2013 Shelby GT500 Revealed

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Horde_R35
Thanks much better. Nice looking car. I love the colour but it needs some cooler rims. I always thought these new mustang models have terrible rims...
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You need to see those roush rims in person. They're gorgeous on these cars.
 
If and when I get the money, a $60K, 650 HP, 600 lb-ft, 200 MPH, Mustang from the factory, I would snag it in a heartbeat. However, if I had another $35K to spend, I would wait until the 2013 GT-R, which has even more HP, a redesigned suspension, and some interior upgrades.
 
Guys, cant be reading the mags too much. Their times are corrected ET's for elevation, humidity and temps for quarter miles. 0-60 dont mean nothing. In real life, it isnt about the arrow, but more so about the indian.

Chevy and Ford will always battle it out. But, ZR1 or ZL1 against a Shelby Cobra? If John Coletti would of had it his way, he would of used a better platform than the current lincoln one which is heavy. The Terminator was a poor mans Vet killer any day of the week in the right hands / straight line. Too bad Ford got in with Carol and built it in such a heavy platform.

Die Ford for me, but this chassis is for large folks these days and they are only getting taller!!!!! Not that I am a midget but the Termee bucket seats felt like it was made just for me. :(
 
Hitman
If and when I get the money, a $60K, 650 HP, 600 lb-ft, 200 MPH, Mustang from the factory, I would snag it in a heartbeat. However, if I had another $35K to spend, I would wait until the 2013 GT-R, which has even more HP, a redesigned suspension, and some interior upgrades.
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Or you could spend those 35k upgrading your Mustang to eat that GT-R for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
 
Hitman
If and when I get the money, a $60K, 650 HP, 600 lb-ft, 200 MPH, Mustang from the factory, I would snag it in a heartbeat. However, if I had another $35K to spend, I would wait until the 2013 GT-R, which has even more HP, a redesigned suspension, and some interior upgrades.
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Bram Turismo
Or you could spend those 35k upgrading your Mustang to eat that GT-R for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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Not this discussion again. You can't factor in $30,000 of upgrades into a comparison, neither should you compare a $100,000 4WD Nissan to a $60,000 supercharged Mustang.
 
So it looks like Chevy has challenged Ford.

Detroit News
But if you want power, Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. might have created the most buzz with the newest editions of their legendary pony cars.
Ford brought out its 650-horsepower 2013 Shelby GT 500, a car the automaker says can top 200 mph. While it has the same squared-off looks of other Mustangs, it's all the work under the sheetmetal that is really impressive.
And to hear its engine rumble is automotive heaven.
The 2013 Camaro ZL1 convertible is equally as impressive, though it creates only 580 horsepower.
That didn't discourage Joe Ewanick, vice president of GM's marketing, from throwing a challenge at Ford.
"We should take a Camaro, Ford brings a Mustang, we each pick our drivers, and see who has the best time on the Nuremberg Ring," Ewanick said, referring to the legendary race track in Germany.
Jim Farley, who heads Ford's global marketing, was not swayed by the challenge (though it did appear he was biting his tongue slightly).
"I wish we could," he said, after hearing about Ewanick's challenge. "Who wouldn't want to do that?"
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Source: http://detnews.com/article/20111117...awn-steal-Los-Angeles-spotlight#ixzz1e1Lr08vc


What I don't understand about the challenge though is why take two very American muscle cars and try to see who can get them around the Ring the quickest? That sounds like one of the stupidest challenges you can do considering the cars since it's not very American, not very practical and won't prove anything at all like every other Ring time.

Why not take the cars to Road America or Road Atlanta and race em? You know an actual racetrack, not some semi-closed public road with all sorts of vehicles on it. Sure it still won't really prove anything other then car X is faster then car Y around a given track, but at least it'll showcase the vehicles track potential.

Oh well, the magazines will run them head-to-head very soon and they'll come up with a verdict.
 
GM: "Our car, which is almost certainly the inferior of the two as is the case throughout the rest of the model range, is possibly (but probably not, if the Boss is any indication) the better one at setting meaningless laptimes for a meaningless willy-waving contest."

Ford: "Cool Story Bro."
 
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Did they really call it Nuremburg Ring? They gonna race around some Nazi concentration camps?
 
Guess you can't say we didn't see this coming. I'm a bit biased though I love my mustang. The camaro's nice but damn impossible to see out of.
 
Those tailights are win. Plus, when companies get into the horsepower war....Everybody wins.
 
Toronado
GM: "Our car, which is almost certainly the inferior of the two as is the case throughout the rest of the model range, is possibly (but probably not, if the Boss is any indication) the better one at setting meaningless laptimes for a meaningless willy-waving contest."

Ford: "Cool Story Bro."
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:lol:
 
Joey D
So it looks like Chevy has challenged Ford.


Source: http://detnews.com/article/20111117...awn-steal-Los-Angeles-spotlight#ixzz1e1Lr08vc


What I don't understand about the challenge though is why take two very American muscle cars and try to see who can get them around the Ring the quickest? That sounds like one of the stupidest challenges you can do considering the cars since it's not very American, not very practical and won't prove anything at all like every other Ring time.
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Likely cause they want to get away from the "good in a straight line, crap in the corners" stigma that american cars are know for.
Nothing stupid about it.
Hopefully in 20 or 30 years they'll decide to do a "who's interior feels less like an outhouse" challenge.
 
eSZee
Likely cause they want to get away from the "good in a straight line, crap in the corners" stigma that american cars are know for.
Nothing stupid about it.
Hopefully in 20 or 30 years they'll decide to do a "who's interior feels less like an outhouse" challenge.
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The Ring doesn't mean anything though, it's not even that great of a racetrack. They'd be better off doing Laguna Seca, Road America, Infenion Raceway or something along those lines. Not to mention most American have no idea what the Ring even is.
 
Joey D
The Ring doesn't mean anything though, it's not even that great of a racetrack. They'd be better off doing Laguna Seca, Road America, Infenion Raceway or something along those lines. Not to mention most American have no idea what the Ring even is.
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Ford should have said "Go to Laguna, and if you beat our Boss Mustang time, we'll accept the challenge".

Edit: I guess Chevy isn't going to step aside so easily:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/18/camaro-zl1-chief-engineer-says-youre-welcome-to-ford-mustang

Camaro Nation:

As you know, the blogs lit up with the announcement of the new 650-horsepower Mustang GT500, and I wanted to give you my perspective on the latest challenge from Dearborn.

The Mustang has been playing catch up since the moment the fifth-gen Camaro arrived in 2009. Since then, Camaro has been the best-selling sports car in America, indicating that consumers know which car offers the best performance, style and safety.

It is no coincidence that Mustang has introduced three 100-horsepower increases to keep pace with Camaro: First their V-6 was bumped to 305; then their V-8 went to 412, and now the GT500.

Even with the 100-hp increase, the 2013 GT500 will still not match the technology and sophistication of the 2012 Camaro ZL1.

The days of "no replacement for displacement," are over, and it's not enough to be fast in a straight line. With the Camaro ZL1, we set out to deliver integrated performance, and be equally good at acceleration, braking, grip, and turning. As you will soon see, that's why the Camaro ZL1 will set the performance benchmark for the segment.

Our approach was to make every Camaro ZL1 fully track-capable, from the factory. As we announced today, the ZL1 Coupe will start at $54,995 with standard Magnetic Ride Control, standard Performance Traction Management, and standard track-capable equipment such as a rear-differential cooler, brake cooling ducts, and an engine and transmission cooler.

None of our customers will have to buy extra options – or modify their ZL1 – for track-day usage. That is not the case for the current GT500, or their new car.

For Mustang fans, you're welcome. Clearly the Camaro has encouraged Ford to throw everything they can at us.

For Camaro fans, trust me, we are always listening to your feedback, and working hard to keep the Camaro in the lead.

Al O.
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I like this comment on Autoblog:

I hate nothing more than a sore loser.

Don't take credit for something you didn't do. He says Mustang's been playing catch-up? I say it's the other way around...did the Mustang take a multi-yeared hiatus from the world? I think not.

GM's just mad because FoMoCo didn't even give them enough time to get through a bottle of champagne before they peed in it.

I'll drink to that.
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They've brought back the Boss 302, maybe at some point we will see a Boss 351 or even a Boss 429 return. Considering the old 429 had over 500hp stock, a new one with the pony car wars may be near 680...

Let's see, the new GT500 has a 351W (yes they brought it back) so The Boss 351 would be pointless unless they upped the c.i. in the GT500. A Boss 429 would be epic though.


Would be sweet to see a lot more classic cars make a return.
 
Yeah. I really hope a new Boss comes out soon besides the 302. 302 and 351's, yeah they are good engines, but COME ON, why can't we have something new ya know?


For real though, I smell a repeat of the 60's coming...These cars are getting into Ferrari/Bentley territory...with V8's mind you, not even V10's.
 
slashfan7964
For real though, I smell a repeat of the 60's coming...These cars are getting into Ferrari/Bentley territory...with V8's mind you, not even V10's.
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Yeah, with forced induction and ridiculous amounts of displacement.
 

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