2015 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

[IforceV8]

You're forgetting the Fuel loss.

So what are you saying then,Kimi would have been driving on the rims GTA style because on laps 38-40 the less than half tank of fuel would have been so great he would have been lucky to podium?

Ferrari set the bar too low and thought they were racing for 3rd place.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

Not a fan of the divebomb and force a driver to stay wide and wait, but good to see Nico with some hunger again and he did what he needed to do.

Great drive from Kimi, disappointed with Seb's race, same for Massa at the start grid. Good stuff from some of the younger, less experienced drivers once again.

Honda and especially Renault... WTF is wrong with you? Overall I quite enjoyed the race. Ferrari is getting back to their old selves again, some of the other teams still really need to pull their socks up.

 

[Jason115]

Loved how Kimi went straight for the booze but their wasn't any. Poor Kimi

 

[20832]

Didn't Ricciardo blew up his penultimate engine today? What happens when the last one blows up?

 

[mustafur]

So what are you saying then,Kimi would have been driving on the rims GTA style because on laps 38-40 the less than half tank of fuel would have been so great he would have been lucky to podium?

Ferrari set the bar too low and thought they were racing for 3rd place.

No what im saying is you can't compare laps from 20 laps prior as they had different fuel loads.

 

[Lizard]

Didn't Ricciardo blew up his penultimate engine today? What happens when the last one blows up?

If the last one blows up he gets a 10 place grid penalty for each engine used after it. I think.

 

[Dennisch]

Big round of applause for Renault performance today.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Ferrari set the bar too low and thought they were racing for 3rd place.

Probably 4th before, Vettel had to replace his wing.

 

[05XR8]

I awake just when Nico runs wide. Ahh, yes the brakes. Thems the breaks...

 

[Roo]

It happened again, the DNSing Magnussen notwithstanding.

In other news, Maldonado is now last in the championship. Not just without-points last; actual behind-Chilton-and-both-Caterhams behind-both-Manors last. That's almost an achievement in itself.

 

[Kenocar]

This race was not dull at all despite the dull circuit. It started with Massa's car unable to get going, then went to Maldonado's off track excursions, Then the Torro Rossos failing to finish, then Vettel's silly and costly mistakes which he humbly admits is his fault, then Kimi's charge to Rosberg, and that brake failure on the Mercs that caused Kimi to be sandwiched in the final results, then Ricciardo's car decided to become part of the fireworks.

 

[Grayfox]

Who is "Necco" Rosberg?

An adopted cat from japan that the Benz team own.

 

[mustafur]

Man this was another Shocking race for Maldonado race craft wise.

In the First lap he was driving like a complete blind man coverage from Kyvats car showed how all over the place he drives, and hit multiple cars such as Massa and Verstappen allthough not taking them out of the race.

Also the pre race coverage when they did a segment on Maldonado and Lotus trying to explain that he doesn't deserve the flack he gets was cringeworthy and you can see right through the lies they where speaking.

 

[ukfan758]

Man this was another Shocking race for Maldonado race craft wise.

In the First lap he was driving like a complete blind man coverage from Kyvats car showed how all over the place he drives, and hit multiple cars such as Massa and Verstappen allthough not taking them out of the race.

Also the pre race coverage when they did a segment on Maldonado and Lotus trying to explain that he doesn't deserve the flack he gets was cringeworthy and you can see right through the lies they where speaking.

Of course they won't bad mouth him, he's a pay driver. Speaking of Maldonado lets remind ourselves why he is so terrible:

 

[niky]

So what are you saying then,Kimi would have been driving on the rims GTA style because on laps 38-40 the less than half tank of fuel would have been so great he would have been lucky to podium?

Ferrari set the bar too low and thought they were racing for 3rd place.

While I felt Ferarri really did leave it off till too late... they most likely got it exactly right.

Remember, the strategy relies on the difference in pace at the end of the race, not the average difference in pace. Doesn't matter if you can mathematically catch someone... what matters is how much faster you are when you catch him.

Kimi's advantage, with tires that were six laps fresher than Nico's, was two seconds at the start of his last stint. At the end of that stint, the advantage was down to around one second.

If Kimi had pitted three laps earlier, his advantage over Nico would have been less. He would have caught up sooner, but he'd be stuck with a lower time differential and less chances of passing. And, of course, Nico would still have tires left to counterattack if he overtook early... and if he left it off till the end, he would probably only be half-a-second faster in those closing laps, with little chance of overtaking.

Whenever he pitted, he would not have had the pace left at the end to take Lewis. Yes, Lewis was experiencing the same brake problems Nico had, but by the time Raikkonen would have caught up, (EDIT) his lap time differential to Lewis would have faded away to nothing.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Of course they won't bad mouth him, he's a pay driver. Speaking of Maldonado lets remind ourselves why he is so terrible:

There's something to be said about a driver when there's a site dedicated on informing people whether he's been involved in an accident. At the least, Maldonado provides entertainment, just not the kind his fellow drivers particularly enjoy.

Ferrari set the bar too low and thought they were racing for 3rd place.

In a way, it made sense at the time. Who expected Vettel to go off during the last stint and forced to pit? Had Vettel avoided such a mistake, Kimi's march toward the front would've been impeded by either Vettel or Rosberg. In essence, Kimi avoided having to fight for that 3rd position altogether.

 

[IforceV8]

While I felt Ferarri really did leave it off till too late... they most likely got it exactly right.

Remember, the strategy relies on the difference in pace at the end of the race, not the average difference in pace. Doesn't matter if you can mathematically catch someone... what matters is how much faster you are when you catch him.

Kimi's advantage, with tires that were six laps fresher than Nico's, was two seconds at the start of his last stint. At the end of that stint, the advantage was down to around one second.

If Kimi had pitted three laps earlier, his advantage over Nico would have been less. He would have caught up sooner, but he'd be stuck with a lower time differential and less chances of passing. And, of course, Nico would still have tires left to counterattack if he overtook early... and if he left it off till the end, he would probably only be half-a-second faster in those closing laps, with little chance of overtaking.

Whenever he pitted, he would not have had the pace left at the end to take Lewis. Yes, Lewis was experiencing the same brake problems Nico had, but by the time Raikkonen would have caught up, (EDIT) his lap time differential to Lewis would have faded away to nothing.

James Allison agrees with you publicly but I still have my doubts.I would have risked it regardless because he was never going to finish lower than 3rd after Seb went off and damaged the car.

Regardless the race pace is good for Ferrari,now they need to find it in qualifying.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Remember, the strategy relies on the difference in pace at the end of the race, not the average difference in pace. Doesn't matter if you can mathematically catch someone... what matters is how much faster you are when you catch him.

As Murray Walker (roughly) said; "Catching him is one thing, getting past is another thing entirely".

James Allison agrees with you publicly but I still have my doubts.I would have risked it regardless because he was never going to finish lower than 3rd after Seb went off and damaged the car.

Yesterday after the race I was thinking why didn't Ferrari pit Kimi earlier, not least because of the GTP Fantasy Formula 1 That would have taken a huge amount of foresight that was only available in, erm, hindsight. If they'd known then what they know now etc. etc.

As it was I agree with @niky, it was all spot-on. The real shame is that this is the first race where we've really got to see what Kimi can do. After all, he knows what he's doing, you don't have to tell him every ten seconds.

 

[mikeerfol]

Perhaps the photo of the year

 

[Dennisch]

I find the artificial sparking a bit over the top.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I find the artificial sparking a bit over the top.

I think it's just a longer-than-normal exposure, if that's the moment when Rosberg lunged down the right-hand-side of Vettel into turn 1... his car really was generating a lot of sparks off-line.

I agree overall though, hate the pic

 

[SARabbit]

So great to see Kimi win the podium!

How could Kimi be so fast with medium tires?

He was even faster than Vet, Ham and Ros with soft tires.

 

[Dennisch]

I think it's just a longer-than-normal exposure, if that's the moment when Rosberg lunged down the right-hand-side of Vettel into turn 1... his car really was generating a lot of sparks off-line.

I agree overall though, hate the pic

Seeing it in motion makes it equally stupid. It's just too much.

 

[spacecowboy73]

Man this was another Shocking race for Maldonado race craft wise.

In the First lap he was driving like a complete blind man coverage from Kyvats car showed how all over the place he drives, and hit multiple cars such as Massa and Verstappen allthough not taking them out of the race.

After seeing the onboard from Kvyat's car I was almost certain Lotus was going to call Maldonado in with break trouble, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. He also ruined Massa's race from the back.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Really good race, loved all the tactical stuff at the front, So close for Alonso!

 

[ukfan758]

http://autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118616/ecclestone-italy-a-bit-like-germany
It's really sad how Bernie doesn't give a 🤬 about the European races where the history and main fanbase of the sport is, though loves adding races in Asia and the Middle East (completly ignoring the poor treatment of women and inequality in these countries compared to the west).

 

[Kenocar]

As long as they have money Bernie will take it. Keeping politics out of business is good for the business. F1 is a business first, and a competition later as they always say.

Although for Bernie's case, his antics are giving F1 bad publicity.

 

[Northstar]

(completly ignoring the poor treatment of women and inequality in these countries compared to the west).

Must we go down this road every time a race is held in the middle-east?

 

[IforceV8]

Must we go down this road every time a race is held in the middle-east?

Yeah.

 

[niky]

http://autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118616/ecclestone-italy-a-bit-like-germany
It's really sad how Bernie doesn't give a 🤬 about the European races where the history and main fanbase of the sport is, though loves adding races in Asia and the Middle East (completly ignoring the poor treatment of women and inequality in these countries compared to the west).

At least we didn't launch the crusades.

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The Middle East is a problem area, but opening up labor practices and sexual oppression in the Middle East to public scrutiny by holding more and more public events there is actually helping improve things.

Remember, the first female finalist for GT Academy came from the Middle East. Keep chipping away, and things will change. They're already changing.

Or... you could just embargo them... like Cuba or North Korea... where nothing has changed at all over the past three or four decades...