2013 NASCAR Thread

[Blitz24]

Look at all that black.

You're talking to a wall essentially when arguing with him at this point. I just say his "legacy color" (since drivers have legacy colors these days) is orange alone.

 

[-Fred-]

Look at all that black.

Don't forget all that black:

 

[RACECAR]

I say all the Legacy talk, as usual coming from the same guy, is BS.

 

[ICEYOU]

You're talking to a wall essentially when arguing with him at this point. I just say his "legacy color" (since drivers have legacy colors these days) is orange alone.

Just like Earnhardt's black, Petty's blue and Gordon's red.

 

[Wilbur]

Just like Earnhardt's black, Petty's blue and Gordon's red.

When in the world did Gordon become red? You really need to get a handle on what you post.

 

[Blitz24]

And Martin's blue, Bobby Labonte's green, Johnson's blue, Terry's yellow.....

 

[Shoe67]

Just like Earnhardt's black, Petty's blue and Gordon's red.

Gordon is forever and always the rainbow warrior.

 

[Northstar]

And Martin's blue, Bobby Labonte's green, Johnson's blue, Terry's yellow.....

And Danica's bent sheetmetal.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Talladega 1000 mile race with no restrictor plates. It would still be done before the 600 was last night.

Yeah but imagine the carnage...Carl Edward 2009 times 3 perhaps? Also I wonder how the engines would hold up on such a large track for 1000 miles.

Also if the transmissions have trouble holding up at Pocono, I don't think a long race at a road course as I said earlier is smart...

 

[Blitz24]

Yeah but imagine the carnage...Carl Edward 2009 times 3 perhaps? Also I wonder how the engines would hold up on such a large track for 1000 miles.

Also if the transmissions have trouble holding up at Pocono, I don't think a long race at a road course as I said earlier is smart...

Well they would clearly use Stewart's ideas from last year's interview.

 

[Wilbur]

The only way I see a true endurance race more than the 600 is if they cut back power on the engine.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The only way I see a true endurance race more than the 600 is if they cut back power on the engine.

Why?

 

[Wilbur]

Why?

Well RPM/power because those engines have issues lasting that long already at times. I'd say around 800 laps total is about the max they can turn running wide open.

 

[Blitz24]

Well RPM/power because those engines have issues lasting that long already at times. I'd say around 800 laps total is about the max they can turn running wide open.

Track dependent then. 800 laps at Charlotte is 1200 miles.

 

[Wilbur]

Track dependent then. 800 laps at Charlotte is 1200 miles.

Well give how many laps they run on given weekend on one engine. 400 laps+ practice so maybe another 100ish.

I also didn't think about my numbers I ment miles will be about 800 for a weekend or so.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Well RPM/power because those engines have issues lasting that long already at times. I'd say around 800 laps total is about the max they can turn running wide open.

Or if they updated the engines they could keep the power, they wouldn't be the first group to run an endurance race with a car of 850hp, there have been others.

Hence why I asked. There have been plenty of engines running such powers and even higher rpm...it's not impossible. Thus it was a loaded questions I suppose in a way.

 

[hawkeye122]

I was actually thinking about how cool it would be to have an endurance event in NASCAR longer than the 600. Obviously, the spare drivers would end up being has-beens and Nationwide drivers. But hey! It could be cool!

As far as engine longevity, well, leave that up to the teams! If they want to run at 100% and not make it to then end, more power to them!

I'm not the best person to pitch this since I'm not a NASCAR regular, but still.

Heck, do it at a road course! Run half the race with your Cup driver, and then find some Aussie V8/Superstars/Touring Car guys to finish off the race! Everyone still gets full points, and we'd have a heck of a spectacle on our hands.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I was actually thinking about how cool it would be to have an endurance event in NASCAR longer than the 600. Obviously, the spare drivers would end up being has-beens and Nationwide drivers. But hey! It could be cool!

As far as engine longevity, well, leave that up to the teams! If they want to run at 100% and not make it to then end, more power to them!

I'm not the best person to pitch this since I'm not a NASCAR regular, but still.

Heck, do it at a road course! Run half the race with your Cup driver, and then find some Aussie V8/Superstars/Touring Car guys to finish off the race! Everyone still gets full points, and we'd have a heck of a spectacle on our hands.

I guess Ambrose would have to do the opposite them, eh? Also I don't see how the engines wouldn't be able to last if they just did some simple reworking nothing too big.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I'd like to see NASCAR do something REALLY bold that would shake up the trees, such as each car team only has 18 engines for the season, excluding The All Star Race. Or, allowing 1 or 2 fuel stops for the entire race. Until they do something drastic like F1 did, NASCAR is going to just meander along.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'd like to see NASCAR do something REALLY bold that would shake up the trees, such as each car team only has 18 engines for the season, excluding The All Star Race. Or, allowing 1 or 2 fuel stops for the entire race. Until they do something drastic like F1 did, NASCAR is going to just meander along.

F1 has probably more gimmicks at the moment than F1, limiting engines would mean having to limit races and distances. Also engine and transmission limits were only done in F1 due to trying to cost cut, and make it easier on smaller teams. Also 18 engines? I highly doubt the displacement between four cars or even three car teams sharing 18 engines would be enough for a 36 race season, along with all the happy hours, qualifying and smaller exhibition races. Nascar shouldn't be looking to F1 as model of what to do, nor should any other group look toward nascar for what to do.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Each car would have 18, not a team owner's overall team. 18 because, that is half of the season and engines should be engineered to endure.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Each car would have 18, not a team owner's overall team. 18 because, that is half of the season and engines should be engineered to endure.

Engines already endure, it still isn't enough and isn't going to shake anything up either. It doesn't address anything else I said as well.

 

[RVDNuT374]

Or how about we just fire Brian France, Mike Helton, and Robin Pemberton, then NASCAR will slowly return to its former glory?

 

[GTPorsche]

Those ideas are terrible.

Except for wanting the NASCAR execs changed.

 

[plate88]

I wish Goodyear/Nascar would stop using tires from last year. It's something like 5 or 6 races used the identical tire as last year. Hello, Nascar, a new car won't change anything without new tires. Both Goodyear/ Nascar have gotten lazy with the tires and this alone would greatly improve the racing. It is the only part of the car touching the ground. Kind of important don't you think Mr. Brian France?

 

[Ganon83]

I'm actually fine with Helton. He's been around for years. It seems like he's more of a figurehead then say France, who it seems is the guy really in charge of NASCAR.

 

[Wilbur]

I wish Goodyear/Nascar would stop using tires from last year. It's something like 5 or 6 races used the identical tire as last year. Hello, Nascar, a new car won't change anything without new tires. Both Goodyear/ Nascar have gotten lazy with the tires and this alone would greatly improve the racing. It is the only part of the car touching the ground. Kind of important don't you think Mr. Brian France?

This is a touchy issue I think overly but they need softer tires that fresh tires actually show fairly large gains. We just don't need another Indy or Hoosier deal either, but there is a room for improvement.

Honestly I think NASCAR needs to cut a page out of most other series and have more sprint races since their name is such, with a few longer races during the seasons. You could even do something like have split races to make up 500 miles or whatever the distance is, I've never been a fan of these race that allow 4-5 pitstops to address issue. Trucks seem to have tons of action and are built around that only because being a lower series.

 

[RACECAR]

or how about we just fire brian france, then nascar will slowly return to its former glory?

ftfy.

 

[Ganon83]

Fun fact- without the barely ever there 44 car, we'd be stuck with a 42 car field for Sunday.

 

[GTPorsche]

Honestly I think NASCAR needs to cut a page out of most other series and have more sprint races since their name is such, with a few longer races during the seasons. You could even do something like have split races to make up 500 miles or whatever the distance is, I've never been a fan of these race that allow 4-5 pitstops to address issue. Trucks seem to have tons of action and are built around that only because being a lower series.

If that's how you want it to be, then the Nationwide series needs to have one race where they race across the entire country, and the Truck series should be ran in RVs.