2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

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According to this site 525ft, you guys are so lucky with that low elevation and low DA. Our here with summer temps put our DA at over 8000ft.
We range from 500-1000 feet, and the further south you go the more it varies.
 
Couple guys around here are reporting that Ford has been bringing the Ecoboost to local tracks and are running 12.9s out of the box at just a tick over 100mph.

That trap speed seems awful low for the time...
I have a problem believing this considering a stock E55 AMG(470hp) runs 11.9 at 121mph.
 
I have a problem believing this considering a stock E55 AMG(470hp) runs 11.9 at 121mph.
It is hard to believe with the weight of the s550 that its running these times. Stock LS1 F-bodies have ran 12.80 with a VERY good driver(Evan Smith MM&FF) and he has also got stock '11 5.0 GT to 12.60 @ 112 so its possible but highly unlikely.
 
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Quite honestly, quarter mile times and speeds mean nothing to me. You may as well be talking Swahili. I don't care about 1/4 mile times, and neither should the creators of the Ecoboost Mustang, because it's not supposed to be for that. With over 300 bhp, it'll be plenty fast, but what matters to me (and probably most Ecoboost buyers) is how it feels when driven hard. If you're buying the GT, you want a more traditional Mustang. If you're buying an Ecoboost, you want a Mustang that handles as well as a proper sports car, like an FR-S/GT86, but has more style and practicality. I'd be surprised if anyone who buys an Ecoboost Mustang gives a damn about how fast it does the quarter mile. It's not about that, that's GT territory.
 
Quite honestly, quarter mile times and speeds mean nothing to me. You may as well be talking Swahili. I don't care about 1/4 mile times, and neither should the creators of the Ecoboost Mustang, because it's not supposed to be for that. With over 300 bhp, it'll be plenty fast, but what matters to me (and probably most Ecoboost buyers) is how it feels when driven hard. If you're buying the GT, you want a more traditional Mustang. If you're buying an Ecoboost, you want a Mustang that handles as well as a proper sports car, like an FR-S/GT86, but has more style and practicality. I'd be surprised if anyone who buys an Ecoboost Mustang gives a damn about how fast it does the quarter mile. It's not about that, that's GT territory.
I am seriously considering buying an Ecoboost and I am a long time drag racer, Its fun and you don't have to have a big HP car. But I do understand where your coming from its a different market for the most part. Shame its not bigger in Europe its tons of fun and the easiest and cheapest way to go racing.
 
Quite honestly, quarter mile times and speeds mean nothing to me. You may as well be talking Swahili. I don't care about 1/4 mile times, and neither should the creators of the Ecoboost Mustang, because it's not supposed to be for that. With over 300 bhp, it'll be plenty fast, but what matters to me (and probably most Ecoboost buyers) is how it feels when driven hard. If you're buying the GT, you want a more traditional Mustang. If you're buying an Ecoboost, you want a Mustang that handles as well as a proper sports car, like an FR-S/GT86, but has more style and practicality. I'd be surprised if anyone who buys an Ecoboost Mustang gives a damn about how fast it does the quarter mile. It's not about that, that's GT territory.
It's funny as I'm almost the opposite. Most cars handle well enough for me to have fun with. I really couldn't care less how it handles on a track when 95% of the time if not 100% the time, it will be driven on streets and roads.
 
I am seriously considering buying an Ecoboost and I am a long time drag racer, Its fun and you don't have to have a big HP car. But I do understand where your coming from its a different market for the most part. Shame its not bigger in Europe its tons of fun and the easiest and cheapest way to go racing.
It's fun, but to be honest I'd have more fun karting. I'm just a guy who likes cornering. I don't look down on drag racing, it's awesome and very attainable, but it doesn't appeal to me. And if I wanted to go drag racing, I'd get the GT because it's more easily tunable and will almost certainly have that certain something that only an all American V8 has got.
It's funny as I'm almost the opposite. Most cars handle well enough for me to have fun with. I really couldn't care less how it handles on a track when 95% of the time if not 100% the time, it will be driven on streets and roads.
That's fair, but I would ask if you've actually taken a car that handles "well" and really pushed it on a twisty mountain road. Flooring a V8 is awesome, but I prefer pushing a great chassis on a genuinely challenging road. There's nothing wrong with preferring drag racing, it's pretty awesome (especially the stuff you get to see!), but I think you should give corners a legitimate try someday. If you can, go karting on a really tight, challenging track. It's tricky, but really good fun. And hopefully it won't be too expensive. Even if it is, go once, just to try it. 👍 Again, I'm not bashing drag racing, because it absolutely requires skill and is very awesome, but I personally prefer pushing a chassis rather than a drivetrain.
 
It's fun, but to be honest I'd have more fun karting. I'm just a guy who likes cornering. I don't look down on drag racing, it's awesome and very attainable, but it doesn't appeal to me. And if I wanted to go drag racing, I'd get the GT because it's more easily tunable and will almost certainly have that certain something that only an all American V8 has got.

That's fair, but I would ask if you've actually taken a car that handles "well" and really pushed it on a twisty mountain road. Flooring a V8 is awesome, but I prefer pushing a great chassis on a genuinely challenging road. There's nothing wrong with preferring drag racing, it's pretty awesome (especially the stuff you get to see!), but I think you should give corners a legitimate try someday. If you can, go karting on a really tight, challenging track. It's tricky, but really good fun. And hopefully it won't be too expensive. Even if it is, go once, just to try it. 👍 Again, I'm not bashing drag racing, because it absolutely requires skill and is very awesome, but I personally prefer pushing a chassis rather than a drivetrain.
I've pushed a couple cars around corners (not tracks) and I will admit it is indeed pretty fun. Everyone has a preference 👍
 
I've pushed a couple cars around corners (not tracks) and I will admit it is indeed pretty fun. Everyone has a preference 👍
Take a kart around a track flat out. It might not be your thing, not everyone likes it, but I think it's one of the most thrilling things you can do.
 
Take a kart around a track flat out. It might not be your thing, not everyone likes it, but I think it's one of the most thrilling things you can do.
I've done it many times and always have a blast 👍
 
Take a kart around a track flat out. It might not be your thing, not everyone likes it, but I think it's one of the most thrilling things you can do.

Thrilling? Yes. Until you realize that those little 6-inch wide Ding Dongs they call wheels aren't very progressive when loaded with 300 pounds. Then it's poo-pants territory.
 
Thrilling? Yes. Until you realize that those little 6-inch wide Ding Dongs they call wheels aren't very progressive when loaded with 300 pounds. Then it's poo-pants territory.
That's true. But under what circumstances are you putting that kind of weight onto a kart? I'd be genuinely impressed if someone who weighed 250+ pounds could even get into one of those tight seats.
 
That's true. But under what circumstances are you putting that kind of weight onto a kart? I'd be genuinely impressed if someone who weighed 250+ pounds could even get into one of those tight seats.

The circumstances are as follows:

1.) My ass
2.) Has to go in that seat.

Definitely not comfortable. Imagine the terror of all that when your back isn't even on the seatback. Instead, your lats are wedged into the side bolsters.

Wear a wife beater for bonus points.

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The circumstances are as follows:

1.) My ass
2.) Has to go in that seat.

Definitely not comfortable. Imagine the terror of all that when your back isn't even on the seatback. Instead, your lats are wedged into the side bolsters.

Wear a wife beater for bonus points.

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Ouch. Kudos to you for doing it anyway. As you say, I can't imagine that the handling's terribly sweet with that much weight in it.
 
I'd be surprised if anyone who buys an Ecoboost Mustang gives a damn about how fast it does the quarter mile. It's not about that, that's GT territory.
Mustang owners care how fast it goes. Doesn't matter which trim. In the past it was usually the v6 owners that showed the biggest douchebaggery on the streets and at meets. V8 guys knew they were fast but the v6 guys always had to defend their choice and show off.
Fast matters cause Mustang.
 
EcoBoost dyno at 276HP/286TQ for the 1st run and 275HP/291TQ for the 2nd run

 
I assume those are "Corrected" numbers.
 
20% loss for FR correct?
I have heard 10 to 18 for RWD 18 to 25 for AWD. But those are WAG I bet.
I'm trying to figure out flywheel HP.
Yeah my comment was just a random one. I always hate they dyno numbers are put out but never stated if corrected or uncorrected.
 
So Ford's advertised numbers are roughly correct. Depending on how accurate that dyno is.
 
Even though i like the new mustang, there are still some angle which made the car look weird, anyone else think the same ?

Hope the Shelby look much better than the GT.

Also 276hp in the ecoboost ? Wasn't the car advertized by Ford as having 300+ hp ?
 
Even though i like the new mustang, there are still some angle which made the car look weird, anyone else think the same ?

Hope the Shelby look much better than the GT.

Also 276hp in the ecoboost ? Wasn't the car advertized by Ford as having 300+ hp ?

That is 276hp at the rear wheels, that is more than 300hp at the crank which is where the advertising number would be from.
 
That is 276hp at the rear wheels, that is more than 300hp at the crank which is where the advertising number would be from.
Oh i see, i don't know much about this so thanks...
 
Couple guys around here are reporting that Ford has been bringing the Ecoboost to local tracks and are running 12.9s out of the box at just a tick over 100mph.

That trap speed seems awful low for the time...
C&D has the ECO running 13.9 @98, in case no one has mentioned it.
 
You lose horsepower through moving parts, so by the time it gets to the wheels, there's less of it. The more moving parts, the more you lose.
I see... Now i know the difference between xxx hp at crank, xxx hp at wheels etc.

Thanks ! Never knew what they meant before
 
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