4WD Drift/Inital D Drift

[Swift]

This. Is. Stupid.

We are totally off topic... And nothing pisses me off more than someone describing a technique as "Initial D"

I too find it annoying when someone calls a technique after Initial D. Initial D is fine. Just don't model everything in your drifting life after it. That's all.

 

[Delphic Reason]

I hereby retract all statements I've made about hating FF cars. They were unfounded, and rather uneducated. I'll admit I had little evidence driving FF in GT, and all that experience was negative dealing with massive understeer.

In GT3 I just purchased the Acura Integra Type R, and I love it. The handling of it is so much more predictable than the FRs I've driven.

And as for drifting, meh...its slow. I don't see FF drifting being used for anything other than exhibition. My experience is showing that you can't drift an FF without near constant usage of the e-brake. I think its safe to say that speed drifting with FF is an oxy moron.

I give you props for admiting you were wrong... It takes a lot to do that...

However, you can indeed slide FF's at high speed... They are indeed well suited for exhibition drifting and can achieve bigger angles than any other drivetrain, but with practice (and the right settings) you can get FF's to hold a racing line at high speed... It's not the easiest drivetrain to race drift, but it can be done...

 

[Stanley^Carter]

I give you props for admiting you were wrong... It takes a lot to do that...

However, you can indeed slide FF's at high speed... They are indeed well suited for exhibition drifting and can achieve bigger angles than any other drivetrain, but with practice (and the right settings) you can get FF's to hold a racing line at high speed... It's not the easiest drivetrain to race drift, but it can be done...

yes, you're right silviadrifter
but do keep in mind, this is only applicable in the game (GT3) only, not in real life

 

[Delphic Reason]

yes, you're right silviadrifter
but do keep in mind, this is only applicable in the game (GT3) only, not in real life

Don't jump the gun on that... None of us here are experts on FF drifting IRL, so it's unwise to make such assumptions... In theory it would be very possible...

 

[Stanley^Carter]

Don't jump the gun on that... None of us here are experts on FF drifting IRL, so it's unwise to make such assumptions... In theory it would be very possible...

I get what you mean silviadrifter, in theory it sounds possible, but I don't know how to put it actually, I'd still think its quite "illogic", I've seen some really amazing FF drift videos(some of you might've seen it too ), they can slide almost like how a FR do, but the smoothness and the speed is incomparable, since there's no power from the rear wheels to push the drift forward.... although FF uses the front wheels to actually "drag" the drifts, but its still quite impossible to gain speed in that matter...
but I guess its still possible to start a drift in high speed, hope I'm making sense here, sorry for the bad english

 

[Ethix101]

FWD cars can definitely slide and even look fairly cool doing so.
I just wouldn't call it drifting.



What was this thread about anyway?


-Mark

 

[Tokyo Drifter]

I'm sorry but I just have to say it: LOL! This made me laugh. He comes along and posts a strange thread title, with a poll that really doesn't relate to the thread title and then claims he has a video but provides no link or anything for it and then on top of everything else, he never, ever comes back to check it out and explain himself.

I'm not trying to sound offensive or anything with this but why are you guys even talking about Front-Wheel Drive drifting on his thread? Why not let it disappear since it has no point, for him anyway, and start a new thread with the debate? Just curious.

Oh, and pardon the font color if anyone has trouble reading this. I like it and it seems to show up against the background okay as near as I can tell.

 

[Sohcahtoa]

How would I pull off an FF drift in GT3? I tried to do it, and the slide starts off well and I can keep control, but I lose speed FAST and end up careening into the inside wall. Of course, this is me, who has next to no skill drifting even in an FR, trying to drift through the sharp end of Super Speedway.

 

[kikkoman]

i've been in these forums for a while and i've noticed alot of you were here long before i. i had to surrender my ps2 4 months ago so i can only assume you practice gt3 more regularly than me. that's why i belive if you can't slide an FF platform by now then you are still a novice. it is possible. it is also controllable. and yes, you can gain speed throughout the 'drift'.
i had set up a del sol to 'drift' in gt3 and it did it with ease. the car was only a tool for exhibition. it was very unstable and edgey and slid the rear out at every opportunity. i never had to use the hand brake with that car.
FF 'drifting' is regularly done in RL. has no one ever been to a rally before? the car i drive is an FF and it oversteers on negative cambered roads in the wet.
so it is possible. in RL aswell as GT3.
i'm actually really glad to see most of the FF ignorance watered down in this forum. it's very refreshing to have a mature discussion based on facts rather than name calling and mud slinging.

 

[Polarbear]

Apparently drifting in GT3 requires you to stiffen the back wheels. (eg. damper and damper bound) Not sure why thought, I've tried it on my TRD Celica. I can say it makes handling a little better when the back wheels are stiffer for some reason. I even skid sometimes-no proof though.

 

[TurboLevin2NV]

I don't really see FF cars as drift cars. I know I might offend some by saying this, sorry in advance but FF cars aren't drift cars. They're LAME, ass-dragging excuses for a drift car. Almost constant use of the side-brake is needed to drift it. Wannabe drifting to me. Takes no skill. Any moron can yank the side and drag ass out of the turn. Not to mention the HORRENDOUS speed loss when drifting an FF.

Sorry, but it's just my opinion. No offense to people who are "skilled" at FF "drifting" and like it.

 

[Delphic Reason]

although FF uses the front wheels to actually "drag" the drifts, but its still quite impossible to gain speed in that matter...
but I guess its still possible to start a drift in high speed, hope I'm making sense here, sorry for the bad english

You can't really gain much speed durring a drift (as opposed to grip) with any drivetrain, so that really isn't applicable here... You can quite easily keep most of your speed through a drift with a FF, it just takes practice and knowledge of the best techniques to do so...

 

[Stanley^Carter]

thanks silviadrifter, I'll do more research on those
and to the others forumers here, I apologize for going off topic here
won't happen again