2017 World Rally Championship Rally

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by Accro2008, Nov 30, 2016.

  1. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium



    January 20-22: Monte Carlo
    February 10-12: Sweden
    March 10-12: Mexico
    April 7-9: Corsica
    April 28-30: Argentina
    May 19-21: Portugal
    June 9-11: Italy
    June 30-July 2: Poland
    July 28-30: Finland
    August 18-20: Germany
    October 6-8: Spain
    October 27-29: GB
    November 17-19: Australia

    The Teams


    Drivers: Sébastien Ogier, Ott Tänak, Elfyn Evans
    Car: Ford Fiesta WRC
    Drivers: Kris Meeke, Stéphane Lefebvre, Craig Breen
    Car: Citroën C3 WRC
    Drivers: Jari-Matti Latvala, Juho Hänninen, Esapekka Lappi
    Car: Toyota Yaris WRC
    Drivers: Thierry Neuville, Hayden Paddon, Dani Sordo
    Car: Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC

    How to follow WRC :

    Redbull TV, 30 min daily highlights and a live stage on saturday :

    WRC live radio with live interviews at the end of every stage :

    WRC live results and timing (be sure to select the right event) :


    Official WRC website :

    WRC+ with live coverage, onboards, highlights, maps, telemetry, timing ... (monthly subscription) :

    New road order :
    The championship leader will only be at the front on day one, with Saturday and Sunday running the priority crews in reverse order, which means the slowest World Rally Car first.

    More rules here :
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2017
  2. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Here is the new i20 wrc 2017 :
  3. mustafur

    Australia Windsor, NSW

    That Livery makes the car look even better, but I got to say the new regulations don't exactly make the cars look much different in profile.
  4. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus
    Peru I live among you, well disguised

    Reminds me of the Peugeot 205 T16s.
  5. Even with an abysmal calendar, new cars and new drivers could still make it an interesting season. One driver I am interested to see is Esapekka Lappi, i will be very pissed if he get no seat for 2017.

    United Kingdom Birmingham, UK

  7. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus
    Peru I live among you, well disguised

    Why would he? The Polo R WRC won't be able to compete with the top machinery.
  8. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium


    United Kingdom Birmingham, UK

    Ogier won't but Dietrich Mateschitz could (or somebody with a similar idea).

    I think you mis-read, this is for the 2017 car (probably the class of the field).
  10. Legro

    Finland Finland

    Or news.

    It's merely a clickbait article based on the existing rumours.
  11. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    *Cough* Nasser Al-Attiyah *Cough* :D
    Had a few echos about that Latvala deal today, even Colin Clark started to speak about it so it might not be that far from the truth.
  12. Legro

    Finland Finland

    It does indeed seem likely as there's often something to cause these rumours, but I can't say that I've got enough information to say whether there's a deal or not, yet.

    The article, excluding the headline, which goes as far as confirming Latvala's Toyota deal before either have confirmed anything, states nothing more than what people have already stated regarding the situation, though.
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  13. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Toyota testing somewhere in Corsica, with a new weird looking rear spoiler :
  14. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus
    Peru I live among you, well disguised

  15. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Closer look of the new aero on the Yaris wrc.

    Looks like this is a "new generation" of yaris those backlights look nothing like the current model :
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  16. The Stig Farmer

    United Kingdom is actually in a field

    Good lord, this aero is ludicrous. Brilliant.
  17. Kamuifanboy

    United States Cincinnati, OH

    It looks like they literally took the HPD Indycar approach to gaining more downforce... it looks even worse than before now...
  18. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus
    Peru I live among you, well disguised

    Autosport is reporting that Latvala will be confirmed as Toyota's second driver at the team's official launch on Tuesday, with Lappi expected to be in the third car from Corsica or Portugal. Unlike Ogier, Latvala was not allowed to test the Yaris WRC before putting pen to paper on a contract - but curiously, Latvala has said that he talked to Ogier after his test, and that Ogier was not too impressed with it. So it looks like a toss-up between M-Sport or a privately-run Polo for Ogier next year.
  19. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Another amazing analysis of the current situation with a lot of informations by Colin Clark (WRC live radio) :

    One thing is sure, on the 16th we will know all the awnsers (closing date of the Rally Monte Carlo entry list).
  20. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus
    Peru I live among you, well disguised

    I can't watch videos posted to Facebook on my device. Do you have a summary of what he says, by any chance?
  21. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Yes no problem, here is a quick summary :
    - Ogier with 2 options, on one hand M-Sport on the other hand Citroën (He is currently in talk with PSA boss).
    - Confirmation of Latvala deal.
    - Toyota running 3 cars, with the second and third car shared between Hanninen, Lappi and Suninen.
    - No seat currently for Mikkelsen, one of his only option is a private 2017 M-Sport car or VW private team.
    - VW story sounds really weird and it's bad PR (In Australia, they announced they wouldn't homologuate the polo and now they do).
    - Only person that can "buy" the 2017 polos would be Al-Attiyah with the support of the Qatar. Because they would have to pay 3 time what RedBull is currently paying to support the 2016 season so around 15 millions euro.
    - If it happens the VW private team would be entirely run by VW themselves, they wouldn't let anyone else do it.
    - We will have a lot of awnsers soon.
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  22. calvins48

    Contributing Writer
    United Kingdom England

    Latvala in a Toyota means he'll be in the best-sounding car in 2017 (in my opinion). I hope Toyota does well. Their glory days in the 90s with the Celica will never be forgotten. If only the Yaris was in Castrol colours!

    Ogier could stay at VW and run the Polo R privately if things go ahead according to more rumours. But would he still have a shot at the title if the team is privately-run and not factory-run? Would the resources be available?
  23. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Today highly ranked Ford representatives are expected to have a meeting with Malcolm Wilson in Dovenby Hall at the M-Sport headquarters in a hope to bring back official ford support in WRC in 2017.

    Could this be the decision that will make Ogier signing for M-Sport ?
  24. So M-Sport will be bought up and be official Ford team? Kind of how Lotus became Renault in F1? I feel exctited.
  25. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Not really no, Ford will just help M-Sport mainly by bringing a big budget, ressources and will take care of all the media/sponsoring related stuff. (Like it was before 2013)

    Just like Bentley is paying them to develop and run the Continental GT3.
    M-Sport will always be a "private" operating structure.
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2016
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  26. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Jari-Matti Latvala testing the Yaris wrc in corsica with Hanninen :

    Last edited: Dec 8, 2016
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  27. prisonermonkeys

    Staff Emeritus
    Peru I live among you, well disguised

    I don't think that it's any coincidence that they announced it after winning both titles but before they felt the full weight of liability for the emissions scandal. It was more about saving face and appearing to be socially responsible than anything else. But now that the controversy has died down, it makes sense for them to licence the use of the car, Esperance if they want to stay in the sport.

    That strikes me as really odd, because all of the language coming from Citroën makes such an arrangement different. They won't let Ogier test without first signing a contract, and they're already committed to four drivers, so taking Ogier full-time is likely to be disruptive.
  28. Accro2008

    Belgium Belgium

    Concerning Ogier testing the C3 wrc. I think he might actually have tested it.

    This week citroën tested a few days in a completely closed off aera. Breen was testing the car for sure (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzKaeGfWQAAhl-6.jpg). But there is not pictures or infos what so ever about it besides this one.
    It would have been perfect for Ogier to test the car without anyone knowing about it.
    Why ? Because if citroën really want him, they will let him test the car. Which might explain why he is still in talk with them via the PSA big boss.

    Anyway this is pure speculation, just my mind going crazy (I need some sleep). :D
    In the end the real question is : Does citroën want to win with him or risk loosing without him ? It would be huge for a french manufacturer to win the title with a french driver.
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