2016 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship - Results and TalkTouring Cars 

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Yeah the bathurst channel has been awesome. The Legends program has been great but just watching the historical races has been awesome too.
 
http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/05/grm-working-new-marque-2018/
Garry Rogers Motorsport has commenced talks to bring a new manufacturer to the Supercars grid for the 2018 season.

The team’s future beyond this year is currently under a cloud thanks to conflict with Volvo over its ability to continue with its S60s.

GRM recently launched Federal Court action against Volvo in a bid to retain use of the cars and engines for a further year after the factory backing ends.

Stressing that there is not time to introduce a new marque for next year, Barry Rogers has told Speedcafe.com that the team is confident of attracting fresh factory support for 2018.

“We’re talking to a manufacturer for 2018,” Rogers told Speedcafe.com.

“It’s in its very early stages, it’s probably only five percent through the process, but it’s light at the end of the tunnel.

“It’s too late for 2017, but we’re confident that we can get something together for 2018.

“Whether that is with the people we’re currently talking to or somebody else, we believe absolutely that we’ll have something together for 2018.”

GRM has already undertaken preliminary engineering work around introducing a new marque, evaluating a number of engines and body shapes before commencing discussions.

Although declining to divulge the manufacturer in question, Rogers confirmed that GRM has targeted a four-door sedan with an engine that will take advantage of the new Gen2 regulations.

“Going through the regs, with the experience with the Volvo on the chassis side, we know what to look for,” he explained.

“So we gave our engineering group a bit of a task, going through the list of cars that are sold here now and what will be sold here in the near future.

“We’ve looked at everything from the bore and stroke of the engine to the wheelbase, comparing it to what we think is the perfect thing for the Supercars chassis.

“The boys, led by Richard (Hollway), have identified a car that is as near perfect as you could get to fit those rules.

“The body, taking into account the overhangs and all the rest of it, is even better than the Volvo and one of the engine variants looks like it wouldn’t be too stressed achieving the targets.

“We contacted that manufacturer and opened discussions with them and that’s currently where it’s up to.”

GRM’s legal action against Volvo will meanwhile commence on Friday, October 14, and could drag on into the new year.

Steadfast in the belief that they will be granted permission to continue with their Volvos, Rogers and father Garry have reassured staff that the team will find a way to carry on regardless of the outcome.

Their case revolves around alleged deceptive conduct, with GRM claiming that Volvo had made the decision not to renew the contract as early as 2014.

“The disappointing part is that we’re here to race cars and not go to court, but we really feel like we were misled in that we were given the indication that it was going to continue on,” said Rogers.

“They decided long ago that they weren’t going to continue on and we were sent on a wild goose chase.

“All we’re asking for is an opportunity to continue our business for one year.”

If it's BMW, hell just froze over.
 
If it's BMW, hell just froze over.
Well, mid-size to large 4-door sedans sold in Australia that are not Ford, Holden or Nissan. Take your pick. :lol:
 
I am going to take an early punt here and throw Kia's name into the mix.....
Maybe a bit of a long shot, but Kia's name is growing world wide, and believe they already race the Optima in the US.

I would think after the success and popularity of the Volvo GRM partnership there should be some new manufacturers very interested in teaming up with GRM.
 
I am going to take an early punt here and throw Kia's name into the mix.....
Maybe a bit of a long shot, but Kia's name is growing world wide, and believe they already race the Optima in the US.

I would think after the success and popularity of the Volvo GRM partnership there should be some new manufacturers very interested in teaming up with GRM.
Optima stopped racing a while ago I believe when PWC started allowing GT4 spec cars into the GTS class.
 
Who makes an engine that will make good power with no problem?
 
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Would the new Audi RS3 LMS be eligable it would make alot of sense if it did, audi give good support to customer teams.

Would need modification but the body is Suitable.
 
I'm looking at it from which manufacturers Barry may tick as potentials.

Passat or Jetta 2.5T?
Audi RS3, RS4, RS6
Lexus IS
Jaguar said a while back that they couldn't care about Supercars
If Barry is looking at wheelbases and engine power to make the transition and testing smoother, it says a lot.
 
Winterbottom and Canto will run a special livery for Bathurst:

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With the approach Supercars take to parity, it's not a very attractive category to new manufacturers.

I know we were bitten hard in the Group C and Group A days buy in this day and age, it certainly is possible to effectively BOP a wide range of different vehicles, which is the direction we need to go. There's just no excuse any more.
 
With the approach Supercars take to parity, it's not a very attractive category to new manufacturers.

I know we were bitten hard in the Group C and Group A days buy in this day and age, it certainly is possible to effectively BOP a wide range of different vehicles, which is the direction we need to go. There's just no excuse any more.
Group A had terrible BOP
 
Winterbottom and Canto will run a special livery for Bathurst:

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Well, that answers the Ford banner thing.


Edit: http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/05/djrtp-pays-tribute-ford-factory-workers/

“Strategy has been a bit of an Achilles Heel for us but I’m sure the team has had plenty of briefs and debriefs.

“At the end of the day if you can’t make your own strategies work you’ve just got to follow the leader.”
I wish they would have done that for a number of races this year.
 
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I don't know why you asked in the first place. Ford don't offer any financial support to teams using the Falcon. Why would those teams then go and plaster a FORD banner across the sunstrip?
DJRTP run the Ford logo on the back. Why even do that? It's because they choose to.
DJRTP are running the tribute stickers. Why do that? Because they choose to. It doesn't matter that Ford been signed off. I asked the question as a tribute to the last of the Falcon.

Why run the Falcon body next year if the car isn't even being built any longer(Especially if race fans are buying Mazda3s)? Even if Ford don't care, Dick Johnson mentioned the loyalty of his (Ford)fans. That's all.

What's going to happen with PRA in 2018? Looks like they want to stay with Ford. They will have to run a relevant car by then. Why even run a car of a company that doesn't care?
 
Why even run a car of a company that doesn't care?
Because they feel that it's the best car to run. That doesn't mean that they owe Ford any free advertising. Ford have a history of not treating customer teams particularly well. Remember when Triple Eight defected to Holden? Ford backed FPR, Dick Johnson, the Stone brothers and Triple Eight. They decided to cut funding to Johnson and Triple Eight, justifying the decision as being that both teams were large enough to be self-sustaining. It was a pretty cynical move, and Johnson only really stayed out of loyalty, but Triple Eight went elsewhere.
 
The best car to run is proven to be a T8 Holden.

T8 handled their end by removing the badges when that happened. Plus, free advertising is running that make of car. It's why Nissan ran the Altima and Volvo the S60.

Well, can't wait for 7:15am, as I took off work tomorrow.
 
Had a Bathurst dream last night. SVG tagged Scott Pye going into Hell Corner on the last lap; Pye wound up in the wall with a damaged car. McLaughlin saw it happen and moved aside to let him back through, then held station with Lowndes to prevent anyone from passing. SVG won by over a minute and a half, but got disqualified.
 
The Ford logo on the rear, and front splitter of the DJRTP cars are only there as a substitute for the Crimsafe logos I'm almost certain. Both being ovals, it's a quick fix that makes the car look a little less bare until and another sponsor for that space comes their way. The window banner is to much of a money maker in terms of sponsorship money (from memory it's one of the higher paying areas of the car for advertising), that it wouldn't be worth that loss for the teams. Also most teams would have ongoing contracts for those are particular areas, such as Actron Air for Frosty, or TSW Wheels for Chaz. Those sponsors sure as heck wouldnt want to yield a space for the biggest and most watched, and most visible race of the year.

Had a Bathurst dream last night. SVG tagged Scott Pye going into Hell Corner on the last lap; Pye wound up in the wall with a damaged car. McLaughlin saw it happen and moved aside to let him back through, then held station with Lowndes to prevent anyone from passing. SVG won by over a minute and a half, but got disqualified.

Think you've been watching Cars a bit too much there mate :lol:
 
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