a diffrent aproach at drifting

[Suzuki]

sweet, cant wait to see the vids.

 

[atteiros]

Popcorn anyone?

 

[Gen.]

I wasn't asking for "the funky game" proof.

Clearly your 5 years of driving would yield some evidence, or better yet some of that 12 years of tuning that clearly shines.

p.s. if you really know your stuff you would know that weight transfer is not used in gripping.....thats only for street tuned machines......

Seriously did you even think about what you said? How can weight transfer now be used? It's a constant variable that occurs when you drive your car. It's not a skill, the skill is learning to control the car to cause that weight transfer. You probably don't even know what a slip angle is now do you.

 

[Suzuki]

Popcorn anyone?

popcorn and a beer sounds good!

wait.. i dont drink beer

 

[Famine]

weight transfer is not used in gripping.....thats only for street tuned machines

and duh weight transfer is always active.....

Pick one. Your two statements are mutually exclusive.

well if you really wan't to get schooled let's talk real life tunning....not no funky game....

lets see your settings apply to your real car.

....wait acctually i rather not make you look like a fool in front of your friends...

So... what was the point of these three lines? You say you want to talk real life and then say you don't. It'd be easier if you didn't actually say anything.

thats pretty retarded that your talking about knowing and having so much experience.....and you don't even know that....haha....

you should stick to being a career adviser old man.....were tunning is my life and it's your hobby .....your knowledge can't compare.

you sir are a TOY....

and thats that

You're still assuming that people are your age. And I'd still like to know your driving credentials. Do you even have a driving licence?


Incidentally if you cannot post without insulting people, don't bother. If you continue you may find that your ability to post is removed.

it was your comments that started a dum fude thats not going to get anything solved so

Actually, it was when you said that you're as good as anyone else after 3 days of trying, and that you know more about cars than anyone else on this site.

As far as I can tell, no-one's actually been engaged in a "fude" apart from you. People have laughed at the astonishing incorrectness of some of your statements with regard to the real world and have asked you to show what you can do (both drifting and racing), and you've responded with high-horsed arrogance, a multitude of inaccuracy and insults.

*shrug*

It's nothing we've not seen here before - people whose mouths write cheques their ability can't cash.


Incidentally, if "tunning" is your life, feel free to post up some pictures of cars you've "tunned". If you could put a carton of custard in the same shot as any of the current cars, or a handwritten "I love GTP" sign with your username on it, that'd be great.

 

[Suzuki]

weight transfer is not used in gripping.....thats only for street tuned machines

and duh weight transfer is always active.....

Pick one. Your two statements are mutually exclusive.

ya know famine, i was thinking the exact same thing.
also.. my thoughts on his first comment..

p.s. if you really know your stuff you would know that weight transfer is not used in gripping.....thats only for street tuned machines......

BTW you cannot tell me there isnt some serious weight transfer going on here.. afterall it IS a race car. there is no way there will NEVER be any weight transfer going on with a car, even if it has solid suspension and tires(which is ALOT stiffer than F1, JGTC, LeMans, etc cars), weight will transfer.

 

[nk4e]

Weight Transfer is always used in Gripping and Drifting. Hell, in ordinary driving as well, please read over your post and try again.

but 5 years of driving and 12 years of working on cars.....i think i'm a little ahead of most of you...

Im sorry to do this but, where did High School go?So your around 17...what happen to childhood? Ya know playing around and acting like a kid?

well if you really wan't to get schooled let's talk real life tunning....not no funky game....

lets see your settings apply to your real car.

....wait acctually i rather not make you look like a fool in front of your friends...

and duh weight transfer is always active.....
but if you really know how to tune you would know why people try to reduce wieght transfer....and how.
thats pretty retarded that your talking about knowing and having so much experience.....and you don't even know that....haha....

you should stick to being a career adviser old man.....were tunning is my life and it's your hobby .....your knowledge can't compare.

you sir are a TOY....

and thats that


p.s. i was never in this forum to talk down to people i was always here to help ....it was your comments that started a dum fude thats not going to get anything solved so........say what you wan't i'm done ....your right i'm wrong you know everything i don't......i will end this here,who cares not me....

I thought that the ASE would have mechanics with good grammar?Tunning= Tuning.And you just bash people when you have the chance.You don't give them a chance to speak but instead you put in all one post and let Swift or the others get mad at you. I wish Shadow Drifter was here, or at least DR or Thio...well there is Battle Stage, Exhuast N0te...ok I will stop Rambling.But if you are an expert, maybe you should help me then. How do you kick the rear more than the Front in a AWD (a good choice would be a 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Spec.C)? But the problem is that you can't have AID(s) on, no unbalanced tires and a range of stock-400HP. And Yes, I do watch Initial D too much and they don't teach you about LSD settings or Spring rate explaination. But it some what came to a place that I only understand how a turbo works, how the ALS system works for Rally cars and what not. I forgot to mention....I LOVE INITIAL D. But you never told us what was the different approach, aside from the various techniques that was giving to us. did I mention that I LOVE INITIAL D?

what i mean is run the car to it's limit but don't stress youself about being the fastest.....worry about how the car "feels"
1.make sure the car is fun to drive.
2.Know your limit for oversteer and understeer.
3.adjust your car after practicing time attack
4.make it loose enought for you to drift.

Don't we all do that?

 

[nk4e]

WOW I made a mistake ^^" my bad^^"

 

[Specialized]

Nuisance, Nonsence or whatever your name is;

Firstly....Grow up. This thread started out with some pretty obvious statements by yourself, ok they are statements which you thought could help the GTP community and thats all good. As soon as somebody disagreed or questioned your, so called, skillfull drifting you jump of the rails. Why not just prove everybody wrong? Post a vid or something up, its not hard and if you really want PM me for advice and tips on getting some footage onto GTP.

Secondly .... I am willing to bet you my brothers girlfriend that you are not as skilled as half of the experienced drifters on here. If you really wanna see some quality drifting check out FBI's videos (if they are still around) or Boundary Layers. Team DD also are great drifters but im not sure if they got drift vids knocking around on here.

Thirdly.... Its not wise to insult members of GTP. Its rude, disrespectful and will got gain you any popularity points either. You are being advised by some great drifters on here and Famine and Swift do know what they are talking about and are trusted members of GTP so you would do well to take their advice seriously.

Fourthly (is fourthly a real word?) .... Just becuase you know how to tune a car in real life has pretty much bugger all to do with GTP set ups. Yes you would know that what the different components do etc and you would understand what lowering a car does but this is a video game and no matter how good the game it will be a long time before direct comparisons can be made between a game a RL. There have been a few threads alread on comparisons to GTP and RL set ups and all that i know came to the same conclusion.

Fithly.... Just becuase you have been driving for 5 years doesnt mean bugger all, i know people who have been driving for 20 years and im surprised they got a license! I dont dont drive at all and im 22 but i still have a pretty good knowledge of how a car works and what components to adjust/change to make one aspect of your car better but putting it into practice is totally different.

I look forward to your videos with your amazing drifting

Hugs and Kisses

Spec....

 

[Suzuki]

Team DD also are great drifters but im not sure if they got drift vids knocking around on here.

man, you havent seen any of DD's vids? there are a few of all of us drifting together, and there are many vids of our members xlinking with other people. check the video forum.

anyways, dude if you want people to believe your a good drifter, just post up a video of a few laps. thats all it takes. and if you really are skilled, we will acknowledge that, if not, well we will comment on what you need to improve on.

 

[nucesone]

man you guys are still trying to argue...lol
dude give up i already said you guys are right and that i'm wrong what more do you wan't......

please just let it be and grow up.....

for the last time,i'm trying to get a vid up and yes snap shots of some of my work will be great putting up.....

i love gtp will me whats writtin on the paper....

peace i don't want anymore trouble ......just disreguard everthing that i have said.....

thank you NA-MONSTERS

 

[Swift]

please just let it be and grow up.....

You call me names and I'M the one that has to grow up. Interesting

i love gtp will me whats writtin on the paper....

What?

 

[Suzuki]

man you guys are still trying to argue...lol
dude give up i already said you guys are right and that i'm wrong what more do you wan't......

please just let it be and grow up.....

for the last time,i'm trying to get a vid up and yes snap shots of some of my work will be great putting up.....

i love gtp will me whats writtin on the paper....

peace i don't want anymore trouble ......just disreguard everthing that i have said.....

thank you NA-MONSTERS

to tell you the truth, pictures are worthless as far as skill goes unless you make a slideshow video. because you could have easily gotten high angle, taken a pic then spun out.
but be sure to make a post in the video section when you get your video on the computer.
you can host at google video.

 

[nk4e]

man you guys are still trying to argue...lol
dude give up i already said you guys are right and that i'm wrong what more do you wan't......

please just let it be and grow up.....

for the last time,i'm trying to get a vid up and yes snap shots of some of my work will be great putting up.....

i love gtp will me whats writtin on the paper....

peace i don't want anymore trouble ......just disreguard everthing that i have said.....

thank you NA-MONSTERS

YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION!!!! >.<

 

[nucesone]

to tell you the truth, pictures are worthless as far as skill goes unless you make a slideshow video. because you could have easily gotten high angle, taken a pic then spun out.
but be sure to make a post in the video section when you get your video on the computer.
you can host at google video.

i think they want pic's of my work .....not gt4 drifting.....and i ment to say "i love gtp" is the saying i'm going to write on a paper....for proof i guess....

whatever floats your boat.......

and i'm 18.....started to learn about cars when i was six.....my uncles and father are mechanics...

didn't start driving until i was 13 ......i was in a go cart series and moved up from class....and know i do what i love doing not racing but tunning....

i work for acura as a tech....and yes i am only 18....thank you....

oh and proof i will get to you as soon as i get some pics up...

right know i'm working on two projects and finished one.....

ek civic....with h22a in the bonnet.....and crx with b16 going into it...and rebuilding a ca18det...like i said ill get pics up....thank you..


what was your guestion nk4e

 

[nk4e]

i think they want pic's of my work .....not gt4 drifting.....and i ment to say "i love gtp" is the saying i'm going to write on a paper....for proof i guess....

whatever floats your boat.......

and i'm 18.....started to learn about cars when i was six.....my uncles and father are mechanics...

didn't start driving until i was 13 ......i was in a go cart series and moved up from class....and know i do what i love doing not racing but tunning....

i work for acura as a tech....and yes i am only 18....thank you....

oh and proof i will get to you as soon as i get some pics up...

right know i'm working on two projects and finished one.....

ek civic....with h22a in the bonnet.....and crx with b16 going into it...and rebuilding a ca18det...like i said ill get pics up....thank you..


what was your guestion nk4e

BLAH!!! I thought I had proper grammer... but look at my post..

I thought that the ASE would have mechanics with good grammar?Tunning= Tuning.And you just bash people when you have the chance.You don't give them a chance to speak but instead you put in all one post and let Swift or the others get mad at you. I wish Shadow Drifter was here, or at least DR or Thio...well there is Battle Stage, Exhuast N0te...ok I will stop Rambling.But if you are an expert, maybe you should help me then. How do you kick the rear more than the Front in a AWD (a good choice would be a 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Spec.C)? But the problem is that you can't have AID(s) on, no unbalanced tires and a range of stock-400HP. And Yes, I do watch Initial D too much and they don't teach you about LSD settings or Spring rate explaination. But it some what came to a place that I only understand how a turbo works, how the ALS system works for Rally cars and what not. I forgot to mention....I LOVE INITIAL D. But you never told us what was the different approach, aside from the various techniques that was giving to us. did I mention that I LOVE INITIAL D?

I have seen a Prelude Engine in a Civic before and the owner says the Torque kicks in alot. I was never bashing on you, I always do that to people. I just want to see a clip, I said the same thing to Mike and he showed me. Im still amazed at what he can do.

 

[nucesone]

BLAH!!! I thought I had proper grammer... but look at my post..


I have seen a Prelude Engine in a Civic before and the owner says the Torque kicks in alot.

hell yea it kicks in.....but the problem that most people find when they do that swap is complain about understeer....since the engine is a dohc(dual over head cam) 2.2 liter....compared to the sohc 1.5 liter engine that came out...understeer is a problem that comes to play..why ....couple of things happen..

1.more wieght..
2.the motor has to have custom mounts making the engine sit 4mm more up towards the front clip.
3.more power = more understeer for fwd cars....


but yea nice torque from the h22,
i drove the car when i swaped the old ecu to a newer one and wow...

i launched it from 2400 rpm and it picks up crazy..

 

[nk4e]

hell yea it kicks in.....but the problem that most people find when they do that swap is complain about understeer....since the engine is a dohc(dual over head cam) 2.2 liter....compared to the sohc 1.5 liter engine that came out...understeer is a problem that comes to play..why ....couple of things happen..

1.more wieght..
2.the motor has to have custom mounts making the engine sit 4mm more up towards the front clip.
3.more power = more understeer for fwd cars....


but yea nice torque from the h22,
i drove the car when i swaped the old ecu to a newer one and wow...

i launched it from 2400 rpm and it picks up crazy..

I know those terms..so you don't have to change anything but back to the thread...WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT APPROACH?

 

[nucesone]

I know those terms..so you don't have to change anything but back to the thread...WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT APPROACH?

a diffrent approach at drifting ......well i guess ther were none...the stuff that i posted was the way i prepare my cars and thats about it....

my best addvice for anyone is learn how to feel the cars in gt4 and you will unlock everthing else....

why:
unlocking the feel,will let you understand and will let you collect data for the car and from the car

"FEEL"
what i mean is when you keep driving in gt4 or any other chapter of gt....you can acctually feel the car when your driving....

letting you collect data on understeer,oversteer,brakes...ect

 

[nk4e]

a diffrent approach at drifting ......well i guess ther were none...the stuff that i posted was the way i prepare my cars and thats about it....

my best addvice for anyone is learn how to feel the cars in gt4 and you will unlock everthing else....

why:
unlocking the feel,will let you understand and will let you collect data for the car....

"FEEL"
what i mean is when you keep driving in gt4 or any other chapter of gt....you can acctually feel the car when your driving....

letting you collect data on understeer,oversteer,brakes...ect

Keiichi Tsuchiya said that in the Drift Bible...

 

[nucesone]

Keiichi Tsuchiya said that in the Drift Bible...

who is keiichi tsuchiya and what the hell is the drift bible.....????

 

[nk4e]

who is keiichi tsuchiya and what the hell is the drift bible.....????

&#22303;&#23627;&#22317;&#24066; Tsuchiya Kei'ich

Drift Bible

 

[nucesone]

drift bible huh.......that guy looks like i have seen him some were???


oh yea he droped off some shrimp fried rice to my house.....lol
joking


that video looks cool i might order it thanks for the link....

 

[Perfect Balance]

If you don't know who he is, then you have no place in the drifting forum. Period.

Now, get some pics and videos up. I've been drifting for 3 years, lets see how 3 days compares to that.

3 of my uncles are car dealers, 2 are mechanics. My dad took a classes on fixing engines, and was a driving teacher before. I have been learning about cars my whole life, and I'm taking collision repair classes next year followed by engine and tuning classes. I don't think there is much you can tell me that I (15 years old) wouldn't know. And, I am not even close to some of the people here.

Also, don't think we are all 13 year olds. We have people here over 40 years old. We have people here that own tuning shops. You are not the smartest person here when it comes to tuning cars.

My 2 cents. Basically until you prove something, don't act like your smarter than everyone else. I was literally laughing while reading this.

 

[nucesone]

well it looks like you can't read.....but let me post it again i don't care....

ha ha......

and how the hell are your uncles car dealers....lol
can i literally walk into them and buy a car....lol
just joking man.....

thats cool man....collision repair....they have a good class at uti camps.

but yea man keep it up we might meet later in life....who knows i might be working for you or the other way around..

thanks for commenting.....

and sure i'm looking forward to that drift battle.....

NA-MONSTERS

oh and sorry i didn't know one person accross the pacific ocean.


oh and for only being 15 thats dope....

so i have a little problem right know,since you know more then me maybe you can help me...

i'm swaping a b16A into a 91' honda crx si
and the clutch linkage is not fitting properly into the bracket i told the customer that he might need to get a new linkage for proper fitting but he doesn't want to .....so what should i do custom make a linkage plate or use a hoist to tug on the linkage...

 

[Perfect Balance]

well it looks like you can't read.....but let me post it again i don't care....

ha ha......

What's wrong with my reading? I don't care much either, because until you post up some proof it's all BS to me and everyone else.

I just don't get why you think you are so extremely smart about cars that you can just laugh at other people's knowledge like its nothing. So far you have posted nothing about tuning that I had not known before, and in fact, some of the stuff I knew better than you.

EDIT: Went back and read your posts on this last page...Didn't see an "I don't care anywhere" but, I WILL go ahead and disregard everything you said before, if that's your wish. New slate, ok, but I still want to see some videos and pics, now it's just out of curiosity.

 

[nucesone]

read post number 41 thats when i said i don't care.....

 

[nk4e]

You Still Haven't Helped Me!!!! T-t

 

[ForcedInduction]

and how the hell are your uncles car dealers....lol
can i literally walk into them and buy a car....lol

His uncles are car dealers, as in people who sell cars and not the actual lots that house cars. Duh.



Swift, IMHO, I think this thread has served its purpose. Any more and there will be a flame war for countless pages.

 

[Suzuki]

i'm swaping a b16A into a 91' honda crx si
and the clutch linkage is not fitting properly into the bracket i told the customer that he might need to get a new linkage for proper fitting but he doesn't want to .....so what should i do custom make a linkage plate or use a hoist to tug on the linkage...

now cmon, dont go jerry rigging things so they work, thats not the proper way of going about things. just go buy hasports shift linkage and get it over with. although you might have a problem getting the old linkage off if you dont have a 8mm punch(or something of equal size that wont harm the pin) to get the b---- pin off.