A Challenge to the GT Community!

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

Its amusing how all of you are trying so hard to come up with excuses to avoid my challenge like say that "GT5 isnt a hardcore sim" and "manual on a DS3 dont feel realistic." Lame excuses folks. Of course manual transmission on a DS3 doesnt feel realistic but that also includes turning the car, braking, and pressing the gas so by your logic, you shouldnt be driving on GT5 unless you have a steering wheel. Right?
By using manual in a race, you are not only pressing the gas and brake but shifting up and down to add something else in your agenda and to add the challenge of knowing when to shift up and down.

Oh and I love the excuse of "real racers in real life use TCS" well you are correct but I see racers in GT5 that use old classics and cars that have no aids in real life with driver aids on so do you have an excuse for that one too? And regardless of whether a car in real life has driver aids, in real life, you can turn them off thus back to my challenge. Use cockpit view, manual transmission and NO aids

That's a good point. I just find that the bumper cam is the closest to how your vision behaves when you drive IRL. I don't tend to 'see' the pillars and my hands on the wheel. I can't ignore them on the screen using cockpit view, it's too distracting for me. It feels like you're sitting too far back as well, even with my wheel and rig up close to the screen.

So now another excuse to avoid the interior view. "Its too shaky." Thats just childish. When you are going at 200+ miles an hour, do you think its going to be perfectly smooth.?

 

[Vitzio]

Its amusing how all of you are trying so hard to come up with excuses to avoid my challenge like say that "GT5 isnt a hardcore sim" and "manual on a DS3 dont feel realistic." Lame excuses folks. Of course manual transmission on a DS3 doesnt feel realistic but that also includes turning the car, braking, and pressing the gas so by your logic, you shouldnt be driving on GT5 unless you have a steering wheel. Right?
By using manual in a race, you are not only pressing the gas and brake but shifting up and down to add something else in your agenda and to add the challenge of knowing when to shift up and down.

Oh and I love the excuse of "real racers in real life use TCS" well you are correct but I see racers in GT5 that use old classics and cars that have no aids in real life with driver aids on so do you have an excuse for that one too? And regardless of whether a car in real life has driver aids, in real life, you can turn them off thus back to my challenge. Use cockpit view, manual transmission and NO aids

It's their game, they'll play it how they want to. And if you don't like driving aids or people who use them, then go to rooms with driving aids turned off.

 

[C-ZETA]

Use cockpit view, manual transmission and NO aids

What if you're in a standard though?!

And I say...let anyone play how they want. Sponging is a little tight but it's OK if people wanna cheap their way through like that

Vitzio just said it best.

 

[rams1de]

I'm so hardcore than when I crash I get my wife to pound me with a sledgehammer. If it's a heavy crash, she does it while throwing acid at my face.

You're in for a world of pain if you stop taking the drugs.

 

[Famine]

You're in for a world of pain if you stop taking the drugs.

Can't take drugs. In the interests of realism, I got an MSA Licence so I could play Gran Turismo properly and drug use would see it taken off me.

Hardcore!

 

[teecro]

I am pretty sick of racing 'cocky' racers who use driver aids and think they're good. I am well aware of the hardcore GT racers who actually use no aids, interior view (Premium), and manual transmission but thats a small percentage.

Here is my challenge to all who care enough to read this: Drop the driver aids. After around level 20, you should just drop the driver aids (that includes using manual transmission and interior view.) This is a simulator. Treat it like one. Im aware that some people want to just have fun but thats just some people. The rest dont have an excuse. The rest are just lazy. If you want to get better, just answer and complete my challenge. Not just for 1 or 2 races. Make it a habit.

Its amusing how all of you are trying so hard to come up with excuses to avoid my challenge like say that "GT5 isnt a hardcore sim" and "manual on a DS3 dont feel realistic." Lame excuses folks. Of course manual transmission on a DS3 doesnt feel realistic but that also includes turning the car, braking, and pressing the gas so by your logic, you shouldnt be driving on GT5 unless you have a steering wheel. Right?
By using manual in a race, you are not only pressing the gas and brake but shifting up and down to add something else in your agenda and to add the challenge of knowing when to shift up and down.

Oh and I love the excuse of "real racers in real life use TCS" well you are correct but I see racers in GT5 that use old classics and cars that have no aids in real life with driver aids on so do you have an excuse for that one too? And regardless of whether a car in real life has driver aids, in real life, you can turn them off thus back to my challenge. Use cockpit view, manual transmission and NO aids

Read what I put in bold in your first quote, that throws your whole thread out the window.
Games are played for fun.
I'm aware that some people do play games for money, but tell me are there any big tournaments for money with GT? [I.E. Halo, Call of Duty, Gears of War, etc.]

You say you are sick of all the cocky racers who use drivers aids blah blah blah.
So that makes you think it's okay to be a cocky racer who uses the cockpit view and manual transmission?
Cocky = cocky, it's annoying.
Cockpit view. Why would I use that to be so realistic. When I drive my car, I don't see 2 sets of steering wheels and 2 sets of hands. I'll stick to bumper cam.
Driver aids. You claim in real cars you can turn them off. While you are right to an extent, there are some cars that you can't completely turn aids off on.
Like someone else said also, please join the WRS and see how you do, then feel free to do all the talking you want.
Also, back to the first quote, if YOU want to get better. Join the WRS. Guaranteed you will see a big improvement with your times in a couple weeks.
If you want to tell me how to play my game that I purchased, please send me the $60 that I paid for it and then you can tell me how to play.

By the way, yes I am a DS3 user. I use no aids except for ABS at 1.
So hate on me all you want, because remember this, I paid for MY game and I will continue to play it how I want.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

level 37
Manual
No AIDS
(ABS-1)

 

[sniper338]

I only buy standard cars (premiums have too many polygons for me) so I won't be able to accept your "pro" challenge.

 

[popcorn]

I use ABS on 1 and traction control off except on cars like the C63 AMG. I recently started usung manual. I only use cockpit when I'm driving for fun.

 

[shepzki]

I would gladly accept your challenge, sadly my DS3 is completely the wrong colour.

 

[isildur]

Its amusing how all of you are trying so hard to come up with excuses to avoid my challenge like say that "GT5 isnt a hardcore sim" and "manual on a DS3 dont feel realistic." Lame excuses folks. Of course manual transmission on a DS3 doesnt feel realistic but that also includes turning the car, braking, and pressing the gas so by your logic, you shouldnt be driving on GT5 unless you have a steering wheel. Right?
By using manual in a race, you are not only pressing the gas and brake but shifting up and down to add something else in your agenda and to add the challenge of knowing when to shift up and down.

Oh and I love the excuse of "real racers in real life use TCS" well you are correct but I see racers in GT5 that use old classics and cars that have no aids in real life with driver aids on so do you have an excuse for that one too? And regardless of whether a car in real life has driver aids, in real life, you can turn them off thus back to my challenge. Use cockpit view, manual transmission and NO aids



So now another excuse to avoid the interior view. "Its too shaky." Thats just childish. When you are going at 200+ miles an hour, do you think its going to be perfectly smooth.?

Or maybe people just do not want to take your challenge up...or they prefer to play differently to the way you suggest. There could be a whole lot of other reasons. The important thing is that you should play the way that you enjoy and others play the way they enjoy...everyone is happy.

 

[Skiddy]

ADR_XCLUTCH.. Don't be a DA snob (driving aids snob)...That's not cool.. Do you think that the new GTR is that fast because of the driver behing the wheel or the engineers who built the car. Driving aids are here to stay. I'm only using ABS set to 1 an TC with overpowerd cars (800 bhp and more), but I do not aprove of other people telling me how to play a game..

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

It's their game, they'll play it how they want to. And if you don't like driving aids or people who use them, then go to rooms with driving aids turned off.

It is their game but its my challenge. If you arent going to accept my challenge then do not reply. Im not telling anyone to do this. You are free to accept or decline my challenge.

 

[mcfizzle]

It is their game but its my challenge. If you arent going to accept my challenge then do not reply. Im not telling anyone to do this. You are free to accept or decline my challenge.

Challenge accepted. I feel so hardcore all of a sudden!

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

ADR_XCLUTCH.. Don't be a DA snob (driving aids snob)...That's not cool.. Do you think that the new GTR is that fast because of the driver behing the wheel or the engineers who built the car. Driving aids are here to stay. I'm only using ABS set to 1 an TC with overpowerd cars (800 bhp and more), but I do not aprove of other people telling me how to play a game..

I challenged the GT Community. Im not trying to force anyone to not us driver aids. A challenge can be accepted or declined so you are wrong

 

[isildur]

It is their game but its my challenge. If you arent going to accept my challenge then do not reply. Im not telling anyone to do this. You are free to accept or decline my challenge.

True it is your challenge
True you are not forcing anyone to accept
True you posted this in a public forum
True that any GT planet member can reply with their view
True their view/comment may not be what you expected

 

[teecro]

I challenged the GT Community. Im not trying to force anyone to not us driver aids. A challenge can be accepted or declined so you are wrong

Read your first post again, towards the end you make it sound more like a demand to to it.
Also you imply that the only way someone can get better is using your method.
Also, if it is only a challenge, try losing the elitist attitude.

 

[599GT]

I challenged etc etc
tl;dr

Preach, please.
I challenge you - gold S.Vettel on sixaxis controller, oh wait...you can't, nevermind about that.
^ Just an example, I'm not a douche.
You play without aids? Good, now don't tell people how to play their game.

Get rid of that attitude or at least back it up (join WRS or something like that), "elitist".

 

[teecro]

Preach, please.
I challenge you - gold S.Vettel on sixaxis controller, oh wait...you can't, nevermind about that.
^ Just an example, I'm not a douche.
You play without aids? Good, now don't tell people how to play their game.

Get rid of that attitude or at least back it up (join WRS or something like that), "elitist".

He's too scared to join the WRS because it will prove to him he's not that good.

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To the TC, with your attitude I think you are at the wrong site, please go here.

 

[599GT]

To rephrase my previous post:
OP, driving without aids is nothing special, this isn't 2010, don't act as if it's a big deal.
Yes, many people drive with SRF, TCS, ASM etc. but those are casual gamers, those players just play for fun so leave them to do so.
You play without aids, good. Don't expect a medal though because you ain't getting one.

 

[Vitzio]

It is their game but its my challenge. If you arent going to accept my challenge then do not reply. Im not telling anyone to do this. You are free to accept or decline my challenge.

Yes, I know. It was just the fact that you were "sick of cocky drivers who use driving aids and think they're good." when you said people who use driving aids are "lazy" and "afraid to race hardcore." It's just that if anyone is sounding cocky, no offense, but you are. Sure, I don't use any driving aids either, but I don't feel "hardcore" or better than people using driving aids. I'm just playing the game differently. Again, no offense, and this is just my opinion.

 

[NCRthree]

Ah c'mon man! Just enter some of the GTPlanet series that don't allow aids or post up your times on the WRS leader boards. Get yourself out of the open lobbies and join the real "hardcore" racing scene.

The "GT Communtity" challenges you-do you accept?

 

[teecro]

Ah c'mon man! Just enter some of the GTPlanet series that don't allow aids or post up your times on the WRS leader boards. Get yourself out of the open lobbies and join the real "hardcore" racing scene.

The "GT Communtity" challenges you-do you accept?

He probably doesn't want to bother with the WRS because he'll think its too much work to make a new PSN ID with the GTP in it and do the qualifier.
I'd love to see him in there with us every week proving how 'good' he is.

 

[KWZX10]

I don't see any challange in the first post to be honest.
Also, it's rare to see someone who act like a gt5 god using all aids auto etc...i see always these so called hardcore player acting like gods and bashing these "lazy" player, like you call them.

I use manual since gt2 and don't use aids, except tcs at 1 sometimes for really powerfull cars ...only because i use a ds3, anyway.
But i don't have any problem with those who use them. And i don't define myself an hardcore for that.. actually since i don't have a wheel so probably for the eyes of the hardcore players i'm just a noob.
Leave them play like they want, they're not advantaged using aids.
I tryed aids the first days with gt5 just to see what they do, but i finded them "useless for me".
They prefere to use them, they have more fun? Fine lol

Anyway i'm driving always like this and i'm almost at lv 40... hey so i'm hardcore now thanks to your challange, cool.

The only thing i wan't to say is: learn to use manual, you have more fun even with the ds3, just for that, not to be hardcore.

 

[axletramp]

I guess we can all see where this guy is coming from. I suggest we stop feeding his troll thread and move on. There's no way he's going to accept any challenge on here, let alone come out of it well.

My favourite bit was where he called me 'childish'. Pure gold.

 

[sniper338]

Is there really a difference between pro challenge guy telling us the the bumper cam and driving aids are excuses for being lazy, and others who say that using glitches on 24 hour enduros somehow wrecks the gaming experience for everyone?

 

[599GT]

Is there really a difference between pro challenge guy telling us the the bumper cam and driving aids are excuses for being lazy, and others who say that using glitches on 24 hour enduros somehow wrecks the gaming experience for everyone?

It doesn't wreck anything, it's just stupid.
Where is the need for glitching on 24h race?
- You still have to have your PS3 running for 24h
- You don't get any experience (since Nurburgring 24h is unlocked at level 40)
- You get a tiny ammount of money
- You don't need 24h Nurburgring for Platinum trophy
- The car you get (Audi R10) is available at NCD

Exactly, there is no need for glitching on 24h Nurburgring (unless you're a sick person/have a bad case of OCD).


/off topic

 

[waynz]

EDIT: ... OP .. what are challenging? ... A race or to see if we can drive without AIDS? ...

A quick question to you.. Do you know the purpose of ABS is?

 

[sniper338]

It doesn't wreck anything, it's just stupid.
Where is the need for glitching on 24h race?
- You still have to have your PS3 running for 24h
- You don't get any experience (since Nurburgring 24h is unlocked at level 40)
- You get a tiny ammount of money
- You don't need 24h Nurburgring for Platinum trophy
- The car you get (Audi R10) is available at NCD

Exactly, there is no need for glitching on 24h Nurburgring (unless you're a sick person/have a bad case of OCD).


/off topic

You play without aids? Good, now don't tell people how to play their game.

So it's ok if you tell me how to play my game, but it's not ok for pro racer guy to tell us we shouldn't use aids?

 

[MitchZ06]

5 bucks our hardcore OP hasn't ever set foot in a real race car before or even driven a car on a track....

Pretty much +1 what everyone has said.