2014 Italian Grand Prix

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  1. SVT Cobra GT

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    After all the drama that happened in Belgium between the Mercedes drivers, the hot topic in the paddock will be about that incident. Will it happen again? Will Lewis take matters into his own hands? How will he fight back for his championship? We shall find out in Monza for the Italian Grand Prix.

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    Event date: 5-7 September 2014
    Course length: 5.793 km (3.6 mi)
    Race distance: 53 laps
    Lap record: 1:21.046, Rubens Barichello, 2004




    2013 podium

    1st - Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)
    2nd - Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
    3rd - Mark Webber (Red Bull)




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  2. dhandeh

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    I will call it now, Hamilton's fault.
     
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  3. Pezzarinho17

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    This though :(

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    Apparently they have resurfaced some of the old banking as well, presuming I heard Will Buxton correctly...
     
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  4. GTPorsche

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    I saw that tweet from Will Buxton as well. Wasn't sure if he meant it was resurfaced or removed though...

    Did they expand the runoff at Parabolica or is it just being paved over now it looks bigger? Also heard that drivers wanted it paved over because it's safer.
     
  5. prisonermonkeys

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    WSBK want to go back to Monza. Why should their competitors be put in unnecessary danger for the sake of Formula 1 having an all-gravel run-off?

    If you look carefully, you can clearly see where the tarmac ends and the gravel begins. Anyone who runs wide is going to be forced to slow down and take evasive action to avoid the kitty litter. Running wide will still bring with it a heavy penalty.
     
  6. Pezzarinho17

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    Resurfaced was what I heard, that was during his GP2 / GP3 commentary in Spa.

    I'm fairly sure it is the same size as before, it was always quite a vast space. They used the safer argument to get their own way, but Romain Grosjean alluded to the fact that the drivers will now be able to find the limit quicker without the harsh penalty of running slightly wide existing... It changes the corner completely for me, as I'm sure we'll see everyone going 2 wheels over the line on every lap.

    No doubting the improved safety it brings, and I'm glad Monza can increase funds by attracting other series here. But it just becomes yet another corner where mistakes will go relatively unpunished, so the limits will be much easier to push.
     
  7. Grayfox

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    Maldonado you idiot


    There I said what were all thinking.
     
  8. prisonermonkeys

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    Again, look at the image you posted - you can clearly see where the run-off stops and the gravel starts. Anyone who runs wide will be forced to slow right down to avoid beaching in the gravel - and given the nature of Monza, that will compromise them all the way down the front straight and into the chicane.
     
  9. Pezzarinho17

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    I can see the gravel trap, it doesn't change what I am saying. I'm not suggesting a mistake would gain time or maintain it. What it would do though is allow them to continue. It isn't the same challenge anymore because the penalty is not as severe.

    It is also going to change the exit to the corner completely, as they'll all run 1 cars width (minus a pirelli) wider through the corner.
     
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  11. GTPorsche

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    Good. Slippery astroturf to negate any advantage that could be gained by running wide.

    I looked for a Maldonado has arrived image.. but I'm just not clever enough to find a good one.
     
  12. DQuaN

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    Me too!
     
  13. GTPorsche

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    It's definitely been resurfaced. Looks really smooth.. or at least a lot smoother than it had been.

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  14. Peasantslayer

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    On quali laps people can run wide into the final corner before starting their flier to gain a couple of tenths into T1, my prediction is that Rosberg will do it to take pole.
     
  15. prisonermonkeys

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    Except that the FIA has been cracking down on exactly that. And there is no grip on the new run-off. And there is the aforementioned astroturf. And it is slower than taking the actual corner.
     
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  16. Peasantslayer

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    nvm
     
  17. Hun200kmh

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    Let me add (to "hamilton's fault" and "Maldonado you idiot", already posted)

    - poor Grosjean

    - brilliant Alonso

    - Kimi's still struggling

    - amazing Ricciardo

    - is Vettel driving Webber's car?

    - Another calculated drive from Rosberg

    - Bianchi deserves a top seat


    feel free to add more reviews/post race comments about the 2014 Italian GP! :D
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  18. mustafur

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    Wow look at the Oval, put some fencing around the edge and lets go racing!
     
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  19. mustafur

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    Should have this going right around the Parabolica imo.
     
  20. SVT Cobra GT

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    OP now updated with Sky Sport's classic races for this week.
     
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  21. daan

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    Maldonado has arrived.

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  22. MonSpaNur

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    - Another fantastic recovery from the (pits/back of grid) for Lewis.

    - Once again, Pérez showed his superiority over his team mate.

    - Once again, Hülkenberg showed his superiority over his team mate.

    - Massa unlucky.
     
  23. SVT Cobra GT

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    Another fantastic drive from Bottas. He's going to get a win sooner or later.

    David Croft: "I spoke to Frank Williams about him earlier and he had a twinkle in his eye and his face lit up, he's very fond of Valtteri."
     
  24. daan

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    Rosberg has arrived too.

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  25. MonSpaNur

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    Hamilton tried to arrive incognito in a old Mercedes... didn't work... Rosberg recognised him...

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    Max Verstappen has arrived.
     
  27. GTP_Ingram

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    Are you sure that's Max? That car still has its front wing fully intact.
     
  28. Anghammarad

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    Bottas has arrived
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  29. GTPorsche

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    Lotterer might possibly be arriving?
     
  30. Peasantslayer

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    Jean-Eric Vergne has arrived.

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