2015 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars 

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catamount39
Explain the Rebellion and CLM not being required to run a hybrid drive.
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They are in LMP1, the rest are in LMP1-H

Page 2 section 1.1 of the rules

LE MANS" PROTOTYPE ("LM" P1)

This is a racing closed car with no production minimum required.

"LE MANS" PROTOTYPE 1 category includes:
• "LE MANS" PROTOTYPE 1 : with no Energy Recovery

System (ERS) reserved only for privateers.

• "LE MANS" PROTOTYPE 1 Hybrid ("LM" P1-H): with Energy Recovery System (ERS).
 
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The money spent on a p1 non-hybrid to run 6 seconds off pace would make GT500 look like a bargain. Not to mention theyre 1020kg vs 850kg. Some teams would probably look twice and think "why not run a GT500"?
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They might, but the LMP's wouldn't be off the pace because they weren't designed and built well enough, they'd be off the pace because they are built to different constraints. It would only be a competition of whose sporting and technical regs allowed them to be fastest. These are constraints the team's are aware of well before they build a car, therefore they've already made the choice that they're happy with the potential maximum pace of the series, irrespective of how fast other series might be.
 
The rule makers are at fault. They are the ones who say the private lmp1's should or could be able to compete with the factories. But the same rules allow factory teams to spend f1-level budgets and use windtunnels for over 6000hrs (like Audi). Private teams dont get that because they dont have that luxury, they dont have those funds. Theres more that could be done to help. 850kg is too heavy. Fuel flow is too restrictive. Tank size too small. Aero (underbody) not free enough. You could go on and on.
 
WEC Nurburgring on 8/30 starts at 7-9am EST FS2 then moves to FS1 from 9am to 1pm. The start is bumped to FS2 because of MotoGP.
 
Furinkazen
3 Litre V6 twin turbo for Toyota next year.
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Sport Auto says "3.2L v6 bi-turbo", Autohebdo says "just over 3L, bi/twin turbo". Seeing a pattern here. People are worried about the sound, but Nissan has the same layout and they make a decent noise!
 
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And it's already won the 24 hours of Daytona so it has proven itself before the car has even attended it's first race.
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True, it's quite the engine. It's been through many endurance races already (1 season down, and finishing up the current season of the TUSCC).
 
catamount39
I love it! But, what about the Dome? :(
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The Dome? Well, Strakka will use it as a development tool for their future LMP1 prototype chassis, but other than that, we may very well have to wave goodbye to the S103 as a racing car. Dome is not remotely interested in joining the future LMP2 regulations, so that's out of the question... In essence, Strakka will use the car as a test mule and then probably either transform it into a LMP1 or tucking it nice and tidy in their warehouse after all the testing is done. A sad end for such a pretty car, but what can you do.
 
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The Dome? Well, Strakka will use it as a development tool for their future LMP1 prototype chassis, but other than that, we may very well have to wave goodbye to the S103 as a racing car. Dome is not remotely interested in joining the future LMP2 regulations, so that's out of the question... In essence, Strakka will use the car as a test mule and then probably either transform it into a LMP1 or tucking it nice and tidy in their warehouse. A sad end for such a pretty car, but what can you do.
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That's a shame, it was doing pretty decently this year. :( Glad to see Strakka will continue racing with that awesome paint scheme with the equally awesome open top Gibson though. 👍
 
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That's a shame, it was doing pretty decently this year. :( Glad to see Strakka will continue racing with that awesome paint scheme with the equally awesome open top Gibson though. 👍
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I guess that Strakka does not want to miss out on the remaining WEC races, either because they want to have more data for the LMP1 testing or to keep their drivers focused and well-prepared. Or perhaps both, for that matter. Using a Gibson is a curious decision, as most LMP2 races (including Le Mans) favored fixed closed roof cars such as the Ligier, but I'm sure Strakka knows what they are doing.
 
So the lorry just strayed into their lane and clipped them? I never thought holding a straight line would be so difficult these days. Glad everyone in the car was okay for the most part.

As for the upcoming 6 Hours of Nurburgring, when it was first announced I has some questions about how prototype machinery would handle the track with the large curbs and bumps. Looking at some of amateur video and on-board from the test day I infer that they will use the curbs, but not too much of them. I know on GT6, not that it's relevant here, whenever I popped up on a curb too much in my R18, my RPMs would peak and I'd experience heavy oversteer. The same would occasionally happen when I went into the 'dip' in turn 1. In the testing videos I see a few cars taking the complete apex in T1 but on the flipside a few of them ran a lane higher than the apex, allowing them to be later on the brakes in theory.

I can't wait to see how these drivers and cars will handle them in the race this upcoming weekend. I've always liked the Nurburgring GP course, now I get to see my favorite car class race there. :D

Testing videos I watched. 1 2 3

In the third video looks like a lot of them are taking the 'plunge' into turn 1. I have a strong feeling this race will have some of the hardest yet closest racing all year. The first time these cars have been here in a long while, new technology, new chassis, no previous data logs minus the test day!
 
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