2500 BHP Mosler 'Land Shark'

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Last month Mosler’s race-derived anniversary model, the Mosler MT900 GTR XX, went on sale boasting 600bhp in a lightweight 1111kg car. It looked to be the ultimate track day package, but design company Intense Automotive reckons it can trump that with a 2500bhp version.

Nicknamed ‘The Land Shark’, the Intense Automotive (Ed, who?) Mosler reportedly weighs just 861kg when fully loaded, 250kg lighter than the original. That’s some claim, as the stripped GTR XX also gets several fuel tanks to house its petrol, methanol, hydrogen and ethanol fuel mix.

The car’s designer, one John Gocha is claiming to have Michael Schumacher lined up for a test drive around the Nurburgring.

Gocha also intends to have the speed of the Land Shark verified by the chaps from the Guinness World Records at the Bonneville Speed Week, according to his press release. The same press release that claims the chassis can be put together by hand in 20mins... Oh, OK, we get it...

Still, we salute the effort John has put into specifying his dream car. Check it out for yourself below:

Press release (via Worldcarfans):


2009 Mosler MT900 - Engine Specs

Actual Top Speed: 305 MPH+
CFD/FEA Catia V5R19, Theoretical Physical Top Speed: 375 MPH+

0-60 MPH: 2.5 Seconds
0-150 MPH: 6.7 Seconds
0-250 MPH: 17.5 Seconds
1/4 Mile: 9.0 Seconds
1/4 Mile Speed: 178 MPH
Zero to 150 MPH and Back to Zero: 8.7
Braking: 250 MPH to Zero In 8.5 Seconds
 
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Woah, overkill much?

Schummey at the ring? Guinness top world records, seems to have everything lined up.

That said, I will believe it when I see it.
 
Does Schumacher WANT to die? How on earth can you put down 2500hp in a sports car on the Ring...
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
0-150 MPH: 6.7 Seconds
Zero to 150 MPH and Back to Zero: 8.7
Braking: 250 MPH to Zero In 8.5 Seconds
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Something looks really funny with those numbers. 2 seconds to drop from 150 to zero?

Where's that ludicrous claims thread?
 
I didn't make up those stats, mainly because the info came from PistonHeads and worldcarfans.com.
 
Der Alta
Something looks really funny with those numbers. 2 seconds to drop from 150 to zero?

Where's that ludicrous claims thread?
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Perhaps they drive it into a wall after reaching 150mph? :confused:
 
Bearing in mind an F1 car goes from 125mph to 0mph in about 2.9 secs, that's quite an achievement if true.
 
What's it gonna have on the back? 33" wrinklewall Drag tires? Because that's about what it'd need. Too much power.
 
Jim Prower
What's it gonna have on the back? 33" wrinklewall Drag tires? Because that's about what it'd need. Too much power.
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Exactly what I was thinking. This car is never, ever going to able to put all that power down without the rear wheels breaking free. Like Steve said, I'll believe it when i see it.
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
I didn't make up those stats, mainly because the info came from PistonHeads and worldcarfans.com.
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I fully believe you, and was not aiming that comment at you. I was going to submit the designer to the ludicrous claims thread. :)
 
What a funny joke. I'd personally like to know where they took the 250kg from to get the weight that low. Considering, you know, its apparently AWD and equipped with a nav system.
 
Oh, its AWD? I guess that helps it put down the power a little. Should be about like the 1900hp Escudo from GT3...but without the massive downforce. :scared:
 
Im calling shenanigans on this one.

I know im stating the obvious here, but where are they getting this 2500hp from? a jet engine?
And if they do somehow get all that power from said engine, how on earth are they going to put it down to the ground? I think its going to take something short of a full race drag tire to do so.
 
Yup saw that thing a couple days ago on a site... :D hence the avatar :lol:
 
TVR&Ferrari_Fan
Gocha also intends to have the speed of the Land Shark verified by the chaps from the Guinness World Records at the Bonneville Speed Week, according to his press release.
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I think it's bogus. The fact that he wants to test its top speed on salt flats is a ridiculous idea. Apparently he doesn't realize that tires dig into the soft salt and the extra friction means they don't get anywhere near the speed they'd be able to reach on pavement. As illustrated in Top Gear, the Corvette ZR1 didn't even get withing 30 mph of its real top speed. Plus, these Moslers make tremendous downforce which means the car tires will be pushing down with twice the force at speed, digging in that much deeper.
 
Bram Turismo
Exactly what I was thinking. This car is never, ever going to able to put all that power down without the rear wheels breaking free. Like Steve said, I'll believe it when i see it.
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It wasn't mentioned in the specs, but I'm sure it has pedals to control power.


Keef
I think it's bogus. The fact that he wants to test its top speed on salt flats is a ridiculous idea. Apparently he doesn't realize that tires dig into the soft salt and the extra friction means they don't get anywhere near the speed they'd be able to reach on pavement. As illustrated in Top Gear, the Corvette ZR1 didn't even get withing 30 mph of its real top speed. Plus, these Moslers make tremendous downforce which means the car tires will be pushing down with twice the force at speed, digging in that much deeper.
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Land speed records have been set at the flats, it's not ideal, but the faster you go, the more impractical tracks of limited size become.
 
That top speed will be like Vector's. Bogus.

I like how that article didn't even try to ask who developed the tires to do 300Mph for that.
 
Exorcet
It wasn't mentioned in the specs, but I'm sure it has pedals to control power.
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It wasn't mentioned in the specs, but I'm sure that the point of a 2500 horsepower engine is not to keep it at 50% throttle to not make the rear tires break out.
 
Bram Turismo
It wasn't mentioned in the specs, but I'm sure that the point of a 2500 horsepower engine is not to keep it at 50% throttle to not make the rear tires break out.
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And why not? I certainly don't expect the driver to floor it from 0. More throttle with more speed.
 
At 2500 Hp, I expect this car to be still spinning the wheels at rediculous speeds.
 
First things first....I've no clue how the hell this thing makes as much horsepower as it does. I can think up a couple options...neither of which make much sense or would work well....

1: gas turbine. Great for LSR, but slow spool-up makes it difficult to use on a road course...especially a relatively slow course like the 'ring Besides, a 2500HP turbine is HUGE.
2: a pro stock-spec engine. and not just any motor, but one from IHRA's "mountain Motor" formula. Could also be a Pro-mod type mill with a blower or turbos. any way you look at it, it's an engine better suited to 1/4 mile at a time. If this guy is serious (and he claims he's gonna get Schumi, so I'm calling liar, con artist at worst) and he uses something from the realm of drag racing, he's gonna get a rude awakening when the thing hand grenades on him about a mile into the Green Hell. If that.

the only other thing I can think of is a LSX which has something like....100 lbs of boost....this should hand grenade faster than the mountain motor.
 
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Exorcet
And why not? I certainly don't expect the driver to floor it from 0. More throttle with more speed.
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There's a certain point where extra power becomes useless for a track car. 2500HP just might be well past that point.
 
At least it looks good. And I said the only positive statement in the whole thread. :D
 
Jim Prower
1: gas turbine. Great for LSR, but slow spool-up makes it difficult to use on a road course...especially a relatively slow course like the 'ring Besides, a 2500HP turbine is HUGE.
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Nah, a 2500 hp gas turbine won't be THAT huge :p
When I designed my 3d dream car, I used a 2000 hp gas turbine (basically the same type of motor in a UH-60 Black Hawk). That motor, the GE T700 only weighs 485 lbs and is just under 4 ft long, 2 ft in diameter, which isn't much larger than say, a Viper V10. While on the other hand, spool up time for gas turbines depends on the engine itself. The helicopter based motor used in the Howmet TX gas turbine endurance racer used a waste gate like that found in a turbocharger. If I recall it allowed piston engine-like throttle response, thus allowing the car to be competitive on a road course without worrying about lag. I would use a similar feature in my own design in fact.

Though, unlike this... fictional Mosler I would use an AWD setup to handle 2000 hp, and even then it would require Veyron levels of tire. But even with all that, in road trim there is no way any car, not even my own design will safely exceed around 260 mph on road tires, since there is NO road legal tire capable of handling such speeds. I also don't see it being even remotely possible to install an AWD system in an MT900, given they normally use Porsche transmissions mounted aft of the engine. Good luck trying to rout a drive shaft from the very back of the car all the way to the front wheels. And how can you reduce weight while adding something as heavy as an AWD system and 2500 hp engine? Like others I must call BS on this one. The stench is strong... lol
 

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