2016 Honda HR-V - Expected in US in Spring 2015

[YSSMAN]

Would the Jeep Renegade be considered one?

The weird thing about the Renegade is that, well, we still don't really know all that much about it - despite knowing that its coming since Spring-ish...

Absolutely, without a doubt, it will be the best of the group off-road. Especially if it is equipped with the Trailhawk package. As a cash-grab, well, I suppose it depends on how you look at it. On the one hand, people have been begging for something like this for years, but a lot of us expected a Panda-based model... Not something related to the Fiat 500L.

Where the Renegade is murky is on pricing. Realistically speaking, it is going to have to be more than a 500L, and depending on trim with that Fiat, your prices are definitely going to vary. Throw on the AWD system, and, that price has got to go up by at least $1,200 or more. A fair bet on a Trailhawk with AWD and a stick would probably be somewhere around $24-25k, although I'm most interested in seeing how they end up equipping the Latitude model for the masses. But, you get to deal with so-so FCA reliability and quality, and their cutthroat discounts. We'll see how it all looks come Spring.

 

[niky]

Everyone who's anyone is rushing in right now, and honestly, the only players that are missing right now are Ford and Hyundai. The battle that will probably play out over the next year will be:

A) Which model is less of a cash grab, and more a practical extension of what's already offered
B) What model is actually capable off-road, or in poor weather conditions
C) Where are you actually getting value for money compared to the others

Honestly, I do think Honda is going to win out on some of those - much further ahead than the Fiat 500X and Chevrolet Trax it'll probably be compared to most-frequently.

It's likely that Honda will win on A, lose badly on B and C will depend entirely on pricing.

We don't get the Dacia Duster or Trax here, but we do get the Ford EcoSport... and, despite it not being a fantastic vehicle by any means, it's cleaning up. It's posted the best "crossover" sales in this market, largely on the back of being the cheapest crossover in a market starved of affordable ones.

Whoever is first to market with a crossover at the $18k mark I'd expect these things to start at will find a good niche waiting for them... If they can fit in an AWD version at those prices, even better.

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The Renegade is an odd duck. It'll be filling in for where the Suzuki Samurai left off there, and slots in above the Samurai's Jimny successor elsewhere in the world.

It might just see good sales on perceptions that it is a much better off-roader than anything else in the class (and, yes, it probably will be)... though whether that takes sales away from other small crossovers or simply creates its own market niche and/or cannibalizes sales from within Jeep, only time will tell.

 

[eSZee]

B is irrelevant and how can Honda of all MFRs lose out on value and practicality?

 

[Keef]

Honda of all MFRs

Jeez, go easy on the name calling!

 

[YSSMAN]

B is irrelevant and how can Honda of all MFRs lose out on value and practicality?

I don't know if B is totally irrelevant, but, I think it will add sales to some over others. The Jeep will certainly be marketed on its prowess, and it will likely be the best of the bunch. But, when its often little more than a weird traction control setup pushing some power around... In places where weather actually arrives, I think people will shop a bit on the performance.

As for value and practicality, well, I suppose it really depends on how you want to quantify it. I really feel like Honda greatly over-prices their vehicles, and the value for money isn't as high as what it was 10-15 years ago. Many of the American and Japanese offerings add more features for less money, and while there are certainly issues with quality and reliability to take into consideration, Honda still has a lot to prove with their new CVT units that are now in their second year.

It'll be interesting to see how the market shakes out. Its a safe bet that the Honda HR-V will jump to the front right away, the Jeep is certainly the dark horse, and the Chevy the obvious 3rd place. Because reasons. Until Toyota and Hyundai get in the game, I don't know if we can consider this segment completely shook out.

 

[05XR8]

Details firm on new Honda SUV

Honda readies ZR-V as midway model between HR-V and CR-V

www.goauto.com.au

 

[Keef]

Apparently there is a thread for the HR-V, nice. We've already had some discussion of it in the Honda Civic thread since they're based on the same platform. But since this exists, anybody care to change the title to a general HR-V thread?

I'll cut and paste some news from the Civic thread:

The 2023 Civic CUV HR-V has debuted. It looks decent and I'm sure it will sell well. A bit boring in my opinion, same as the new Civic. It's on basically the same platform as the Civic but with available AWD.

I honestly can't bear to post any more photos than that which is fine because there aren't any.

 

[05XR8]

Honda teases 2023 CR-V

Images show styling familiar to latest Civic; petrol and hybrid drivelines expected

goauto.com.au

 

[Gerarghini]

New HR-V looks absolutely horrendous, did they get the guy who designed the Ford Escape to design this one???

 

[05XR8]

Yeah, it looks very old with Matchbox car wheels. You know, when the metal finish starts coming off the wheels.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

The North American HR-V is coming to Europe as the ZR-V, not confusing at all

2024 Honda ZR-V Revealed For Europe With Hybrid Power

North America's Honda HR-V is coming to Europe as the ZR-V and is offered exclusively with a hybrid 2.0-liter powertrain.

www.motor1.com

The Honda Z Runabout Vehicle has been on sale in Japan for close to a year and now the ZR-V has officially landed in Europe. What is it? Essentially, it's the HR-V sold in North America where the model is larger than the namesake vehicle offered on the Old Continent. In other words, the Euro-spec ZR-V fills a gap we didn't know existed between the HR-V and the CR-V.

 

[VXR]

It's not confusing for being a HRV elsewhere, it's confusing for looking like the current Escape/Kuga at a quick glance.

 

[Keef]

It's not confusing for being a HRV elsewhere, it's confusing for looking like the current Escape/Kuga at a quick glance.

It’s not a good design imo. Totally bland, nothing notable about it except that dopey little goldfish mouth.

 

[GranTurNismo]

I'm pretty indifferent to its design, but now that I've been seeing more of them, I can't get over how large it is compared to the previous-gen. At 179 inches in length and 72.5 inches in width, its ten inches longer and three inches wider than the 2016-2022 HR-V, and actually is larger than a 4th-gen CR-V. Is this really what a "subcompact CUV" is now?