2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

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Spent my out lap trying to chase a Corvette for slipstream. Was getting just about in range by the first chicane, then got too eager on the exit and lost it. Ended up with a penalty at the end so didn't set a time, started 19th. Had a mostly boring race and finished 8th. I was one of three cars to do a lap time under 4 minutes. I guess I'm going again.

Ed - @Zorz died again but I don't know if it was the wheel or not
 
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I think I'm obliged to officially hate Circuit de la Sarthe now after today. Good grief. I needn't have gone again, the second attempt was no better than the first even though I actually got to race this time. :(

I qualified P11, but dropped so many positions on lap 1 and topped it off with a nice spin, once again in front of @stpatty. The rear end on the Citroen caused me so much trouble - so little confidence coming out of corners and definitely none going through the Ford chicanes.

P18, 59 points. All I've done today is sacrifice 2.5K DR. :guilty:

...and apparently I did something wrong trying to stream it as well. Yay. :irked:
 
Didn't have any time to practice this week, so jumped in to slot 1 after 5 laps warming up.

B/S room, door 15 and qualify 10th with a very conservative lap. I was first out of the pits so no slipstream but really didn't push considering I had a clean track.

First lap was a mess. Wide at Dunlop, then behind a 3 wide mess down Mulsanne where I can't even see the braking point. Miss it and nudge someone for a 2 sec penalty. Then get a 0.5 sec for track limits towards the end of the lap.

Down to 14th but run pretty clean the rest of the way. Get up to 8th and then the pole sitter who pitted comes past me on lap 5. I get in his slip for a bit and gain 2 more places to finish 6th.

78 points, not great but better than expectations. If I'd avoided the lap 1 mistakes it could have been better but probably not by much.

I'll take it and try and practice for Suzuka on Saturday.

Actually found this combo a bit boring. The Gr1 daily race C at Le Mans a few weeks ago was much more entertaining IMO.
 
Just like @xxPinkyKissxx I was aiming for a top 8 as that would beat my current best points.
Qualy was annoying. Someone ahead slowed and as such got in my way on my flyer. As such I mucked up Tertre Rouge and got a 1 second penalty. Got passed them again on the way to Mulsanne but the lap was ruined. Cost me 2-3 seconds I estimate, but I still qualified 11th.
Unfortunately this put me right in the middle of the first Ford Chicane and facing away from the corner due to the stupid autodrive trying to maintain a grid formation. Of course having to try and turn more with cold tyres and a psycho MR car spelt disaster as I barely held a spin at the start. Thanks game! 🤬 I lost a couple of places as cars tried to swarm past. I quickly caught the cars ahead through the Dunlop chicane and it turned into a melee for the next few corners. I got a 1 second penalty for a slight tap. I eventually settled into 13th. I pulled away from those behind and kept pace albeilt 2-3 seconds back from those ahead. Lap 3 and the car decided to wake me up. I came through Tertre Rouge and got a massive tank slapper. I knew I was going round but thankfully the barrier saved me and I got going again. Lost about 4 seconds to behind and a bit more to ahead. Over the next few laps a few people pit. 1 ends up behind me and the small buffer I gain whilst they warm up their tyres keeps me ahead across the race. The former leader ends up spinning and quitting. I catch up on those ahead a bit and gain a place to someone serving a penalty. Eventually cross the line 9th just 3 seconds away from my target. Perhaps if the game gave me a better start and I didn't almost spin I'd have had it. I end up equalling my points so not too bad.
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My guy doing an Alonso wondering what could have been.
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Oh and my 8 year old son made me a livery and made me promise I would use it for this race! :lol:
He did a good job, well done to him and congrats on the result.

C/S race
Door 8
Qual 6
Fin 3
40pts
Up to 9473 driver pts. So close to B
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Went in slot 1, once again with @stpatty and @Zorz in the lobby. So, a race to avoid those dreaded track-limit penalties then? I looked set to do just that, and manage a penalty-free race, until the last lap where I cut a smidge too much of both the Dunlop Chicane, and Terte Rouge. The result? 1.5s of penalties. Dropping us from the draft of a Viper I had been working with in 5th, to 7th come the finish. As I've mentioned before, hard tyre sprints aren't great, and as much as La Sarthe is an enjoyable drive, the track-limit penalties are brutal. Frustrating, but I'll take the points and run.

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A result I'll take after a shambolic qualifying by myself to start 16th. Though I did have a code-brown level near miss, so nearly wiping out @stpatty's GT-R at Mulsanne. Stupidly braking at my usual point in draft, which was not a good idea, believe it or not :lol:.

Also, even at this DR level, I was surprised to see at least 4 or 5 people still dive into the pits on Mediums...Free places at the end of day. It also reminded me how poor the start is, if you're not in the top 4. Splits the pack up right away. Starting in the chicane on cold hards, is not pleasant.
 
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A very sloppy start, lost control immediately! Cold hards are no joke... Luckily, I wasn't the only one, but I still fell down to 14th before the starting line...oops.

At one point I got into a bit of a disagreement with a certain Viper, but managed to squeeze past, barely. He was very touchy-feely throughout the entire race... I guess he wanted me to bump draft him but I wasn't having any of it. I had better pace, he'd only slow me down. Returned the favor on the next straight and I guess we were even, or else I'm certain he woulda killed me on the next chicane.

I gained another position afterwards, a second car in front spun and I was in 4th, but then "the chicane" happened...cut the white line by literal milimeters, half second penalty.

The first part was fine I guess

...but then, disaster.

The penalty zone down the Mulsanne straight is brutal. It may only be half a second but you lose at least triple that. Lost 3 places by the end and got stuck behind the cluster for the rest of the race...it was over. Luckily, the Viper went a little too wide on the final corner and ended up behind me with a 1 second penalty. P6!

Full race (transition from roof cam to TV cam at 13:30 + penalty highlight at 20:50):


Edit: I love how the play button fits perfectly in the hood scoop. :lol: It's blocking Miku's face though! :scared:
Edit 2: ...I should mention, by pumping the gas for literally the entirety of the intro sequence, I managed to burn off 2% of my fuel before the start. Every little helps!

Livery link (created by muteXG): https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gts...lery/all/livery/1129912/1/6557834871654318097
 
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Started 3rd this time, clearly going up in the world since I was in with @GR33N and Joe Tomlin (I'm not sure on your username to tag you). Should have been fighting for the lead but apparently for this slot it was time for the track limits penalties to come out, so I ended up 7th. It's not even worth going over what happened at the last corner. I don't know that my wrists can manage a fourth attempt.
 
Don't know what's going on with the penalties, but I got 2s for being punted into a car at Mulsanne (the car stayed on track) and 1s for being turned into and hit off the inside at the second chicane, while the guy who smashed me off the track at Mulsanne on lap one got nothing.

Four times I had cars turning into me like I'm not there, despite being there for some considerable time.
 
Don't know what's going on with the penalties, but I got 2s for being punted into a car at Mulsanne (the car stayed on track) and 1s for being turned into and hit off the inside at the second chicane, while the guy who smashed me off the track at Mulsanne on lap one got nothing.

Four times I had cars turning into me like I'm not there, despite being there for some considerable time.

Was their DR lower than yours? Remember that’s how it used to be, lower DR driver got the break, higher got the pen.
 
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Don't know what's going on with the penalties, but I got 2s for being punted into a car at Mulsanne (the car stayed on track) and 1s for being turned into and hit off the inside at the second chicane, while the guy who smashed me off the track at Mulsanne on lap one got nothing.

Four times I had cars turning into me like I'm not there, despite being there for some considerable time.
It seems like the PD sindrome. The penalties were not so bad lately but they turn them worst than it was ..... again!!. :banghead::lol::lol:
 
So, any Renault drivers here today? I did a 4:04 while doing a race sim, and topped out at 275km/h. I think I'll be lucky to finish outside the Haas/Williams zone.
 
Just waiting for the race to start, I ended up qualifying 11th despite a 4-way tussle for space into the 1st Mulsanne chicane. It probably helped that 4 guys got their laps wiped for track limits. :O

EDIT: 9th place. Pretty decent considering my pedals started sliding around and I had to fight corner-exit oversteer from lap 3 onwards. A lot of people (myself included) got caught out by awkward positioning when transitioning back to player control. It really kicked off in the final lap, as I managed to turn 11th to 9th thanks to a pink Ferrari getting punted backwards into the Mulsanne gravel trap, and a Lexus dropping 2 places at the line after picking up a track limits penalty.

Suffice to say, I'm not looking forward to using the RS01 at more complex tracks. :indiff:
 
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Got a pen on the first corner so that was the end of a good qualifying lap. Started 13th.

Slowly made my way through the field and then lap 4 the leader pitted as they were on Mediums. This put @housej into the lead who went on to win! Picked up a couple of pens which ended a fight for 3rd, including one on the last few corners getting pushed wide by an NSX who turned out to not have used Hards so he got a minute penalty promoting me to 5th.

You are a clean racer, my man! As shown in the photo, we stayed side by side for a few tricky corners, normally I'd get bumped into no where but you kept your car off mine! Unfortunate about your penalties. I'm so happy with 3rd, the guy in 4th was bump drafting us right away from you after your penalties, he should have got 3rd but had an off on the last lap. Very good race. Nice job to those in 1st and 2nd too, we could not catch them even with the bump drafting, those hards had very little grip
 

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Well that didn't go quite to plan, short story is, I have only once in all my time on this track gotten a track limit penalty for cutting the last chicane on the left kurb, the end of my qualifying lap was the second time and lost what would have been 3rd on the grid. Anyway started 20th and ran a very conservative race to finish 9th and nowhere near my fastest time on hard tyres in practice, over 2sec slower. Got a strange track limit penalty during the race but forgot to save replay so can't find out why but at this track anything is possible. Disappointed with qualifying mistake but happy to finish with DR gain when it could have been a big loss.
 
Ugh, just ugh.

2nd slot - quali going great until I spent too much concentration looking behind into the Porsche curves and binned it in the sandpit, qualified 17th and last of those who set a time. Pretty good race all in all for a 12th place finish. Thought I could do better...

3rd slot, quali 4th (yay!!) span on the Ford chicane before the start (4th is NOT a good place to start), made loads of mistakes lap 1 and ended with a Beetle absolutely sending it on a Porsche in front through the Ford Chicanes, the Porsche held it but in doing so meant I had to haul on the brakes and, yep, spun again! first rage quit in a long time (but it did mean I had time for some dinner)

4th slot, quali 3rd (yay!!) thought 'oh good, i'll be clear of the chicane', however the game decided to yank me left just as the countdown timed out which somewhat surprised me, in correcting spun before the line (again) and was back in 17th. Dirt on my tyres meant an AWFUL first lap and by the start of lap 2 I was DFL, 20 seconds off the next car up. Somehow managed to pull the gap back and started passing a few people. Found a bump draft buddy in a German driving a Beetle with a garish livery (which had me on edge at first!) and we both benefitted from other's mistakes and pulled some nice overtakes for an 11th place finish for a season low 33 points.

I know I can do better, but I need to race here more to understand the start!
 
It was always going to be a tall order to get decent points in the WRX, but this didn't stop my one and only Le Mans run of the day being rather fun for what it was worth.

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Surprised by the variety on offer here, though I was the only Subaru entry in the #16 car. Other entrants included four AMGs, four Corvettes, two pairs of Astons and Ferraris respectively, and one each of a Jag, Supra, Citroën, Viper, Porsche, Alfa and even a Lancer Evo. Almost got collected by the Alfa (in Martini colours) towards the end of the warm-up session, and decided very early into qualifying that I would sacrifice slipstream for a clean, unobstructed lap. The result was a 3:58.070 with no penalties, almost 1.7 seconds up on the fastest I had done in testing. For reference, my fastest FP time was a 3:56.703 set earlier this afternoon.

Lining up 15th, I was among the majority who committed to the no-stop and had no concerns over burning up fuel on the grid formation sequence given the WRX's excellent fuel economy. Four (a black and orange Corvette, the orange AMG, the Citroën and the red Ferrari at the very back) would start on Mediums, surprisingly enough.

Problems began immediately as the orange AMG lit up the rears through the second Ford chicane, which I was lucky to ghost through as I snaked through on cold Hards. As soon as we get to the Mulsanne Straight the Evo makes up two places by drafting past me and the Porsche, though not without going off the road completely at the first chicane. Though I lost one position in the process, I hung round the back of both cars while a silver AMG closed in and gave me a couple of taps. The orange AMG on Mediums also caught up to the back of the train the next time we cleared the Ford chicanes; in his desperation to regain ground he went beyond the white line passing the Silver Arrow through the Dunlop Curve, picking up a half-second penalty.

At the Antares chicane, the Lancer fishtails across the apex, bringing me back up into 16th as the Silver Arrow finally slips by. The Orange Arrow follows suit on the run to the Porsche Curves, but spontaneously rage-quits upon receiving another penalty for running wide. By the start of Lap 3, the red Ferrari had also found his way past, but a small consolidation was the fact that the Scooby had set a purple first sector. Furthermore, the battle between the Ferrari and Porsche up front meant more opportunities to stay close and potentially regain my original position. It was once the Ferrari pulled away with the Silver Arrow that the fun really began....

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Lap 4, I get a draft on the Porsche and run side-by-side with him to the Antares chicane. There was a little scare under braking where, even with forward brake balance, my car slightly pivoted into his driver-side door, but we survived with little more than a slight bit of contact. I was slightly too far back to pull off a pass at the inside of the PlayStation chicane, but found the guts to sew one up coming into Mulsanne Corner. The next lap or so was spent exchanging places with the Porsche out of an attempt to draft our way back within range of the Silver Arrow, who picked up two penalties and at one point tried to force his way past the blue and white Ferrari. One lap from the end, the red Ferrari retires after clipping too much of the kerb at the Esses. The battle continued, but the Martini Alfa was fast approaching...

Several interesting things happened on the final lap. The first was that the Corvette on Mediums - who had spent the entire race fighting the Supra for the lead - came into the pits for his mandatory stop. There was a moment where I legitimately thought we could take advantage of his time loss in the pits, but that wasn't to be, sadly. The second was that the Alfa dipped into the 3:59s and gained enough ground to start fighting us. On Mulsanne Straight, he slipstreams and dives up my inside over the run-off area as I make another pass on the Porsche. He pulls back onto the main track as soon as we reach the braking zone, and rather than hang the Porsche to dry I decide to back out and let him fight back. I watched as the Porsche swept around the outside before the PlayStation chicane and the Alfa returned the favour heading up to Mulsanne Corner.

For whatever reason, the Alfa cut across in front of the Porsche just before we reached the kink, and the fight only got rougher from there. Again, he touches the Porsche just before Indianapolis, but the Porsche makes it through anyway. Then, coming up to the Ford chicane, the Porsche defends from the Alfa which heads for the outside over the pit entry lines. The Alfa skates over the kerb; there's bumping, bashing... and the next thing I know, it loses it over the red sausage. Granted, he had already gone in too hot in his desperate bid to grab another place, but in a way it made me extra glad to have held fire and settle for a clean, comfortable 16th behind the Porsche. Up ahead, the Silver Arrow had also lost it over the final gravel trap, but managed to reverse over the line before we could reach him!

But that's not all...

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The Citroën, one of the Medium starters, chose not to pit and so was slapped with a 60-second penalty that promoted me to 15th. It was at this point that I decided to leave it there as I felt this was the best I could do in the WRX. Generally, the car felt consistent, very kind on tyres with brake balance -3 and almost the complete opposite to the Ford GT I raced with on this combo last year. Grippier, more economical, but suffering massively on the straights as a result of its lower top-end power. Didn't detract too much, however, from an enjoyable, penalty-free run with some quality slipstream battles against that Porsche. It'll be particularly interesting to see how things work out on the Nürburgring where the WRX already feels confident in test lobbies over the Nordschleife portion.
 
Getting ready here in the Americas. I’m losing around 2 secs per lap on Hards, so 14 seconds on seven laps. But with almost 32s for a pitstop I don’t see any other way but non-stop on Hards.

anyone using Mediums?
I tried Mediums in one of my test lobbies, but found that strategy unworkable with the 30+ second time loss from pitting. If I remember correctly the Corvette who started on Mediums in my EMEA lobby fell from 1st to 14th on the last lap upon making that stop.
 
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I actually can't physically type up a recap right now (and I want to put a video up too) but in my 4th and final attempt I finished 2nd and got 196 points, my highest ever score.

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Yeah I loved that race. Shame we couldn’t catch P1 but P2, 3 & 4 nose to tail for 7 laps. My Merc didn’t quite have your top end and I knew what was coming on the last lap! Still, cracking race!

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Yeah I loved that race. Shame we couldn’t catch P1 but P2, 3 & 4 nose to tail for 7 laps. My Merc didn’t quite have your top end and I knew what was coming on the last lap! Still, cracking race!
It's amazing how much you forget about a race when it's that tight - it wasn't until watching it back I remembered you and the Mustang both got a penalty on the first lap (was yours for contact? it looked like you bumped him under braking and he just crossed the white line, very harsh either way) and then there was a lot of close bump drafting to bring us all back together before me and the Mustang got a 0.5. Pretty sure we could have caught 1st even if only one of us got a penalty there, but still a fantastic finish.
 
It's amazing how much you forget about a race when it's that tight - it wasn't until watching it back I remembered you and the Mustang both got a penalty on the first lap (was yours for contact? it looked like you bumped him under braking and he just crossed the white line, very harsh either way) and then there was a lot of close bump drafting to bring us all back together before me and the Mustang got a 0.5. Pretty sure we could have caught 1st even if only one of us got a penalty there, but still a fantastic finish.
Yeah I think I nudged him slightly with the cold tyres and I wasn’t sure if he nudged the car in front as a result or ran wide. I backed well out of it and flashed the hazards to let him know it was accidental. A slight blemish on a cracking race, but I think our racing afterwards made amends for it. Before I knew it, I looked up to see how far into the race we were and it was L5, so yeah I was fully immersed in it.
We were gaining on P1 for the first few laps actually, but then the pace seemed to even out. You both got corner cutting penalties as well later on? I didn’t save the race to view it from your angle, but on my replay it looked like a very harsh penalty!
 
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Shared the track with @stpatty and @joetoml1n in slot 3&4, I screwed up my Q laps in both. Racing at the back has always been awful for me as I'm usually too kind for the desperate racing you find there... Finished 15th in both races.

In the 5th slot I eventually put in a decent Q to make me start 4th. I took a miraculous (see why below) 2nd place (191 pts) in the end, fighting for my life in the Ford GT that has amazing top end but is still too slippery for me (even more on worn tires), as I'm still getting used to it.

One thing I learned the hard way today: don't pretend you can learn a track like this one in an hour or two before racing on it. I had never set foot at Le Mans before and I know why, those track limits that everyone was talking about are even worse than I expected.

Good Luck to those racing in Americas, time to get some rest for me (my right ankle is crying haha).
 
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Round 4, Door #12, Q'd 3rd, Finished 2nd. I thought the room was gonna crash, there were only 14 that matched for the event, and when the room opened there were only 7 left. Q went fine but I was still worried. The race started and I fell down to 5th in the first few corners and stayed there for a while. Gained a position from a pen. Running 4th, then on lap 5,1 of the leaders pitted giving me 3rd. On the last lap entering the Porsche curves, the 2nd place GTR slid into the kitty litter gifting me 2nd for my best finish in a very long time.

Edit; there was no lag seen at all in this race.
 
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