800PS Gumpert Apollo Sport

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800PS
1220 kg
655 bhp/ton
0-100 km/h in 3.0 secs.
Vmax = 360 km/h

MSRP: 295,500 EUR excl. VAT

(Regular version below, 640PS)
 
Uhm...

It's nice...(I think the market's getting a little thick, but it's nice)
 
This car will have some serious performance capabilities under it's belt. The regular Apollo is already stupidly fast, being capable of keeping up with some sports race cars on a track if you buy it with the aero pack.
 
Really cool. I don't know much about the "normal" version, but this sounds very sweet indeed. Are they street legal?
 
I wouldn't, but that's personal prefference for you ;). I don't think the Mosler would compete with this at all on a track though. The Saleen, I don't really know enough about them to say, they have a lot of underbody aerodynamics so they do produce a lot of downforce, and they are very track capable as is the Mosler, but there's a difference betwen track capable and can compete with some GT cars in production road trim.
Really cool. I don't know much about the "normal" version, but this sounds very sweet indeed. Are they street legal?
Yes, they are street legal.
 
The S7 cant compete with this to be frank. The 640PS version will leave it behind never mind the 800ps. Remember its got as much downforce as a DTM racer.
 
Likewise, the S7 has a hell of a lot as well, more so than the S7 GT car that competes in GT1, how much that is compared to DTM I don't know (GT1 doesn't allow underbody aerodynamics which the S7 road car uses). Frankly I don't know enough about the S7 to even think about jumping to a conclusion as to where it will come racing against a car like this, I certainly wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.
 
From what I understood the the S7 is comparable to a enzo and other cars in its class. The apollo is a step above that. A road-legal racecar basically.
 
I've never seen any proper tests of the Gumpert Apollo. For all we know it's prowess could be completely fictional.
 
oh I see, are you talking about official performance figures?
That still looks pretty fast!
 
I think a german magazine tested it. L4S should be able to back it up as I quoted from it saying that theoretically the gumpert apollo is the quickest road legal car to go round the ring, or something along those lines.

Edit:

I cant find the review so dont quote me on this!
 
Meh, I I'd like to see Apollo's racing heritage with this car before i make any "better than sliced bread" assumptions.
 
I think a german magazine tested it. L4S should be able to back it up as I quoted from it saying that theoretically the gumpert apollo is the quickest road legal car to go round the ring, or something along those lines.

Edit:

I cant find the review so dont quote me on this!
I have read that before, theres a story somewhere that the apollo was timed round one layout of the Ring and they calculated that it would run it in around the 7 min mark. Gumpert themselves are keen to make a point that they believe it will break the 7 min barrier. What truth there is to the story I don't know, but the story is out there, I can't recall which publication published it.
 
Meh, I I'd like to see Apollo's racing heritage with this car before i make any "better than sliced bread" assumptions.

Personally, I would rather have this than a loaf of sliced bread. Even more than sliced bread for he rest of my life. More still than the ability to make or use sliced bread forever.

I have read that before, theres a story somewhere that the apollo was timed round one layout of the Ring and they calculated that it would run it in around the 7 min mark. Gumpert themselves are keen to make a point that they believe it will break the 7 min barrier. What truth there is to the story I don't know, but the story is out there, I can't recall which publication published it.

A little comparison:
Zonda -> 7:30
Murcielago -> 7:50
Carerra GT -> 7:32
SLR -> 7:52
Corvette -> 8:15
Viper -> 8:13
CCR ->7:34
Veyron -> 7:40

Best RING chart I found

Seven minutes is very impressive indeed. I would say that time brings it into track car and race car range.
 
Pity theres nothing new on that ring list, I've been waiting ages to update mine and I've just had the chance to today, pity I couldn't make it a double.
 
From what I understood the the S7 is comparable to a enzo and other cars in its class. The apollo is a step above that. A road-legal racecar basically.

That would be the "standard" S7 with the naturally-aspirated 7.0L Ford 427ci V8. Move up to the twin-turbo model, and you'll find sixty in about three seconds, clear the quarter-mile in less than eleven seconds, and should theoretically run up to 248 MPH, however it has never been confirmed if it can reach that level of top-speed or not. It will also easily pull 1.04g on the skidpad, and will break from 70-0 in just 154 feet. And considering that it could pass for a luxury car on the inside, I'd say that is all pretty darn good coming from an American supercar company...

The only Mosler that can keep-up is the Photon, but I'm not sure if the specs have been updated recently or not. And even then, the Photon can't go beyond 170 MPH, as it is pretty much purpose-built for the track...
 
From what I've read, the S7TT has the same gearing as the standard S7, so while it has the power to theoretically push that car to 248mph, it's gearing won't allow it to go beyond the 220's. As for the MT900Photon, as fast as that is, I doubt it would keep up with a Gumpert, I know more about the MT900 and the photon than I do about the S7 put it that way.
 
That is actually a S7R, not roadlegal at all. And considerably slower than a S7TT in a straight line.
 
What a coincedence. So is the Saleen S7.
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If you put racing slicks on the 600hp version of the apollo it will be competetive with DTM race cars. This version is even more powerful, and has a better power to wieght ratio than the saleen.

Im willing to bet that this is one of the most capable road legal cars ever built. And the Apollo is also available with a luxorious interior if you want it, just like the saleen.
 
If you put racing slicks on the 600hp version of the apollo it will be competetive with DTM race cars.
I'd hope so. DTM cars have. what, 200 horsepower less?
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This version is even more powerful, and has a better power to wieght ratio than the saleen.
Not by that much.
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Im willing to bet that this is one of the most capable road legal cars ever built.
I'd agree with that, though.
 
I'd hope so. DTM cars have. what, 200 horsepower less?
A DTM car is an oustandingly fast track machine. They have between 450 and 500bhp in general, but you should know, power isn't everything. However, this should beat a DTM car, the only area this has ever been compared to a DTM car in is the downforce it generates, ie a hell of a lol (just like the Saleen). It's actaully supposed to be comparable to GT race cars when it's on the track. But as has been said before, there's little to no information available regarding Apollo performance tests so it's all just speculation and hearsay. I don't persoanlly doubt that it's a highly capable car. One test I would love to see would be a Saleen S7TT, the apollo Sport and the TVR Cerbera Speed 12. 3 stupidly powerful cars, all with downforce equal to or greater than high level race cars and all rwd. That would be an awesome test.
 
^ I'd agree with that. None of us really know how fast any of these cars are... Well, except for the Saleen S7 TT, but even Saleen himself has said in the past that the car could be faster with slicks and a well-tested driver behind the wheel (maybe himself?).

I'd hate to completely poo-poo the Apollo, but why are they so reluctant to let people verify their performance claims? I mean, yes Bugatti has been pretty wishy-washy with letting people drive their cars, but on more than one occasion they have let them wring them out (Car and Driver and Top Gear) and have long-trip tests (Automobile and Top Gear).

Funny, because Saleen and Mosler are more than happy to let their cars go out for testing...
 
I don't think Gumpert have been that reluctant, I think it's a case that every car is sold before it's made, so once it's made the car is the customers property. So unless the customer lends the car to whoever for a test, no one will be able to test it.
 
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