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Could of saved you the heart ache and told you that
2016 Rolex Australian Grand Prix
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Could of saved you the heart ache and told you that
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What may be lost in this format mess is that Gutierrez posted a non-counting 1'26.6 in Q1, which is considerably quicker than what the Saubers and Renaults managed. Haas don't look too bad and their lowly grid placing is a bit deceiving.
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Eight teams have their drivers lining up next to one another ...
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F1 fanbase mood right now.
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That almost implies that F1 is more about the car than the driver
It's a nice observation though, it means that even with last years qualifying system we would've got similar results but would [possibly] have been able to enjoy the journey towards them more.
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True, I could sit with a bag of potato chips enjoying watching each and every driver's flying lap and got excited and anxiously waiting for their lap times unfolded one by one! it was epic, I don't know why it was changed though.. if it rains then screw it (fair/unfairness), it brings more fun and drama, unlike this old boring HAM ROS VET parade I have to face the whole year...
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I only mention it because the top ten places in the final drivers' standings at the end of last year was another case of Noah's Ark - with the drivers arranged by team.That almost implies that F1 is more about the car than the driver
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With this new format, you're shifting the action away from the end of the session. One common theme across most sports is that you can have a boring match/game/race/etc but if the finish is exciting, that's the lasting memory and fans will think that was worth the price of admission.
Talk about an utter embarrassment because just about all the feedback - from drivers to fans to media - has not been kind at all.
Talk about an utter embarrassment because just about all the feedback - from drivers to fans to media - has not been kind at all.
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Another thing to consider is given the way this new system came about, Bernie probably isn't going to go "oh well that didn't work, let's go back to the old system", he's going to go "oh well that didn't work, so clearly we need to bring in my idea of sprint races/reverse grids/time penalties." So if he manages to get his way this time round, we could end up with a significant change rather than this attempted modification.
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Well, Mr. E doesn't like it; he called it "pretty crap".
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Quelle suprise 
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Tried my best to wake up but staying up late playing football made that impossible.
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There just isn't enough time in an hour to make the format work, really. While Q1 wasn't immediately disastrous, the scramble for cars setting a good lap just felt very clumsy and difficult to follow. Even the commentators weren't keeping up and they had more information than the audience...
Great for STR to be up there in the mix though! Fingers crossed for a better race day!
Great for STR to be up there in the mix though! Fingers crossed for a better race day!
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Not being able to finish your lap makes the knockout silly, but it is the only way this silly system is feasible. Grosjean has to abort his first lap to let Mercs by and therefore runs out of time while on a lap that could put the Haas deep in midfield.
The format completely removes the late scramble at the end to put in a good lap and gives you a half assed scrap at the start. Trying to have more cars on track doesn't work with the same amount of bubblegum tyres provided that that need for the race anyway. The FIA should be disgusted with itself.
No driver, principal, engineer or diehard fan is happy with this new format.
The format completely removes the late scramble at the end to put in a good lap and gives you a half assed scrap at the start. Trying to have more cars on track doesn't work with the same amount of bubblegum tyres provided that that need for the race anyway. The FIA should be disgusted with itself.
No driver, principal, engineer or diehard fan is happy with this new format.
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I think HAAS will do just fine without it. The car seems strong and if it is as strong as it seems to show glimpses of, then I think with Romain the car will be past the two Saubers by the end of turn one. I think the more difficult challenges will be Kvyat and the Renault works team and then McLaren. But we'll see, it is silly how it ended up for HAAS but new quali for a new team, they just need to adjust going into the next GP so their not caught out next time.
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This is what I'm afraid of most since he's used this tactic in the past. If they start adding penalties for success I think I might be done with F1. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport but all these gimmicks are getting it close to the tipping point of being a farce. Success time/ballast penalties or reverse grids would push it way past the tipping point.
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I feel Bernie watched a little too much DTM. I found the "success weight ballast" from their a bit of a joke when it comes to the idea of racing. But with is being a spec series I didn't find it surprising they'd try and balance the field in such a way. Here in F1 I completely agree with you, it has no place.
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The problem is that instead of getting further attempts he's essentially limited to the first couple minutes because his car is too slow to avoid being caught by faster cars on his out lap or flying lap that he has to concede to.
It completely defeats the purpose of trying to get more cars on track, and if it'd to make qualifying more tense and your one lap more valuable, then might as well go with the most convenient thing which would be one lap qualifying which we had for four seasons already over ten years ago which has its own issues already.
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Not quite. It may be faster than the Lap Record, but there have been quicker quali laps. Vettel's 2011 lap of 1:23.529 is the fastest lap of the circuit.
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