2013 NASCAR Thread

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And who brings up the "rivalry" with Clint Bowyer and Jeff Gordon for the first time in 2013? Non other then the same guy who got the business end of rage from Kurt Busch, Bob Podgrass :rolleyes:
 
Ahh racing is back to how it was in the early 2000's.

EDIT: *SIGH* Well I guess testing is going to be boring tomorrow!
 
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I would hate to be on the lawn crew right now. If the cars plow(for lack of a better term) like that every time they come off the track, it's gonna be hell keeping the infields in decent shape.

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Haha. I had to, it was the perfect situation.
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Not really. Divots with a Caddyshack pic might have done better.
 
Just turn all the infield grass into mud, NASCAR is all about big wrecks anyway so it could be turned into a demolition derby series where only the toughest cars and drivers get to victory lane. Finishing position wouldn't matter, but instead the one who manages to wreck the most cars in the allotted time wins it. Basically this forces drivers to take care not to damage their own car when turning someone.
 
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I wish Nascar could go 1 year without messing with the cars.
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I think what he was alluding to was literally 'tweaks.'

Such as the removal of braces in the 2011 off-season.

The renovation of the 3-part spoiler midway in the 2011 season.

Change in manufacture decals a year and a bit ago.

I'm concerned that there might be a manufacture advantage this season but so far testing looks good though.
 
Those Gopro videos from Furniture Row are fantastic, alot of stuff I always hear about makes alot more sense now that I've actually seen them in action as well as watch how they work.
 
Yes, tweaks get annoying, but at least they try to stay on top of things. The brackets were a bad idea, the wing wasn't but didn't do what they thought it would, and then there's the restrictor plates which seem to change each race. Not to mention those to appease the "stock car" destinction.
 
The day true stock car racing died- when the COT was shown to have wings.
Sure, it had been on live support for 20 years by that point, but that killed the idea that these cars even looked like supped up versions of the Impalas or Fusions you can find on your local dealership.
 
Is it me or is anyone worried about the quality of racing degrading? Feels like the racing is getting so much tougher, some guys like the Ganassi boys, Ragan, Reutimann and Smith have kinda fallen off... Would be natural, but even this year we're only going to get Stenhouse as compensation, with the Dillons and Bayne hopefully quickly following him to full-time seats while not in expense of other good drivers.
 
Carbonox
Is it me or is anyone worried about the quality of racing degrading? Feels like the racing is getting so much tougher, some guys like the Ganassi boys, Ragan, Reutimann and Smith have kinda fallen off... Would be natural, but even this year we're only going to get Stenhouse as compensation, with the Dillons and Bayne hopefully quickly following him to full-time seats while not in expense of other good drivers.
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Not sure exactly what you mean, but,

I think the problem with the teams you mentioned is that time just caught up with them. Once the big teams figured out the COT and all the extra money they spent on testing it and improving the car paid off the smaller teams eventually fell to the wayside. Ganassi gave Montoya and McMurray competitive cars early in the COT's life, to the point Montoya was a legitimate title contender in 2009, not so much recently. Despite Montoyas poor results recently I think the team knows his cars arent very good, so thats why they're giving him a pass.

With the new car I expect the smaller teams to catch back up again, at least for a little while.

Stenhouse is a good talent, not so sure about Dillon and Bayne.

Cup has needed fresh new talent for a good while now. One of the great things about F1 is how many new faces there are almost every year. In NASCAR Cup racing theres only 2-3 new rookies every year. Thats not many for a field of 43 drivers. Compare that with F1 where about 1/3 of the field is changed every year.

It was good for the sport that a new young face like Keselowski won the title. The sport needs new, younger champions. Hamlin choked away the chance to be that guy. I think Stenhouse can challenge the old guard.
 
Exhibit A:

Rookie of the Year past three years:

Stephen Leicht, Andy Lally and Kevin Conway

About time we see some new faces and talented ones at that.
 
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Wow they actually cancelled testing because of the crash yesterday! I'm quite surprised. Thanks alot Jr.
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It was shortened, not cancelled.

Also, its testing, Nothing malicious was intended so drop the blame game please.
 
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It just seems to me every year they show up at Daytona all the teams are adjusting for a major change.
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Minor, maybe. Major, not really. As pointed out, the last major change was in 2007.
 
I don't mind the changes every year as they are learning what helps or hurts. I mean of all the races, I think Daytona/Dega have got most negative feedback from the 2 car tango which honestly wasn't terrible just way off the old school packs.

The COT was a great idea that had some flaws til they tried it as wind test, computer models ad even track days don't always show truth of the car. I wasn't a fan of new car at first but we have slowly come around to hopefully a good package with minor tweaks over the years now.
 
Honestly if they had to change from the old car, this Generation 6 car is what it should have been in the first place.
 
Nobody gets it all right first go round. How many comletely different rulebooks has F1, the WRC, and Le Mans gone trough, just to change it again rather quick. Yes, the COT was an ugly lump that defied everything NASCAR had looked toward in the last 20 years, but it did what it had to do, ask Michael McDowell.

In other words, Like the rest of life hindsight is 20/20. But thats the past, this is the now. Different problems, different situations, live for today, not yesterday.
 

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