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prisonermonkeys
This is why I don't like him:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScDjyS7SYZU">YouTube Link</a>

Totally unsporting.

I'm also under the distinct impression that he was only in title contention because of the lack of oval circuits. He's consistently poor on them.
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Funny. his brutal honesty is exactly why I like him. I probably would have done something like that too if I was in his position.

And I wasn't aware that winning at Texas last year counts as "consistently poor"
 
rjayco
So i need to ask you guys about something, would you go GWC (Green-White-Checkered) to finish a race and extend the scheduled distance or red flag the race within 10 laps to go and then finish within the scheduled distance?
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Seeing as I've grown tired of NASCAR's obssesion with GWCs and how I absolutely hate when a race ends under caution, I kinda do like the red flag that keeps the race within the race distance.

MÜLE_9242;7613452
Funny. his brutal honesty is exactly why I like him. I probably would have done something like that too if I was in his position.
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This. Guy can't get angry and show his displeasure unless he's in NASCAR or what? Given how bad Indycar's race control and officials were (and that stupid call they made that day), he had every right to do that in my book.
 
Congrats to RHR, not really a huge fan of his and would have preferred Power take the title, but credit where it's due. Congrats to Ed Carpenter for winning the race as well. Felt sorry for Tag to, not a fan of his at all, but I could tell he really wanted that win. Roll on Indycar 2013 Season.
 
That has to have been one of the greatest failures I've ever seen. Power only had to finish the race within a reasonable distance to RHR....and he binned it.
 
Just watched the re run this morning, unbelieveable stuff! Congrats to RHR and commiserations Power, whatever goes wrong at ovals he (as he said) needs to sort it out, although for incidents like at the 500 then what can you do......

Cant wait for 2013 :)
 
Nice race... As a championship finale. Drama and uncertainty till the last moment. Gutted for Power, but that's racing.

Congrats RHR!
 
Last night race had a ton of things happen, but red flag shouldn't have been brought out I think. I'm guessing they wanted to make sure no one ran over anything or any issues at all but the thing is it allowed more laps which worried some RHR folks. I almost thought he never would get to 5th, but luck played into his hands to some degree and couple near misses too.

As far as Power, I am not a fan just because I think he is a punk about somethings sometimes.
 
Actually, I suspect the red flag had more to do with wanting to clear the track so that the race would not end under yellows.
 
RACECAR
Seeing as I've grown tired of NASCAR's obssesion with GWCs and how I absolutely hate when a race ends under caution, I kinda do like the red flag that keeps the race within the race distance.

This. Guy can't get angry and show his displeasure unless he's in NASCAR or what? Given how bad Indycar's race control and officials were (and that stupid call they made that day), he had every right to do that in my book.
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Those were the middle fingers that got TGBB sacked. Every IndyCar fan is forever indebted to those fingers.
 
prisonermonkeys
This is why I don't like him:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScDjyS7SYZU">YouTube Link</a>

Totally unsporting.

I'm also under the distinct impression that he was only in title contention because of the lack of oval circuits. He's consistently poor on them.
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I was in the stands that day. :p

I love being able to hear about the bogus restart call and say "I was there".
 
The 2013 Schedule will he revealed on Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain tonight!
 


California 500 @ California Speedway, Fontana, California, United States Race Results

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Congratulations Ryan Hunter-Reay, 2012 IndyCar Series Champion! USA! USA! USA!

2013 IndyCar Series
Doubleheaders at Detroit, Toronto, and Houston! And IndyCar's Triple Crown returns! Any driver who wins all 3 races at Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Pocono Raceway, and California Speedway wins $1 million!
 
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Mac K
The 2013 Schedule will he revealed on Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain tonight!
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And here it is:

St. Petersburg - March 24
Barber - 7 April
Long Beach - 21 April
Sao Paulo - 5 May
Indianapolis - 26 May
Detroit 1 - 1 June
Detroit 2 - 2 June
Texas - 8 June
Milwaukee - 15 June
Iowa - 23 June
Pocono - 7 July
Toronto 1 - 13 July
Toronto 2 - 14 July
Mid-Ohio - 4 August
Sonoma - 25 August
Baltimore - 1 September
Houston 1 - 5 October
Houston 2 - 6 October
Fontana - 19 October

Detroit, Toronto and Houston will form a series of "double-headers", with one race each on Saturday and Sunday. The Triple Crown will also be revived, with $1 million on offer to any driver who can win Indianapolis, Pocono and Fontana (or $250,000 for anyone who can win two of the three races).

There are still some large gaps in the calendar, most notably between Baltimore and the Houston races. I've heard that Providence is still negotiating to get a spot on the calendar, but the organisers apparently want an August date.
 
So excited to see Indy back at Pocono, I only live 15 minutes from the track, I hope it stays on the schedule!
 
Not sure what I think about double headers and standing starts one day, rolling the next.
 
What Turn 4? I mostly came to comment on the fact that Pocono will be on next year's schedule. I usually think of Pocono much the same way I think of Indianapolis- the fastest road course. Pocono and Indy are obviously not road courses, but these are two of the most unconventional ovals in the United States. It will be so interesting to see Indy cars tackle Pocono. My Indy history isn't very good, so I can't remember the last time Pocono was raced on by Indy cars, or even if Champ cars took on Pocono.

Still- great to see Pocono added to the lineup for next season.
 
JohnBM01
My Indy history isn't very good, so I can't remember the last time Pocono was raced on by Indy cars, or even if Champ cars took on Pocono.
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I know that Pocono was used by CART from 1981 up until 1989, though USAC had run a race there in 1980 that had such a low turn-out for entries that Silver Crown Sprint Cars were used as field fillers! :crazy::scared::dunce:

As for the schedule, they could've done better: Add a few more ovals and natural terrain road courses, drop the Double-Header races (Or at least hold them on different circuits rather than Belle Isle, Toronto and the new Houston Street Circuit), make Pocono a 500 Mile race (As the purist in me detests the revival of something like The Triple Crown with a 400-Miler)...

Also, I can't believe that after all of that speculation the Street Race in Rhode Island came to nothing...
 
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Sam48
Not sure what I think about double headers and standing starts one day, rolling the next.
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Well, double headers is the way F2 works now, and it runs well. Standing starts will be an interesting twist to Indycar. It will make the ex-F1 boys be a bit more valued for those street circuits.
 
Kingofweasles
As for the schedule, they could've done better: Add a few more ovals and natural terrain road courses, drop the Double-Header races (Or at least hold them on different circuits rather than Belle Isle, Toronto and the new Houston Street Circuit), make Pocono a 500 Mile race (As the purist in me detests the revival of something like The Triple Crown with a 400-Miler)...
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Getting ovals is still abit of a challenge at the moment. If NASCAR is having trouble with attendances at Ovals, then its not the easiest of times for Indycar to get them. I could be wrong so don't take this completely as true but I suspect there is still abit of that Sting.
 
Am I the only one who finds the schedule a bit bland?
 
Sam48
Not sure what I think about double headers and standing starts one day, rolling the next.
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It could be pretty limiting for any team who struggles for spare parts. Heavy damage in race 1 or engine failures could get pretty expensive to be dragging the extra parts around "just in case".
You might see a few more teams/drivers not starting races due to lack of money/spares to repair damage.

It could also be quite decisive championship wise for similar reasons - I mean I'm sure Penske and Ganassi will have more than enough capacity to bring the extra parts with them, but even for them it could be a bit of an ask to strip and rebuild cars (if that scenario came about).
Speaking of which, what are the rules in Indycar on spare cars?

In other championships that feature multiple races, its quite a common sight to see competitors miss the later races due to accident damage. Especially in the WTCC and BTCC. Similar to Indycar at the moment, both series also recently switched engine regulations which resulted in some teams suffering entire race weekends being unable to start due to duff engines blowing themselves up early on. Expensive both in terms of the championship and having to lug around a spare engine "just in case"!

Personally I don't really think the GP-length races in Indycar and F1 should ever be "double-headers". Everything in the weekend should be a build up to a climax in one race. Having two races splits the excitement and half of the result is already decided.
Multi-race weekends work fine for touring cars because they run shorter races and they can take more damage. Taping up a bumper so that the car is legal is fine, you can't really do that so much in open wheel formula.
 
RACECAR
Getting ovals is still abit of a challenge at the moment. If NASCAR is having trouble with attendances at Ovals, then its not the easiest of times for Indycar to get them. I could be wrong so don't take this completely as true but I suspect there is still abit of that Sting.
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Nascar's problem is cost not lack of fans. If tickets were $10 for truck, $15 for nationwide, and maybe $35 for Cup for basic seating or lower all prices by about $10-15 bucks they would sell out alot more races. Indycar suffers from just fans because it's not the same as NASCAR so a good chunk find it boring, but as the average fan it actually has lot more to offer with less cost to you.

I would prefer to mix up races not back to back oval or road/street courses. I've enjoyed slowly getting into Indycar this year because off all
extras added even just on YouTube.

The double headers aren't a good idea for exact reasons about spare parts/cars, and wouldn't surprise me to see some guys not race as hard or at all at times. I really don't understand the reasoning overall for it and might if races were alot shorter so more sprints than full races.
 
The last time I bought a weekend grandstand ticket, it cost $110. That may vary by track.
 
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