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Chikane_GTR
Wow just saw the results Ferrari 3 years in a role.:bowdown:

I'm calling it now unless Ferrari pulls out for next season it'll be 4 years in a role.

PD Needs to add this historic car 499p to GT7 please.\

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And Toyota continues there streak of not being able to win this race when they have competition they should be proud. :crazy:
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Bop decides the winner. Not the car.
 
Chikane_GTR
Wow just saw the results Ferrari 3 years in a role.:bowdown:

I'm calling it now unless Ferrari pulls out for next season it'll be 4 years in a role.

PD Needs to add this historic car 499p to GT7 please.\

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And Toyota continues there streak of not being able to win this race when they have competition they should be proud. :crazy:
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Ferrari might win every race remaining the way they have been going strong. I think only Porsche can top them if they get lucky
 
So, if the rest of the season's performance doesn't affect the Le Mans BoP, does Le Mans affect the rest of the season's BoP?

They made a good point on the commentary. Ferrari have now had nine new, first time Le Mans winning drivers in a row with the 499P, "You buy the car, and you win Le Mans" was I think what they said. Fair play to Ferrari for that, but also it makes a bit of a mockery of it all if the BoP is ineffective.
 
What a deception Le Mans has been for me this year. Peugeot got completely f'ed over by BoP and the car seems unable to progress as intended. I assume they'll abandon the 9X8 and I wouldn't be surprised if they switched to LMDh.

Gutted 😔
 
Ferrari AF Corse called to the stewards for the #50 Ferrari.

Possible infringement of the LMH technical regulations, with regard to articles 2.4 (Conformity to the regulations) and 3.8.7 (Deflection, i.e. the measurement of a deformation via a load test), as well as an infringement of the supplementary regulations for the 24 Hours of Le Mans (article 1.3.3: Responsibility for the conformity and safety of the cars).
 
doblocruiser
What a deception Le Mans has been for me this year. Peugeot got completely f'ed over by BoP and the car seems unable to progress as intended. I assume they'll abandon the 9X8 and I wouldn't be surprised if they switched to LMDh.

Gutted 😔
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The Peugeot is always going to be a sub-optimal design. They built it entirely around that wacky no rear wing concept and to this day it’s still a bit of an odd duck with a more conventional but still kinda small wing taped on the back.

I think Peugeot is going to need a 9x9 if they want any hope of success.
 
doblocruiser
What a deception Le Mans has been for me this year. Peugeot got completely f'ed over by BoP and the car seems unable to progress as intended. I assume they'll abandon the 9X8 and I wouldn't be surprised if they switched to LMDh.

Gutted 😔
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Me too, #94 ran a pretty much faultless race (minus getting spun by the Alpine) and the best they could do was 11th, which is quite admirable for a flawed design with arguably the worst bop of the whole field. I hope the 9x8 gets one more chance at Le Mans next year before Peugeot either pulls the plug or builds a new car.
 
Skython
Me too, #94 ran a pretty much faultless race (minus getting spun by the Alpine) and the best they could do was 11th, which is quite admirable for a flawed design with arguably the worst bop of the whole field. I hope the 9x8 gets one more chance at Le Mans next year before Peugeot either pulls the plug or builds a new car.
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Peugeot is building a new car with longterm commitment to WEC. I wouldn't be surprised if they switch to LMDh like most of that category now. The 9X8 has been a risky but gorgeous design that hadn't worked out they way they expected. Wait and see what they bring next year (last goodbye for the 9X8 or new car). I just want them to do well 🙏 and win 🤣
 
I must say I'm a bit confused by the disqualification of the #50 car.

I don't get how 1 of 2/3 identical cars can be non-compliant but the other two are - OK, I know each car is 'unique', but it seems somewhat random unless there was some clear intervention by the team to make one car different from the others, which seems very unlikely. But it also doesn't seem like an accident or random chance either - the margin of error is huge... a 52mm deflection with a permitted maximum of 15mm is massive; so it's strange how the other two cars, esp. the #51, would be so different.

The irony being that of the 3 Ferraris in the race, the apparently non-compliant one finished last anyway, so it very likely didn't translate into much of an advantage.
 
Touring Mars
I must say I'm a bit confused by the disqualification of the #50 car.

I don't get how 1 of 2/3 identical cars can be non-compliant but the other two are - OK, I know each car is 'unique', but it seems somewhat random unless there was some clear intervention by the team to make one car different from the others, which seems very unlikely. But it also doesn't seem like an accident or random chance either - the margin of error is huge... a 52mm deflection with a permitted maximum of 15mm is massive; so it's strange how the other two cars, esp. the #51, would be so different.

The irony being that of the 3 Ferraris in the race, the apparently non-compliant one finished last anyway, so it very likely didn't translate into much of an advantage.
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The spoiler mounting bolts went off on the #50 car, not on the others.
 
The BOP thing is pretty weird. Has the FIA/WEC ever attempted an engine regulation method of just limiting the total fuel teams can use during a race? I know there has been fuel flow based regulation in different motorsports over the years, and I also know that the electric power complicates things, but it seems like a total fuel allotment that's the same for every team would reward good engine design better than constantly shifting around BOP. But I don't know anything so I'm probably overlooking a ton of factors.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
The BOP thing is pretty weird. Has the FIA/WEC ever attempted an engine regulation method of just limiting the total fuel teams can use during a race? I know there has been fuel flow based regulation in different motorsports over the years, and I also know that the electric power complicates things, but it seems like a total fuel allotment that's the same for every team would reward good engine design better than constantly shifting around BOP. But I don't know anything so I'm probably overlooking a ton of factors.
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Before the BOP we had the EOT :

What are EoT and BoP? | FIAWEC

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Eunos_Cosmo
The BOP thing is pretty weird. Has the FIA/WEC ever attempted an engine regulation method of just limiting the total fuel teams can use during a race? I know there has been fuel flow based regulation in different motorsports over the years, and I also know that the electric power complicates things, but it seems like a total fuel allotment that's the same for every team would reward good engine design better than constantly shifting around BOP. But I don't know anything so I'm probably overlooking a ton of factors.
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Group C, 300-600 liters of fuel per 1000 Km. Porsche annihilated their opponents with their turbo charged 956s and 962s :D
 
I understand the complaints about BoP and have very mixed feelings about it as a concept, but equally, the car underneath still makes a difference, and still needs to be good. The Peugeot just isn't any good, designed as it was around a previous iteration of the rules, whereas the Ferrari has clearly been good since day one. I don't think it's accurate to simply say that BoP decides the winner.

The inevitable downside of a BoP formula is that the losing teams will always have a ready made excuse.
 
This is a great idea:

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GTA Boss Bandoh Opens Up on GT500 Garage 56 Dream – Sportscar365

Masaaki Bandoh pitches idea of title-winning GT500 car being handed Garage 56 slot to run in 24H Le Mans...
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I strongly believe that the GT500 cars would be slower than the Hypercars at Le Mans, despite them being faster around Fuji. Anyway, I wouldn't just give the Garage 56 slot to the GT500 champion, I'd invite the top cars of each GT500 manufacturer to give a further incentive. Maybe I'd even give out an invite to the GT300 champion - I'd take those slots from the LMP2 field, I'm sorry. As far as the GT300 champion goes, I'd mandate using a GT3 car to make life easier in case a non-GT3 would be the GT300 champion, although seeing a GT300 Supra would be great at Le Mans (says the Porsche fanboy :) ).
 
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TheHun99
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JDC-Miller Evaluating Asian Hypercar Program With Porsche – Sportscar365

Minnesota-based team eyeing potential Asian Le Mans Series campaign in 2026/27...
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Not surprising that JDC is interested. Given that AsLMS HY will be privateer only, they actually have a real chance. I wonder how many Hypercars we would/will see if ACO/FIA awards a Le Mans invite for the AsLMS HY champion.
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The JDC Porsche is probably the biggest name thrown around right now to enter the ALMS especially since they have two cars, followed by the Proton competition Porsche. Vanwall and Isotta are both also interested in this series. With Vanwall looking to run under the ByKolles name as a privateer and Isotta as we know was dropped from Duquione but if they can secure a team within the next year that could be a lock for them. It would be interesting if the #83 Ferrari and one of IMSAs DEX Cadillacs would join too as privateers.
 
TheHun99
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JDC-Miller Evaluating Asian Hypercar Program With Porsche – Sportscar365

Minnesota-based team eyeing potential Asian Le Mans Series campaign in 2026/27...
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Not surprising that JDC is interested. Given that AsLMS HY will be privateer only, they actually have a real chance. I wonder how many Hypercars we would/will see if ACO/FIA awards a Le Mans invite for the AsLMS HY champion.
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If hypercars join Asian Le Mans Series (or ELMS) that would mean the lmp2 cars have to be restricted/powered down again to make the hypercars look good...
 

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