2022/23 Premier League & General Football Discussion

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PREMIER LEAGUE

Current Champions: Manchester City

2022/23 WINNERS: Manchester City

Competing In Europe
Champions League: Manchester City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur
Europa League: Arsenal, Manchester United
Conference League: West Ham United

New Teams
Came Up: Fulham, Bournemouth, Nottingham Forest

Spoiler: All Teams

Arsenal
Aston Villa
Bournemouth
Brentford
Brighton & Hove Albion
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Fulham
Leeds United
Leicester City
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Newcastle United
Nottingham Forest
Southampton
Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham United
Wolverhampton Wanderers

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CHAMPIONSHIP

Current Champions: Fulham

2022/23 WINNERS: Burnley


New Teams
Came Down: Burnley, Watford, Norwich City
Came Up: Wigan Athletic, Rotherham United, Sunderland

Spoiler: All Teams

Blackburn Rovers
Blackpool
Birmingham City
Bristol City
Cardiff City
Burnley
Coventry City
Huddersfield Town
Hull City
Luton Town
Middlesbrough
Millwall
Norwich City
Preston North End
Queen's Park Rangers
Reading
Rotherham United
Sheffield United
Stoke City
Sunderland
Swansea City
Watford
West Bromwich Albion
Wigan Atheltic

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LEAGUE ONE

Current Champions: Wigan Athletic

2022/23 WINNERS: Plymouth Argyle

New Teams
Came Down: Peterborough United, Derby County, Barnsley
Came Up: Forest Green Rovers, Exeter City, Bristol Rovers, Port Vale

Spoiler: All Teams

Accrington Stanley
Barnsley
Bolton Wanderers
Bristol Rovers
Burton Albion
Cambridge United
Charlton Athletic
Cheltenham Town
Derby County
Exeter City
Fleetwood Town
Forest Green Rovers
Ipswich Town
Lincoln City
Morcambe
Milton Keynes Dons
Oxford United
Port Vale
Peterborough United
Plymouth Argyle
Portsmouth
Sheffield Wednesday
Shrewsbury Town
Wycombe Wanderers

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LEAGUE TWO

Current Champions: Forest Green Rovers

2022/23 WINNERS: Leyton Orient

New Teams
Came Down: Gillingham, Doncaster Rovers, Wimbledon, Crewe Alexandra
Came Up: Stockport County, Grimsby Town

Spoiler: All Teams

Barrow
Bradford City

Carlisle United
Colchester United
Crawley Town
Crewe Alexandra
Doncaster Rovers
Gillingham
Grimsby Town
Harrogate Town
Hartlepool United
Leyton Orient
Mansfield Town
Newport County
Northampton Town
Rochdale
Salford City
Stevenage
Stockport County
Swindon Town
Sutton United
Tranmere Rovers
Walsall
Wimbledon

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ENGLISH SUPER CUP

Current Holders: Leicester City

2022/23 WINNERS: Liverpool

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FA CUP

Current Holders: Liverpool

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FOOTBALL LEAGUE CUP

Current Holders: Liverpool

2022/23 WINNERS: Manchester United

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FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY

Current Holders: Rotherham United

2022/23 WINNERS: Bolton Wanderers
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[MUSC4EVER]

Man United confirm that Paul Pogba and Jesse Lingard will leave club at end of June when their contracts run out.

Clear out is now under way!

 

[Liquid]

Let Jogba go for free, paid £85 million for him, then let him go for free again.

Galaxy brain. I really hope Manchester United: The Banter Years continue for a long time.

 

[Jezza819]

Let Jogba go for free, paid £85 million for him, then let him go for free again.

Galaxy brain. I really hope Manchester United: The Banter Years continue for a long time.

Yeah I love seeing the rants from The Flying Pig and others on Youtube.

 

[Liquid]

 

[andrea]

You see Pickford, you use your hands to parry the ball away from the goal.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Liverpool have rejected a second bid for Mane from Bayern thought to be around £40 million.

Newcastle have signed Matt Targett from Aston Villa permanently from Villa for £15 million.

Leeds have signed Rasmus Kristiansen from RB Slazburg for around £10 million.

Everton looking to sign James Tarkowski from Burnley on a free.

 

[Liquid]

I've only just seen that Salah and Son were last year's joint-top goalscorer. Surely Son should win it on a tiebreaker by scoring fewer penalties? In fact, he didn't score a single one.

I know scoring a penalty is not easy but it certainly should be weighted when counting a goalscoring chart.

 

[88GTA]

Leeds also signed New Jersey local Aaronson from RB Salzburg which was conditional on their remaining in the Premier League. He reunites with former Salzburg and NY Red Bull manager Marsch.

 

[Famine]

I don't particularly want to see Derby County, or any football club, die, but there is a certain justice to the position they now find themselves in:

Derby County: Chris Kirchner's takeover of financially stricken club in doubt

Chris Kirchner's attempt to buy Derby County is in danger of collapsing, despite the American understood to be confident the takeover will happen.

www.bbc.co.uk

They cheated, plain and simple, and they've been cheating for most of a decade. For some reason - and this is another complete dereliction of duty from the EFL, after they failed Wigan so absolutely by allowing them to be bought by a non-existent person, and then lied to Wednesday - Derby's accounting never came into question until 2021, despite huge, unsustainable spending and quite obviously no income to match it.

They were just... lying about it. Outgoings weren't classed as outgoings, but amortised; an £8m player might be at the club for four years and be sold for £9m, so they'd class that as a £250k income each year.

As they were clearly lying about it, owner Mel Morris sold the club's ground to himself to make ends meet in 2019. He valued it at £80m, double its previous valuation and a third more than either Hillsborough or Villa Park were valued in similar stadium sales, despite being smaller and in a less appealing area than either.

Villa, despite clearly breaching EFL FFP (£69m loss in one season against a maximum £39m permitted over three), have never faced sanctions and while Derby were charged it was dismissed - only Wednesday, the only club of the three to ask the EFL about the legality of it and for permission and only go ahead with it once assured it would cause no problems, were punished for it, and we were relegated for it!

And now their big club sale to rescue them looks like going tits up.

The rams have come home to roost, boys.


Edit: Norks very firmly northward:

Derby County: Chris Kirchner fails to meet takeover deadline for League One club

US businessman Chris Kirchner fails to meet a deadline to prove he has the funds to complete a takeover of Derby County.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Famine]

Everton: Fabian Delph, Cenk Tosun and Gylfi Sigurdsson to leave club

Fabian Delph, Cenk Tosun and Gylfi Sigurdsson will leave Everton this month after their contracts expire, the club confirms.

www.bbc.co.uk

"Three players to leave Everton at the end of their contracts. Here's some more specific details on two of them."

You can almost hear them falling over the superinjunction

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Benfica's Uruguayan Striker Darwin Nunez is close to a move to Liverpool, verbal agreement is in place and its 80 million Euros with 20 million in add ons with a five year contract, Man United were also heavily linked and interested in Nunez but never made a formal bid AFAIK.

 

[andrea]

 

[andrea]

 

[Famine]

I don't particularly want to see Derby County, or any football club, die, but there is a certain justice to the position they now find themselves in:

Derby County: Chris Kirchner's takeover of financially stricken club in doubt

Chris Kirchner's attempt to buy Derby County is in danger of collapsing, despite the American understood to be confident the takeover will happen.

www.bbc.co.uk

They cheated, plain and simple, and they've been cheating for most of a decade. For some reason - and this is another complete dereliction of duty from the EFL, after they failed Wigan so absolutely by allowing them to be bought by a non-existent person, and then lied to Wednesday - Derby's accounting never came into question until 2021, despite huge, unsustainable spending and quite obviously no income to match it.

They were just... lying about it. Outgoings weren't classed as outgoings, but amortised; an £8m player might be at the club for four years and be sold for £9m, so they'd class that as a £250k income each year.

As they were clearly lying about it, owner Mel Morris sold the club's ground to himself to make ends meet in 2019. He valued it at £80m, double its previous valuation and a third more than either Hillsborough or Villa Park were valued in similar stadium sales, despite being smaller and in a less appealing area than either.

Villa, despite clearly breaching EFL FFP (£69m loss in one season against a maximum £39m permitted over three), have never faced sanctions and while Derby were charged it was dismissed - only Wednesday, the only club of the three to ask the EFL about the legality of it and for permission and only go ahead with it once assured it would cause no problems, were punished for it, and we were relegated for it!

And now their big club sale to rescue them looks like going tits up.

The rams have come home to roost, boys.


Edit: Norks very firmly northward:

Derby County: Chris Kirchner fails to meet takeover deadline for League One club

US businessman Chris Kirchner fails to meet a deadline to prove he has the funds to complete a takeover of Derby County.

www.bbc.co.uk

The EFL now taking "urgent proactive action" to help Derby find a new owner and will "negotiate directly" with interested parties.

Bury fans said to be baffled, Wigan fans bemused.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Premier League fixtures are out, first game of the season will be Palace v Arsenal on Friday 5th August with Liverpool playing the early BT game on Saturday v Fulham, Everton v Chelsea is the Saturday night game With City beginning their title defense away to West Ham and Man United v Brighton on the Sunday, newly promoted Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest are at home to Aston Villa and away to Newcastle respectively on Saturday 3pm kick off.

Season starts a week earlier than normal because of the World Cup and there are only two game weeks in November and December.

 

[Liquid]

Wigan fans bemused.

Just a normal Thursday.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Bayern Munich have agreed a deal with Liverpool for Sadio Mane, its £35 million with Bayern paying an initial £27.5 million, its quite cheap for a player like Mane but he is in the last year of his contract at Liverpool.

Spurs have signed Yves Bissouma from Brighton for £35 million and Arsenal have signed midfielder Fabio Vieira from Porto.

As for Man United in this window so far tumbleweed

 

[sirjim73]

Bayern Munich have agreed a deal with Liverpool for Sadio Mane, its £35 million with Bayern paying an initial £27.5 million, its quite cheap for a player like Mane but he is in the last year of his contract at Liverpool.

Spurs have signed Yves Bissouma from Brighton for £35 million and Arsenal have signed midfielder Fabio Vieira from Porto.

As for Man United in this window so far tumbleweed

Arsenal sign Viera!
For some reason that rings a bell 🤔

 

[Famine]

Apropos of very little except my Twitter feed being full of footballers in pre-season training...

... but why do footballers now all wear bras in training?

 

[Liquid]

Apropos of very little except my Twitter feed being full of footballers in pre-season training...

... but why do footballers now all wear bras in training?

I think it contains the GPS mapping chip used to track their movement and performance for data analysis.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

West Ham have signed Moroccan international defender Nayef Aguerd from Ligue 1 side Rennes for £30 million.

Really hope United start signing players this week as it'll be another bad window otherwise and a lot of teams in the league have signed players whereas it seems we are just dithering, of the supposed 'big 6' only Chelsea have yet to sign anyone but they have only just completed their takeover.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Sadio Mane's move to Bayern Munich has been completed.

Newcastle are signing Burnley goalkeeper Nick Pope for £10 million, could be the bargain of the window that!

Ryan Giggs has finally stood down as Wales boss, his trial starts on 8th August.

 

[Liquid]

Ryan Giggs has finally stood down as Wales boss, his trial starts on 8th August.

Page has been in de facto charge for two years anyway. It should be a seamless transition.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Page has been in de facto charge for two years anyway. It should be a seamless transition.

Page has only got a contract until after the World Cup, I think the Giggs situation was stopping them from offering him a new one, but now Giggs has officially stood down the FAW should waste little time in giving him a five year deal or something.

 

[Famine]

Rooney to leave Derby with immediate effect

Derby County boss Wayne Rooney is to leave the relegated League One club with immediate effect.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Liquid]

Without knowing the real ins and outs, I'd give a lot of respect for Rooney staying as long as he did. Without the points deduction, they'd've stayed up. A commendable performance.

But Derby look in real trouble.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Man City agree deal with Leeds for Kalvin Phillips, its £42 million rising to £50 million, they have also agreed a deal with Arsenal for the sale of Gabriel Jesus, deal thought to be £45 million.

Newcastle close to signing Lille's Sven Botman for £37 million, he has been a target of theirs since the takeover.

I know I keep banging on about this but it is quite frustrating that United haven't made a single signing yet, some clubs are on their 2nd/3rd signing of the summer whereas United come back for pre-season next week with no new players, plus yesterday the Glazers took £11 million out of the club in dividends, United are the only Premier League club where the owners take money out.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Property developer David Clowes has bid accepted to buy Derby County and hopes the takeover will be completed on Wednesday. he bought Derby's ground Pride Park from previous owner Mel Morris on Friday. Derby appointed Liam Rosenior as interim manager following Rooney's resignation.

Transfer roundup from the last few days.

Gareth Bale looks set to join MLS side LA FC on a free on 7th July, which seems like a great move all round.
US keeper Matt Turner has completed his move to Arsenal. As Gabriel Jesus's move to the clubs edges closer.
West Ham have made a contract offer to Jesse Lingard.
Notts Forest have broken their transfer record to sign striker Taiwo Anowiyi from Hertha Berlin for £17 million.
Fulham have made an offer of around £8 million for Man United's Andreas Pereira.
Frenkie De Jong's move to Man United is getting closer and could be completed this week.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

A couple of bits of transfer news that came out of nowhere today.

Chelsea have agreed a £55 million deal with Leeds for Raphinha, it looked almost certain that he was on his way to Arsenal but Chelsea made a surprise bid which was accepted, it also looked like Chelsea were going to go in for Raheem Sterling but that seems unlikely now.

Man United have agreed a deal with Feyenoord for left back Tyrell Malacia, United had been linked with him in recent weeks and Feyenoord rejected bids from Lyon hence why United moved swiftly, the deal is 15 million Euros with 2 million in add-ons and it is thought that United would now listen to offers for Alex Telles, progress is still being made in the deal to sign De Jong and hope remains that it will be done this week.

England under-19 have made the European under 19 Championship final in Slovakia, they had a comeback 2-1 win over Italy today and will face Israel in the final on Sunday.