2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

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How long has Ford been staggering engine updates with body updates? When the 5th gen came out it was another, what, two years before the 5.0 engine was released?

I'm pretty confident the next update for the engine will be Direct Injection in either the 2016 or 2017 model year.
 
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How long has Ford been staggering engine updates with body updates? When the 5th gen came out it was another, what, two years before the 5.0 engine was released?

I'm pretty confident the next update for the engine will be Direct Injection in either the 2016 or 2017 model year.
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Its hit or miss with Ford. The Windsor was pretty much carry over on every body style until '96. The SN95s had a carry over 5.0L for 94-95, the New edge 99-00 had a update that had more HP over the previous body style but the same motor 4.6 2v that came out in '96. The S197 '05 -'10s had a fresh 4.6 3v motor and the 5.0 Coyote didn't show till '11 after a 2010 body refresh/update.
 
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So I've been watching first drive videos on YouTube all morning of the Ecoboost model. Just priced one out in the nice blue color, 6-speed manual + performance package + Recaro seats = $30k. Unfortunately I just bought a car and my credit isn't that great so I think if I wait a year, pay down the GTi, sort my credit out I should be golden. Maybe pick up a used 2015 a year from now.

But I want one now. :(
 


This guy is an amateur car reviewer whom I've met at Cars and Coffee. He's not a pro but he's not bad and I think his future videos are going to get very interesting, since he's planning on buying an Ecoboost Mustang and doing a series of videos on it.
 
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This guy is an amateur car reviewer whom I've met at Cars and Coffee. He's not a pro but he's not bad and I think his future videos are going to get very interesting, since he's planning on buying an Ecoboost Mustang and doing a series of videos on it.
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Yeah, his stuff ain't bad. However, I can't take that guy seriously because he's a looks like a dead ringer of this lady that my uncle works with. Except with a haircut, of course. :lol:
 
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Its hit or miss with Ford. The Windsor was pretty much carry over on every body style until '96. The SN95s had a carry over 5.0L for 94-95, the New edge 99-00 had a update that had more HP over the previous body style but the same motor 4.6 2v that came out in '96. The S197 '05 -'10s had a fresh 4.6 3v motor and the 5.0 Coyote didn't show till '11 after a 2010 body refresh/update.
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They used 302s up until 2001-02 but not in Mustangs. They still build them in crate form.
 
Slash
They used 302s up until 2001-02 but not in Mustangs. They still build them in crate form.
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Yep in Explorers and FRPP catalog crate motors. I need to track down my old Motorsport SVO/FRPP Catalogs I have them going back to '96. I wish I had the early '90s and late '80s ones.
 
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Yep in Explorers and FRPP catalog crate motors. I need to track down my old Motorsport SVO/FRPP Catalogs I have them going back to '96. I wish I had the early '90s and late '80s ones.
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My dad still thinks Ford Racing is still called SVO :lol: I've got a few old catalogs laying around somewhere. Some of the trickery in the parts department back then was pretty cool.
 
Mustang GT Perf Pack loses on MT Head 2 Head against Camaro 1LE.

Camaro = more fun on street/track
 
Cale
Mustang GT Perf Pack loses on MT Head 2 Head against Camaro 1LE.

Camaro = more fun on street/track
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WHAT?!

*fanboy mode engaged*

Oh 🤬! Yeah, I don't like that one bit.

...I apologize for that outburst.
 
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Does it matter? The Camaro is rubbish to look at and the Mustang is eternally cool.
 
Cale
Mustang GT Perf Pack loses on MT Head 2 Head against Camaro 1LE.

Camaro = more fun on street/track
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Less fun to look at, unfortunately.
 
Just watching the way the cars moved about on the road and track in that video, I think I'd have the Camaro over the Mustang despite the Camaro's many, many awful points.
 
I can't get over how/why they decided to make the Camaro so much uglier than the bumblebee one. Worst facelift ever.

Now, doesn't anyone realize that the Camaro should handle better? The tires on that thing are massive and ridiculous. Put those wheels on a Mustang and see what handles better.

Motor Trend seems to have an enormous hard-on for these Camaros. They named the Z28 the driver's car of the year. Absolutely ridiculous.

Anyway, I would hope that Ford Racing offered some better dampers, in line with what ol' Randy suggested. I trust Pobst and the stang looked awfully fidgety. I wonder if the mustang handles better without the staggered wheels.

edit: I also think that the Mustang might be better every day if it's indeed "track-soft". It's probably perfectly taut for the streets. The last thing I'd want is a a punishing ride. Gotta hand it to GM with their strut tech though.
 
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I'd have been more curious to see a standard GT line up against a 1SS or 2SS. I think that'd definitely be advantage Ford. Track pack to track pack, the goodies that GM offers are much better for high performance, it makes a lot of sense as to why the Camaro slightly outperformed it. Still, kudos to the chassis engineers that have kept a platform relevant, and will have to keep it relevant, some 10 years after it was released.

I think anyone would be crazy to say that the Camaro looks better than the Mustang, but, the revised style has begun to grow on me. The front looks right, the tail lights aren't as horrible as how they initially seemed. But, man, the Mustang looks good. We'll see how the styling stacks up in 2016, then.

RE: Carlos and Engine Noise
Not a huge surprise. Big OHV Chevy V8 versus high-tech Ford DOHC unit, its going to sound different. All of the modulars did, and this one will too.
 
I love the sound of the modular V8's in the previous gens. Real distinct exhaust note, I can tell what's coming down the road without even looking at it.
 
Omnis
Motor Trend seems to have an enormous hard-on for these Camaros. They named the Z28 the driver's car of the year. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Just like in the early '00s they were all about Corvettes. For the 2 years I had a subscription they had a corvette article every issue.
 
Some neat Ecoboost tuning updates:

While playing with their mapping software, Cobb discovered the sound symposer in action:



The fanboys are saying these is Ford's noise/drone cancellation waves being pumped into the cabin by the speakers. I think they're full of it. Hope there's a way to disable this.

And, in other news, it looks like the Ecoboost is ripe for tuning.



Below is a before/after completely bone stock, with differences only in tuning.

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Pretty insane numbers there. 93 octane and they're still not knocking.
 
Gets rid of that dip around 5500 too.

Omnis
While playing with their mapping software, Cobb discovered the sound symposer in action:



The fanboys are saying these is Ford's noise/drone cancellation waves being pumped into the cabin by the speakers. I think they're full of it. Hope there's a way to disable this.
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A lot of cars use this now days, using microphones and the speakers to produce sound waves to cancel out "bad sounds".
 
Just the amount of counter-steer in those videos would put me off of the Mustang (though I do love the look of it).
 
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A lot of cars use this now days, using microphones and the speakers to produce sound waves to cancel out "bad sounds".
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Isn't the noise cancelling directed towards the engine, not into the cabin?
 
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