2014 Mazda6 - General Discussion

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R1600Turbo
Read somewhere that the base weight is just under 3,000 pounds. Most compact sedans weight that now...
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That was unexpected. Though that puts it around the weight of the Mazda 3. What are the plans for that?

It looks nice overall, but I find the grille to be ugly enough to bring the design below the Malibu, Accord, etc.

Here's the best looking mid-size
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Using the term loosely. Interior space for the Kizashi isn't quite up to even the old Mazda6's modest standards.

The new 6 is supposed to be even bigger, and will still weigh as little as the Kizashi. That'll be fantastic.
 
niky
Using the term loosely. Interior space for the Kizashi isn't quite up to even the old Mazda6's modest standards.
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If I recall correctly, it is about the same size as an MKV Volkswagen Jetta. Which, is acceptable, but still not that big.
 
This thing just sounds so much like a winner.

If I can get a base model for ~22 grand, I will have one. Especially if they give me any properly drool-worthy dark red or reddish color. Or hell, deep purple. Something. With tan interior. Then it's getting polished RX-8 wheels.
 
finnracer
Surprised at the fact the the US model gets a less powerful 2.0 engine, although I think one or both of the diesels would suit US buyers needs very well (Good low-rev torque and plenty of oomph for overtaking). Still the lightness should benefit every engine.
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Why do we get the CX-5 diesel but not the 6 diesel?
 
eSZee
Why do we get the CX-5 diesel but not the 6 diesel?
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Mazda needs to find out if the diesel will actually sell before they spread it throughout the range. The CX5 is also a more socially acceptable platform to carry a diesel engine than a sedan. Depending on the arrival time of the diesel, Mazda may have sales numbers by the time the new 6 even hits dealers.
 
Keef
Mazda needs to find out if the diesel will actually sell before they spread it throughout the range. The CX5 is also a more socially acceptable platform to carry a diesel engine than a sedan. Depending on the arrival time of the diesel, Mazda may have sales numbers by the time the new 6 even hits dealers.
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We'll see. I have feeling mazda will make the diesel unavailable on the base model. Instead, they'll make it an option on a limited or sport configuration.
 
I enjoy how the gasoline engine has the highest compression in the world, and the diesel has the lowest. Only Mazda would do something like that. It must be incredibly demanding and rewarding to be an engineer for that company.
 
I find the 6 pretty much as attractive as a Jag XF. Exceedingly handsome thing isn't it? Wagon as well. (Proceeds to mind-photoshop some air intakes at the fog-lights' space.)

2013 is sure shaping up to be a big year for family mid-size comparisons with the Fusion and Accord. (US market, localise accordingly.)

(Dreams) Now if there was a 929 that looked exactly like the Shinari...

I wonder about the powerbands of both the SkyActiv-Gs (the petrol ones, in anti-marketing English) and whether Mazda will think of doing the turbo-downsize anytime in the next 5 years. Just how much efficiency can be squeezed out of a NA drivetrain without sacrificing drivability?

Also excited about how good the next 2, 3, MX5 and the rest might be...

if Mazda hopefully manages to survive and thrive in this decade.
 
The new Accord's headlights somehow remind of all the different 90's models. Personally feel the design has strayed from outright weirdness to acceptable Camry-dullness with a Genesis butt.

Wonder if C&D will continue to love the 4-cyl Accord too.

The Fusion (hatch) seems a bit fat from some angles if I was honest, and I'm still mixed about Ford's new corporate face.

On Mazda, apart from the high compression ratios on the SkyActiv-Gs, do any other of its methods or design prevent turbocharging?
 
coolboy48
On Mazda, apart from the high compression ratios on the SkyActiv-Gs, do any other of its methods or design prevent turbocharging?
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Not sure. I know the rumors flying for the new MX-5 suggested a small displacement (1.5, 1.6L) with a turbocharger. Just a rumor though.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
I enjoy how the gasoline engine has the highest compression in the world, and the diesel has the lowest. Only Mazda would do something like that. It must be incredibly demanding and rewarding to be an engineer for that company.
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There are those of us who'd kill for such a job.
 
Omnis
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This is not a new idea. Exhaust Gas Recirculation landed on many gasoline engines in the 70s to meet higher emissions standards and new cars still have them. EGR systems are totally lame and a car can run better without it (I removed mine because it was inconvenient) but emissions rules are harder to meet. Mazda's new system is used for a more special purpose than usual so it's still wort talking about.
 
I just read about how much this thing weighs. Nearly 400 pounds lighter than the outgoing (USDM) car but similar in dimensions? I like.
 
Yeah Mazda has been pretty strict on the weight loss lately. I know they went to great lengths to keep the weight down on the Mazda2.
 
Assuming that Mazda will undercut the VW Passat TDI at $26K, the Mazda6 should be one hell of a deal when it hits the road. Hopefully this is the kind of competition that gets the ball rolling with other manufacturers, specifically with Honda and GM putting their 2-ish liter diesels in more vehicles.
 

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