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No word on if its official or not, we'll have to wait and see. You're definately seeing the "corporate face" of Toyota in there, but at least in my biased opinion, the Volt looks much, much better. Hell, even the Insight blows this out of the water...
 
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No word on if its official or not, we'll have to wait and see. You're definately seeing the "corporate face" of Toyota in there, but at least in my biased opinion, the Volt looks much, much better. Hell, even the Insight blows this out of the water...
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Just about everything looks better than anything Toyota. That company -- and now Nissan, apparently -- seem to be fractalizing their curves. What used to be smooth, simple curves are now complex forms that only a French curve's mother could love, most of it in the headlights and front & rear bumpers.

And, yes, even though I hate all electric cars, the Volt actually looks decent.
 
YSSMAN
No word on if its official or not, we'll have to wait and see. You're definately seeing the "corporate face" of Toyota in there, but at least in my biased opinion, the Volt looks much, much better. Hell, even the Insight blows this out of the water...
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In that case, job well done for Toyota. It seems their goal these days is to produce the most bland and boring cars on the market.

No doubt it doesn't have to have anything but a "Prius" badge on it to make it sell like hotcakes.
 
While this design isn't my cup of tea, I really have to see more to judge it. I also understand that Toyota isn't trying to create the next best looking compact(or midsize, depending on who you talk to) with this design.

It's ugly, but so is Range Rover, xB, BMWs, etc., etc. I'm making a point. ;)
 
Toyota managed to make the Prius UGLIER!?
 
in my opinion anything to increase efficiency is good looks. therefore this looks great.
 
Ah, yes. The grown-up-hippiemobile. The Left's favorite: It's bland, slow, and has no chance of becoming a street racer.
 
No, but not everything has to be a loaf of bread, either. There are many successful small cars that drive well: Honda Fit, Renault Clio, Ford Fiesta.

'course, If the people who push these cars had their way, you'd have an electronic limiter at 65MPH. For your own good. And Auto Racing? Gone.
 
There are many successful small cars that drive well: Honda Fit, Renault Clio, Ford Fiesta.
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but they don't get this gas mileage :)
just because some people want efficiency for their daily driver doesn't mean they are going to burn down the race tracks.
 
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No, but not everything has to be a loaf of bread, either.
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What you saying?

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'course, If the people who push these cars had their way, you'd have an electronic limiter at 65MPH. For your own good. And Auto Racing? Gone.
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Not too much of an issue.

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Nobody ever goes faster than that in the places where the Prius sells anyway. Especially not Priuses.
 
It's all a bit... dull, to be honest. The exterior gets a mere 'meh', but that interior is ghastly. Was coloured paint too expensive? Too non-eco? Could they not find a way to ship it back and forth across the planet a multitude of times like they do with the other bits? Apparently someone told Toyota that sitting inside a ventilation duct was the way forward for interior design. Presumably someone with shares in Honda and GM.
 
According to Autoblog (through Jalopnik), this is officially the next Prius.

As for shipping it around the world five times, I think I read somewhere that they were going to move their battery processing to China or Japan, so that should help on that front.
 
Its a bit disappointing. At the very least, the Volt looks like a halfway normal car. This... Well... It looks like a space pod of some kind. Maybe something you'd have to deposit in the rear while ill...

I'm eager to see what kind of performance (that is, economical performance) they can squeeze out of it. For that matter, how long it will be until they have their PHV system ready.
 
I saw that commercial on TV today and while watching it, was thinking to myself "Yah right, nice try."
 
Regardless of everyone's opinions, these will probably have just as high mark ups as the original when it hit the US, and will probably sell just as well.
 
Considering they could've made it a pile of poo with one or both of these emblems on it yes it would sell just as well.

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I can't believe this bull...
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I'd rather have a cake Skoda Fabia than a bracken Toyota Prius:



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but they don't get this gas mileage :)
just because some people want efficiency for their daily driver doesn't mean they are going to burn down the race tracks.
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I generally agree with you - I'm a fan of economical cars, but in the UK at least there are many, many cars that get even better mileage and are both quicker and more fun to drive than the Prius. Something like a diesel Honda Civic does 65mpg extra urban (i.e. "highway") - basically the same as a Prius. Yet the Civic has a 20mph higher top-end, and gets to 60 in 2 seconds less. Being a turbo-diesel, it's in-gear acceleration is pretty good too. Not only that, it costs about £2000 less to buy, has a bigger fuel tank (i.e. better range), more luggage space, and weighs 50kg less. For all the Prius's money saving credentials too, it's only one road tax band lower than the Civic.

The final stake through the Prius's heart in the UK is that for the eco-conscious, the Civic is entirely built in Swindon (i.e. in the UK) so it hasn't had to travel once around the world to be built and shipped to the consumer. And even then, you could pick a VW Golf, not made in the UK, and with similar figures to the Civic that would be more environmentally friendly to run, and probably still cheaper than the Prius.

In the UK at least, it's an absolute no-brainer, which makes it all the more confusing as to why people buy the Prius.
 
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And even then, you could pick a VW Golf, not made in the UK, and with similar figures to the Civic that would be more environmentally friendly to run, and probably still cheaper than the Prius.
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Or a Focus Econetic, or anything else with the Ford/PSA 1.6 HDi engine for that matter. But that's not what you're getting with the Prius - you're getting the fact that Cameron Diaz has one, and the idea that animals and plants smile as it goes by. I mean it's absolute bull, but it still sells. Say 'Prius' and people instantly know the Eco friendly credentials. Say 'Golf' or 'Focus' and they'll look blankly at you until you explain in an adenoid enriched voice that "Actually, it's the Bluemotion model with the 1.9 diesel engine that actually achieves miles per gallon figures near to or higher than the Prius". Then they tend to walk off and talk to someone else.
 
Agreed. So as a result the Prius is more likely to sell to the pretentious t... well, a word that rhymes with "flats" that's frowned upon by the AUP. Apart from the car's obvious flaws as an eco-friendly choice, I wouldn't even mind so much if the people who drove them didn't carry the ill-placed sense of smug self-satisfaction. Must be the most popular option on the list...
 
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Agreed. So as a result the Prius is more likely to sell to the pretentious t... well, a word that rhymes with "flats" that's frowned upon by the AUP. Apart from the car's obvious flaws as an eco-friendly choice, I wouldn't even mind so much if the people who drove them didn't carry the ill-placed sense of smug self-satisfaction. Must be the most popular option on the list...
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Yeees. And if Ken Livingstone had got his way, those efficient diesels would be a cheaper alternative for those wanting to avoid the congestion charge. You've gotta admit, the cat voiced newt enthusiast did have some good ideas.

Oh well. :/
 
The Prius is little more than a bandwagon-mobile. The typical Seattle family owns an Outback and a Prius, one to show off how active they are outdoors while saving the planet and not needing an SUV, and the other to show off just how eco-friendly they are.
 
In the US, the Prius became a fashion statement long before it was actually a good choice for economical folks. Without a doubt, it gets some of the best city mileage you can find in any car, the highway figures get a little wonky now that the VW Jetta TDI is around. Nevertheless, its a well-priced and otherwise "green" alternative, and if people think they're making a difference by buying one, so be it.

IMO, now that gas has gone back down, the Corolla continues to be the better alternative in that price range.
 
I think the general consensus is that if you bought your Prius before 2007, then you are the Greeny-cool king in blue states. If you bought one in 2007 or later, then you are just trying to fit in with all the other cool kids, but you're still cool because you're still saving the planet. Yeah.... Something like that.

Gas going back down shouldn't have much of an impact on what cars people age going to buy. Everybody should know that next summer it's just going to go back up again, and probably higher than it just did. The Corolla is a good car to buy because of the gas crunch, but that shouldn't be just because prices are low now you so can afford something a little less efficient. Because you won't be able to forever.
 
Don't speak too soon, SUV and truck sales are already up as prices have dropped this fall. But, as long as we've got this economic "S-Storm" sitting over our heads, I don't think anyone is really going to be rushing out to get a new car or truck. Although, a 0% finance rate on a Corolla XRS sounds like a terrific deal right about now. Problem is, I've already (gasp!) got a Toyota that I like.
 
I wonder if the Prius will go in competition with the Honda Clarity
 
It'll be competing with the 2010 Honda Insight:

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You know these Japanese cars now are starting to look more and more like Ridge Racer cars :lol:
 
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