2015 NASCAR Thread - And then there was 1

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I'll probably just stick to watching the races I normally watch, which is just the 500 and the road course races. Watching the highlight reel from the remaining races is usually more than enough for me.
 
I'm just going to finish this year out in Cup, and what NASCAR says next will dictate whether or not I watch a cup race next season. If they run the "Chase for the Crapshoot" next year (and knowing NASCAR, they probably will), I won't watch a Cup race. But if they get smart and scrap it, I'll probably watch. Hell, as much as I hate the previous chase system, I'd gladly rather have that instead of this garbage (though I'd rather have a straight 36 race championship like it used to be).
 
Jahgee1124
So those of you tweeting that don't plan on watching any NASCAR races for the rest of the year, right?
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While I have no twitter (therefore I didn't start the movement, but probably inspired it...a little), I stick to what I said:

RACECAR
I'm done with Cup once Homestead is over. I just want to watch just to see Kyle Busch Make NASCAR's chase system look stupid. Afterwards, To hell with them. They can have their moronic show run by an idiot, who is fittingly encouraging everyone to be idiots.
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I usually stick to my promises.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
It's nice, but I'm sure there are many other cooler cars he could have given a superfan, rather than a somewhat quick fwd ten plus year old Chevy.
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To Be Honest, its prolly the most Valuable Monte Carlo on the face of the earth now. Just look at the tires!
 
Ehh I don't hate the chase but It could and should be changed to something else but my other problem with the other format is it encourages points racing instead of going for wins. I really don't want to hear we are 3rd just sit here and get a good points day.. I don't what but there needs to be something to make drivers push for wins. I don't know maybe 10 wins,You & your team win 10 million dollars...
 
AMPMROCKETFANN
To Be Honest, its prolly the most Valuable Monte Carlo on the face of the earth now. Just look at the tires!
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I saw those, I'm sure Junior had one or his Dad had one give to them by Chevy in their respective colors. Those would be far more worth than the Gordon.
 
ukfan758
May I nominate you for Brian France's replacement?
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That won't happen because he made a suggestion that actually makes sense. NASCAR generally seems to frown upon ideas that are actually good and make sense (except for the low downforce package- NASCAR was actually smart enough to use that one).
 
AnthonyD1993
That won't happen because he made a suggestion that actually makes sense. NASCAR generally seems to frown upon ideas that are actually good and make sense (except for the low downforce package- NASCAR was actually smart enough to use that one).
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After getting rave reviews with the low downforce package, NASCAR insisted on trying that high downforce package (twice!), which was an unmitigated disaster. Only after being relentlessly ridiculed and constantly badgered by drivers, fans, the press, and social media did NASCAR "decide" that the low downforce package was the way to go. They were the last people on earth that were on board with that decision. Please don't give NASCAR's administration too much credit for the idea. Hell, the drivers were begging for it two and three years ago.
 
Was thinking over what a better points system would possibly be. More emphasis on winning and I don't mean the emphasis NASCAR tries to get across with the current system. More emphasis on being top 3 and top 10. More emphasis on top 35, although with this system, the top 35 rule in qualifying would be gone. No safety nets on this one. Can't qualify in the 43 spots, you don't race. It could probably be adjusted slightly, but I feel this would be a better points system overall, although it most likely wouldn't make the lower teams very happy.

1st - 50pts
2nd - 35
3rd - 32
4th - 30
5th - 28
6th - 27
7th - 26
8th - 25
9th - 24
10th - 23
11th - 21
12th - 20
13th - 19
14th - 18
15th - 17
16th - 16
17th - 15
18th - 14
19th - 13
20th - 12
21st - 11
22nd - 10
23rd - 9
24th - 8
25th - 7
26th - 6
27th - 5
28th - 4
29th - 3
30th - 2
31st-35th - 1
36th-43rd - 0

Win - 5pts
Pole position - 3pts
Lead most laps - 4pts
Lead a lap - 2pts

Winner from pole with most laps led would get 64pts total.
 
Don't know if anyone's seen this but...... Tony Stewart's Costume For Halloween
 

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GTPorsche
Was thinking over what a better points system would possibly be. More emphasis on winning and I don't mean the emphasis NASCAR tries to get across with the current system. More emphasis on being top 3 and top 10. More emphasis on top 35, although with this system, the top 35 rule in qualifying would be gone. No safety nets on this one. Can't qualify in the 43 spots, you don't race. It could probably be adjusted slightly, but I feel this would be a better points system overall, although it most likely wouldn't make the lower teams very happy.

1st - 50pts
2nd - 35
3rd - 32
4th - 30
5th - 28
6th - 27
7th - 26
8th - 25
9th - 24
10th - 23
11th - 21
12th - 20
13th - 19
14th - 18
15th - 17
16th - 16
17th - 15
18th - 14
19th - 13
20th - 12
21st - 11
22nd - 10
23rd - 9
24th - 8
25th - 7
26th - 6
27th - 5
28th - 4
29th - 3
30th - 2
31st-35th - 1
36th-43rd - 0

Win - 5pts
Pole position - 3pts
Lead most laps - 4pts
Lead a lap - 2pts

Winner from pole with most laps led would get 64pts total.
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See... the majority of NASCAR fans can't do that. They got confused with the old 185 point system- which was more simple than what you have.

If you're going to have an uneven point system, make it meaningful. If you want a 50 point scale, then 1=50, 2=40, 3=35, 4=25, 5=20, 6=15, 7=14, 8=13, and so on until 20=1. No points for 21st and on. No points for leading a lap, most laps, pole, or even extra for the win (there's a reason you get 10 more points than 2nd). Also, money only pays out until 30th. Three other important rules: 1 lap down or more cars park it during GWC, Restrictor plate races are always single file restarts with no GWC, and the Chase starts out with 12 drivers and one is eliminated at the end of each race with points accumulating for the 9 races until the final race, where it's reset for the 3 contenders.

This resolves: Making winning more important, eliminating the top 35 rule (that wouldn't apply), the start and parks or "also ran", and if you're 100 laps down with a modified because of a wreck- you just park it and it helps clear out the track, and the Chase is made simple- don't be at the bottom.
 
GTPorsche
Want drivers to race for wins? Get rid of the gimmicks and make winning worth more points.
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That's it, you have my vote. NASCAR logic be damned.

GTFan24
Don't know if anyone's seen this but...... Tony Stewart's Costume For Halloween
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"I lost"

I feel like I lost by looking at it :lol:

GTFan24
How to fix NASCAR
  • Kill The Chase

The End
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Jubby
See... the majority of NASCAR fans can't do that. They got confused with the old 185 point system- which was more simple than what you have.

If you're going to have an uneven point system, make it meaningful. If you want a 50 point scale, then 1=50, 2=40, 3=35, 4=25, 5=20, 6=15, 7=14, 8=13, and so on until 20=1. No points for 21st and on. No points for leading a lap, most laps, pole, or even extra for the win (there's a reason you get 10 more points than 2nd). Also, money only pays out until 30th. Three other important rules: 1 lap down or more cars park it during GWC, Restrictor plate races are always single file restarts with no GWC, and the Chase starts out with 12 drivers and one is eliminated at the end of each race with points accumulating for the 9 races until the final race, where it's reset for the 3 contenders.

This resolves: Making winning more important, eliminating the top 35 rule (that wouldn't apply), the start and parks or "also ran", and if you're 100 laps down with a modified because of a wreck- you just park it and it helps clear out the track, and the Chase is made simple- don't be at the bottom.
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GTPorsche
I was being generous with having points top 35th. I agree with everything you said, but the chase has to go away.
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GTFan24
How to fix NASCAR
  • Kill The Chase

The End
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Unfortunately this is too logical for the France dynasty.
 
TV also needs to focus less on the "as they run" stuff and more on actually calling the race. On the backend of TV, producers and directors need to take cues from commentary as to where the cameras need to be focused. Only problem is Ken Squier and the other commentators from pre-2001 are no longer on TV and no one comes close to doing what they did.

That and it's completely unnecessary to have pre-race coverage that's longer than 20-30 minutes. If a race starts at ~20 after the hour, have coverage start at the top of that hour, not the hour prior to it.
 
GTPorsche
TV also needs to focus less on the "as they run" stuff and more on actually calling the race. On the backend of TV, producers and directors need to take cues from commentary as to where the cameras need to be focused. Only problem is Ken Squier and the other commentators from pre-2001 are no longer on TV and no one comes close to doing what they did.

That and it's completely unnecessary to have pre-race coverage that's longer than 20-30 minutes. If a race starts at ~20 after the hour, have coverage start at the top of that hour, not the hour prior to it.
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I 100% agree except with the pre-race part. ABC does that with Indycar, it's not well liked coming in with less then 30 minutes before the start and then bailing out the moment the race ends.
 

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