari's Fernando Alonso when it was not allowed at the end of the Monaco Grand Prix.

The decision adds 20 seconds to the German's race time, demoting him to 12th place and putting Alonso sixth.

Schumacher passed Alonso on his way out of Rascasse and into Anthony Noghes, but the move came under a safety car.

The stewards, who included Schumacher's old rival Damon Hill, ruled that the German had breached safety rules.

Article 40.13 of the Formula 1 sporting regulations states: "If the race ends while the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."

Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali said: "Our understanding of the rule is pretty clear, you can't overtake on the final lap."

But Mercedes' team boss Ross Brawn argued that the race was still active because the safety car pulled off the circuit and the race was not gong to end under safety car conditions.

"From the instructions we got, the safety car was coming in, but the race itself wasn't finishing under the safety car - that is a very important distinction.

"As soon as we got the instruction that the safety car was going in we thought the race was on again.

"Just look at the reaction of all of the other drivers, everybody was going for it," said Brawn.

Ferrari's Felipe Massa said he was told on team radio that the whole track was under yellow flag conditions when the safety car pulled into the pits, meaning that overtaking was not permitted.

But, speaking before the decision to punish him, Schumacher contradicted that claim.

"We got the message that the safety car was in and the track was clear, that means we are back racing, so I took my opportunity," said the German legend.

"It is normal that the other team has a different opinion, but I am not expecting a penalty."
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What a stupid rule:tdown:
 

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