2013 NASCAR Thread

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ICEYOU
Larry Mac is absolutely wrong when he says anybody can win on a road course.
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Yes, because the piece of green debris is racing again.

I heard rumors about Tony considering placing a monkey in the #10 car later in the season though. Apparently, the main reason for hiring the monkey is that at least no car is too loose for it, and it doesn't need cautions every 20 laps to stay on the lead lap in a car that is... well, maybe not exactly top tier, but above the 2nd tier at least.
 
Hey...... Wait a minute....Danica didn't finish dead last... Way to go, a nice 13 place finish for Danica.

Okay, since James Finch said that he is looking to sell his team after Indy, I think this is a good opportunity for Turner-Scott Motorsports to enter the cup series full time. I would not be surprised if it did happen.

And from the looks of it, Bobby wasn't what was wrong over at JTG, but we didn't get to really see what they had as far as the race goes. Lol
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
I thought you already did that.
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Usually, it would be for 24 hour races not on TV while watching races that are being aired on TV. Never watched the 24 Hours Of Le Mans, which I usually devote a lot of attention to, on the same weekend as the Nascar Road Course races, which I also usually devote a lot of attention to.
 
Oh, and this wasn't Hendrick Motorsports worst race. There was a Talladega race where all of their engines blew, even the teams they supplied.
 
GTPorsche
Oh, and this wasn't Hendrick Motorsports worst race. There was a Talladega race where all of their engines blew, even the teams they supplied.
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Ironically enough, that was the last NASCAR Winston Cup race that didn't have a caution, at a Superspeedway race no less
 
Furinkazen
Almirola 219mph :eek:
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Is that a new in race speed record outside of Daytona or Talladega?

Adamgp
ICEYOU is correct. I just saw that interview myself.
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I dont buy it for a second. You dont cut down a tire by overdriving the car. What was Greg Biffle doing? Cruising?

Kahne had a similar problem with his tire and Im sure they shared the same setups. Im sure it was aggressive camber or something similar
 
Larry was wrong, there are about 10 drovers capable of winning a full field Cup road race. Oddly, they are the same 10 drovers capable of winning the Cup Championship.
 
Stormtrooper217
Or Jeff Gordon. :lol:

If Jeff doesn't get wrecked or have a parts failure next weekend I'll be shocked.
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Remember? Gordon will be wrecked by Jacques before the race. He'll have his first missed race of his career. NASCAR will then permanently ban Villeneuve.
 
Earth
I dont buy it for a second. You dont cut down a tire by overdriving the car. What was Greg Biffle doing? Cruising?

Kahne had a similar problem with his tire and Im sure they shared the same setups. Im sure it was aggressive camber or something similar
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Again, Jimmie himself said he blew the tire over driving the car. Who said it got cut? Most likely it overheated and blew, by driving (maybe too) hard, like Jimmie himself said happened.
 
Earth
Kahne had a similar problem with his tire and Im sure they shared the same setups. Im sure it was aggressive camber or something similar
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Kahne blew a right front, Johnson blew a left front. None of us know what setups or camber they were running, so how are you so sure of it?
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
I thought you already did that.

@ICEYOU

Sorry, I'm glad you are finally right for once.



:lol:
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Gonna have to take this back Speed and Nascar.com confirm that he had a tire issue, which like an engine failure is beyond the control of the driver.

This
also here

And another

It was bad luck for HMS, not just one drive but all 4 and thus none even finished in the top 25.

Adamgp
Again, Jimmie himself said he blew the tire over driving the car. Who said it got cut? Most likely it overheated and blew, by driving (maybe too) hard, like Jimmie himself said happened.
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Plenty of sources say it as I just showed, and the only way I could see him cutting it down by "over driving" is if he rubbed the wall. Even if he was pushing it to the limit the tires would have lost grip before they blew or cut down. Thus this idea that you can push a car to hard and break down a part before it loses quality first is beyond me. A tire doesn't just go straight to a blow out or cut down, it is more likely he may have run to high and collected debris. I guess that qualifies as over driving..

RACECAR
Usually, it would be for 24 hour races not on TV while watching races that are being aired on TV. Never watched the 24 Hours Of Le Mans, which I usually devote a lot of attention to, on the same weekend as the Nascar Road Course races, which I also usually devote a lot of attention to.
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Shouldn't be too hard for you, I think....No harder than staying up to watch an early morning F1 race and then waking up a few hours later to watch the Nascar one. Well good luck to all of us who try it. I think Stewart will win at Sonoma

GTPorsche
Kahne blew a right front, Johnson blew a left front. None of us know what setups or camber they were running, so how are you so sure of it?
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Exactly we don't know, I mean it is said they usually run similar setups but it is more likely that along with the bad luck of the other two. It just wasn't HMS's day to win. Also Knaus had changed the air pressure in the tires long after Kahne was out of the race, thus running a different set up. Also JJ was getting four tires more times than others thus why he had to race back to the front so often. Seeing as left sides were left on the car for most of the race by several drivers if not most of the group, I find it hard to believe that camber would destroy brand new left sides on the 48.
 
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LMSCorvetteGT2
Plenty of sources say it as I just showed, and the only way I could see him cutting it down by "over driving" is if he rubbed the wall. Even if he was pushing it to the limit the tires would have lost grip before they blew or cut down. Thus this idea that you can push a car to hard and break down a part before it loses quality first is beyond me. A tire doesn't just go straight to a blow out or cut down, it is more likely he may have run to high and collected debris. I guess that qualifies as over driving..
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The tire wasn't cut, he overcooked it by pushing the car too hard and it blew. Jimmie himself said so in the post race interviews.

But clearly you know more about what happened watching the race from your couch than the driver of the car that blew the tire and smacked the wall.
 
This weekend will finally give us ALL we need to know about the Generation 6 cars, as we're FINALLY going to see this car go road racing. Part of me says this car will fare quite well in road racing. NASCAR road racing has always fascinated me. It is much better hearing the cars shift through the gears and seeing the cars go left and right. For someone who loves the old Panoz LMP Roadster (powered by a NASCAR engine, I believe), NASCAR stock cars sound great hammering through the gears on a road course. Only Trans-Am cars and Australian V8 Supercars sound better.

Still, you have to be excited to see Nationwide at Road America and Cup at... what is now called Sonoma Raceway.
 
Adamgp
The tire wasn't cut, he overcooked it by pushing the car too hard and it blew. Jimmie himself said so in the post race interviews.

But clearly you know more about what happened watching the race from your couch than the driver of the car that blew the tire and smacked the wall.
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Oh that old bit, somewhat circular thinking on your part. It seems more likely that the camber setup was too much, though it is hard to believe due him coming through the field a few times during the race. Running four tire stops thus having fresher tires than anyone else. Also Kahne ran a similar strategy and even at cruising speed cut down a tire. So how is it that an equally hard running Biffle on older left side tires didn't run into the same issue. Also it was a left blow out/cut down, meaning that debris was more likely the culprit because the wear rate at Michigan is quite minimal on left side tires. Hence Junior running as fast of laps before blowing up with left side tires 130+ laps old. Yet this clearly means nothing because JJ's word is absolute and he couldn't possibly be mistaken.

No reason to be sarcastic about it when you could handle it in a more debate fashion, rather than trying to demean with a false analyses of why I'm wrong. Also read the articles they two claim it cut down which means more likely debris than tire wear was the issue. Further more people do lead lives beyond their couch, such things that provide them with insight on to why it was probably bad luck that he doesn't want to admit to.
 
Boris Said will be in the 32, Puerto Rican racer Victor Gonzalez Jr. in the 36.
For Road America:
Allmendinger in the 22,
Johnny O'Connell will drive the #5 at Road America for Dale Jr (3x ALMS GT1 champ, has won at Le Mans, Sebring & Daytona in sports cars),
Owen Kelly will be piloting the #54 Monster Energy Toyota Camry,
Michael McDowell will be in the #18 (This is why the 98 isn't entered in Cup this week),
Max Papis returns to the RCR #33,
Billy Johnson will drive the #16 for Roush Fenway,
Stanton Barret is in the #23 for Rick Ware.
 
JohnBM01
This weekend will finally give us ALL we need to know about the Generation 6 cars, as we're FINALLY going to see this car go road racing. Part of me says this car will fare quite well in road racing. NASCAR road racing has always fascinated me. It is much better hearing the cars shift through the gears and seeing the cars go left and right. For someone who loves the old Panoz LMP Roadster (powered by a NASCAR engine, I believe), NASCAR stock cars sound great hammering through the gears on a road course. Only Trans-Am cars and Australian V8 Supercars sound better.

Still, you have to be excited to see Nationwide at Road America and Cup at... what is now called Sonoma Raceway.
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Were they really?? I never knew that, well...I don't know much about Panoz cause I never cared for them but the LMP car was quite unique. Finding out they used that package. Also I have to disagree -not that it matters- but I think all the V8 powered cars (even the Toyota TS030) sound epic. Also glad to see what the Gen 6 can do at a road course.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Were they really?? I never knew that, well...I don't know much about Panoz cause I never cared for them but the LMP car was quite unique. Finding out they used that package.
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Yep, developed by Roush (Who BTW are still in Road Racing via The CTCCS).
 

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