2015 F-150 - First Drive Report

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It still stuns me how this truck has been the best-selling vehicle in America for decades. It confounds me like you won't believe. I've seen a few of the F-150s before. In fact, I saw one yesterday on the road. I always wondered if having this new aluminum deal makes this truck any better. Interesting truck.
 
I am expecting big things from the new 3.5 engine. The engineer in me says this is the strongest V6 gasoline block ever put in mass production, besides the 2.7 that may be even stronger. Mass production should make it reasonably priced. Very well could become the thinking man's LSX the more I look into these.
 
Nice! While I still think that truck is ugly as sin, 254hp and 440ft/lb torque would be plenty of get up and go for the majority of people. Should get a lot better real world mileage than an EcoBoost, too.
 
The bar across the grille and into the headlights reminds me of a Silverado .
Which has ugliest front ends ever on a pick up truck.
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The Ford F-150 is getting a facelift for 2018 with a new front bumper, headlight and grille design. But the goods behind it are a lot more interesting: the base 3.5-liter V6 is being replaced with a 3.3, the 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 and 5.0-liter V8 are upgraded—and there’s a brand new 3.0-liter Power Stroke diesel in the mix.


The look reminds me a little of a combination between the current international-market Ranger and Super Duty. Seems like that Ford-family polygon grille shape has finally snuck onto the company’s papa bear pickup truck.

Ford hasn’t made any claims on the new diesel’s numbers yet besides the displacement. But the internet commenters have been begging for it, and in I guess about a year it will finally be in dealerships. Can’t say if an actual relationship between those two things exists, but hey, it makes me feel good to imagine decision-makers in our industry read the comments section here.


It doesn’t seem entirely clear if the F-150’s diesel option will be marketed primarily as an efficiency play, like Ram 1500’s EcoDiesel, or the heavy power option like it is in three-quarter and one-ton trucks. But the company has stated that the engine was developed “in-house” as opposed to some previous generation Power Stokes which were outsourced to International.

As it stands Ford has Power Stroke diesels on both ends of that scale– the frugal 3.2-liter in the Transit van and the mighty 6.7-liter monster in the Super Duty F-250 and its larger brothers. I imagine details on this will come to light over the course of the North American International Auto Show this week.

Ford’s also adding optional collision mitigation tech that’s supposed to help prevent you from rear-ending other drivers or running over pedestrians. A 4G LTE-powered WiFi hotspot is new on the options list too. So you can surf the web in peace without worrying about crashing into anyone! (Not really. Don’t do that.)

As for the other engines, there are big changes coming to the gasoline options as well.

For what seems like forever, a naturally aspirated 3.5-liter V6 was the F-150’s entry option. For 2018 that’s being dropped in favor of a 3.3, which Ford claims “is expected to” have the same output of 282 horsepower and 253 lb-ft of torque that the 3.5 had. Efficiency, which would appear to be this new engine’s objective, has not been quantified for us yet.



The old 3.5 was capable of 24 mpg on the highway according to the EPA, so we’re hoping to see a little improvement from that.

The 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 is completely revised for 2018, and Ford has promised improved stats across the board thanks to changes including new “advanced dual port and direct injection technology, reduced internal friction and improved robustness” as stated in a press release. I was impressed with the first production iteration of this engine myself. Empty-truck acceleration was ample and I ran at about 26 mpg with it driving to the desert and back loaded with camping gear.

Ford has detailed even less about what changes have been made to the 5.0 V8 but has stated we can expect “increased power and torque” from the engine in 2018. The range-topping 3.5 EcoBoost was already completely revised for 2017 and there do not appear to be more changes to it scheduled for 2018. It remains to be seen whether any tweaks will be made to the 2018 Raptor, aesthetic or otherwise. (I doubt it.)


Every engine beside the 3.3 will be shipping with a 10-speed automatic. But I reckon the headline here is still “there’s an F-150 with a diesel.”

Right now the only player in half-ton diesel trucks is Ram, which offers its 3.0 EcoDiesel with 240 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque. It also claims to be capable of 29 mpg on the highway, a spec I’m willing to bet Ford has its eyes on beating.

GM’s closest equivalent would be the mid-sized Colorado, which is available with a 2.8 liter Duramax diesel rated to 181 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque. But that’s not particularly relevant since the F-150 is a weight class up.



Watch this space over the course of the week as we learn more about the F-150’s revisions and power plants as information comes out from Detroit.

Source: Jalopnik

So, a 3.0 liter PowerStroke diesel has been confirmed for the '18 model. It'll be interesting to see the specs on it, I'm assuming they'll be trying to best the Ram EcoDiesel in power, torque and fuel mileage but my god is that truck ugly. Maybe it will look better in another color, but that grille is not attractive.
 
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The bar across the grille and into the headlights reminds me of a Silverado .
Which has ugliest front ends ever on a pick up truck.
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To be honest, I think Chevy did an excellent job styling the Silverado at the bottom. Overall, it's clean, sleek, and not complicated. Too many manufacturers go over-the-top with their cars in a desperate attempt to stand out from the rest, but Chevy did this truck just right by making it simple and inoffensive. Keep in mind, this is coming from a Ford guy. :lol:

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The Ford F-150 is getting a facelift for 2018 with a new front bumper, headlight and grille design. But the goods behind it are a lot more interesting: the base 3.5-liter V6 is being replaced with a 3.3, the 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 and 5.0-liter V8 are upgraded—and there’s a brand new 3.0-liter Power Stroke diesel in the mix.
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Well, that's certainly a... bold look. :irked: I don't hate it, but I don't like it. This design will take a long time to grow on me, that's for sure.
 
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To be honest, I think Chevy did an excellent job styling the Silverado at the bottom. Overall, it's clean, sleek, and not complicated. Too many manufacturers go over-the-top with their cars in a desperate attempt to stand out from the rest, but Chevy did this truck just right by making it simple and inoffensive. Keep in mind, this is coming from a Ford guy. :lol:
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The newer one looks better the bar is more integrated but the old one the bar looked out of place and ugly.

It looks way better without the bar across grille.

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Having F150 stamped on the tailgate not sure. It has that look of the older ones with Ford stamped on the back. Its not huge so it doesn't look that bad but you have a stamped tailgate that says F150 and thats cheesy looking
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No power or torque figures for the diesel yet (as it won't arrive until summer of next year), but the same engine in U.S.-spec Range Rovers and Range Rover Sports is rated at 254 horsepower and 440 lb.-ft of torque, both of those figures bettering the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel V6. And it, like all engines other than the new base engine (a naturally-aspirated 3.3L V6), will be teamed with the GM-Ford 10-speed automatic.

Needless to say, I think we're looking at the new 1/2-ton full-size towing, hauling and fuel economy champ...
 
Whoops...I guess you can delete this if you want, mods, but I think something should be done with the title of the old thread if it's going to include discussion of the '18 model. Your call.
 
The other American truck companies really need to start catching up.

Chevrolet - "We've got a steel bed. That means you'll get less dents and cracks if you carelessly throw stuff in the back instead of being responsible and careful."

Dodge - "We have a really good on-board computer."

Ford - "We have everything people actually care about."
 

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