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This evening after a very long day at work, I came home. I sat down and ate dinner, talked to my kids, and came over to the computer and logged on to see if anything was happening with any of the OLR things I have chosen to be involved in.

I was sidetracked when I saw that someone I consider to be a friend, and a valuable member of this community is in crisis.

AS you all know, Andrew (aka Rumple Foreskin) has opened up his life, and his pain for all to see. He has come asking for no help, or understanding. He just wanted a place to blow off some steam.
As a community, most of us rallied around him, to offer encouragement, advice, and an outpouring of human kindness.
For those of you that fit into that category, I thank you for showing an old cynic like me that there are still some really good people left in this world.

Now, we receive word that Andrew may have reached a terribly final decision tonight.
I pray that it isn't true.
But with no recriminations, no condemnations, but a tear in my eye, I say that if tonight is/was your last night on this earth Andrew, a little piece of me will go with you to "the other side."
No matter which path you choose:
May you find the peace you have beeen seeking so desperately.
 
"All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated...As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

John Donne
 
tercel shut the hell up... i think you need to get banned from gtplanet, rumple was a good guy here, and all you can do for him is say ur blowing this out of proportion..
 
What the hell is wrong with you?

Was I talking to you?

I was saying this because it is not the first time he comes up with his suicide intentions. I personally dislike people like that.
 
the question here is WHAT IF? WHAT IF he happens to kill himself tonight... What IF this is the last draw.. WHAT IF he really is serious about this?

just shows how heartless you really are
 
Rumple is/was a good guy. If he chose to end his life, then I truly hope that is what he really wanted deep down inside. If it was, then it was going to happen anyway...if not...then I don't know.

I miss his old avatar....the one with the bad case of diherreah.
 
Originally posted by Tercel_driver

I was saying this because it is not the first time he comes up with his suicide intentions. I personally dislike people like that.
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I think that if you cant contribute anything in this particular subject that is postive, then perhaps shut up. That applies to everyone who cant offer postive thoughts.

This is not a matter to be taken lightly. So what if this is not the first time he has "gone off the rails". With attitudes like yours, it certainly doesnt offer any support to a person in need.


That said, and although I didnt know him that well, he came across to me as a person with a lively sense of humour and a decent set values.

He is one of the people we all associate with GTP. I hope he finds peace and happiness, whatever his choice.
 
Guys,
This thread ws meant to be a tribute to a guy, who though very troubled, managed to make me laugh fairly often.
I respect your feelings, Tercel Driver. But this isn't about Rumple's living or dying. This is just my way of showing Andrew a little respect, and to thank him for all the laughs.
OUT OF RESPECT (for the sanctity of life) Could we take the flaming somewhere else.
It doesn't belong here.
Thanks.
 
Gil - Please don't tell me that Rumple is going to commit suicide.

Because if its true then I am going to be truly upset.
 
Originally posted by Rossell
Gil - Please don't tell me that Rumple is going to commit suicide.

Because if its true then I am going to be truly upset.
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Search for the thread "Rumple Foreskin is dead"
It isn't known yet whether he is alive or dead...
 
Originally posted by Rossell
Apologies.

The thread says he went to hospital.
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Yes, I hope that he went in vertical, and not horizontal.
I've done the ER thing and it's very possible to come in to the hospital barely alive, and to leave in the back of a hearse.

Unfortunately, if he went in and was deemed to be suicidal, we won't see him for a while, as they try to dissuade him from this tack.
My fear for him is his parent's reaction...
 
Originally posted by Mike Rotch
Hopefully they will be supportive to the utmost. After all, he is their son.
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unfortunately, that has not been their reaction in the past.
 
Originally posted by Gil
This evening after a very long day at work, I came home. I sat down and ate dinner, talked to my kids, and came over to the computer and logged on to see if anything was happening with any of the OLR things I have chosen to be involved in.

I was sidetracked when I saw that someone I consider to be a friend, and a valuable member of this community is in crisis.

AS you all know, Andrew (aka Rumple Foreskin) has opened up his life, and his pain for all to see. He has come asking for no help, or understanding. He just wanted a place to blow off some steam.
As a community, most of us rallied around him, to offer encouragement, advice, and an outpouring of human kindness.
For those of you that fit into that category, I thank you for showing an old cynic like me that there are still some really good people left in this world.

Now, we receive word that Andrew may have reached a terribly final decision tonight.
I pray that it isn't true.
But with no recriminations, no condemnations, but a tear in my eye, I say that if tonight is/was your last night on this earth Andrew, a little piece of me will go with you to "the other side."
No matter which path you choose:
May you find the peace you have beeen seeking so desperately.
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Very well put Gil, This thing that Andrew started up here is not easy to handle for lot of the users here and it needs some balancing.

I must say I admire Andrew for the courage it takes to be as open as he is here, he is talking about suicide and it scares people so he gets both supporting but also condemning and dislike in answer.

I believe the best way to support someone who is suicidal is to give unconditional approval, like you do here: "No matter which path you choose: May you find the peace you have beeen seeking so desperately."
 
Could someone give me a link to where Rumple explains why he is feeling this way please?

Or a brief explanation - both are welcome.

I can't make it out from the one thread because his grammar is so poor I can't understand it.
 
In fact just for the record, soon enough I am going to be opening up all my pain and anger for you to see. I just need enough courage to do it.

I'm also not suicidal so that makes it a bit easier. I'm kinda hankering after insanity not the afterlife.
 
Thanks.

I am starting to fear the worst as well, so I now offer my condolences to everyone concerned.

Peace Rumple.

May The Rossell INC Force (as I call it) be with you brother.
 
A friend of my wife had Parkinsons disease. She was a fun, beautiful person with lots of interests an an active lifestyle. She was engaged to be married and she and her future husband seemed very happy. But her Parkinsons got worse and worse. Her life revolved around it, and I think she hated this unavoidable fact. She developed a gambling addiction. She would sneak to casinos in the middle of the night, sell jewelry, steal from her future husband, anything to go and gamble. I think it was the only thing that took her mind off her disease. We all knew about it but nobody realized the seriousness of it. The guilt her dishonesty must've caused her, especially in the face of the unconditional love and support she received from everyone she knew, including her new Parkinsons friends of which she had become a role model and leader/activist of sorts, was tearing her apart inside and nobody could tell. I think it most involved her future husband. He would get frustrated with her gambling and make ultimatums and threaten to leave her, but he couldn't bring himself to do it, also probably out of fear of the guilt dumping her would cause. One day he came home from a two day business trip and found her in the car in the garage, engine running. She'd been dead for a day. I'll never for get that day. My wife and the circle of friends that had unconditionally supported her were stunned and deeply hurt. There's still a picture of her and my wife up in the house.

After she was gone a lot of secrets came out. Casino reciepts proved that she would spend upwards of 23 hours at a stretch gambling. She pawned her engagement ring, which I think was the proverbial last straw which made the load of her self loathing unbearable.

She never mentioned suicide once. There were no threats, no depressed ramblings. Suicide is a one way street. If you're still talking about it then you haven't made that turn yet, because once you do, you'll never tell anyone. Everyone who's ever wanted to commit suicide is dead. Many who have only talked about it or threatened it are not.

I still wonder what could've been going through her mind as she entered the garage, when she turned the key, when she felt herself slipping away, what she thought about, or remembered as she waited. It gives me chills.

I hope you're alive Andrew. But if you're not, you're not.
 
I read about this all this morning and I was speechless. Rumple is one of my best friends at these boards and on the internet for that matter. I refuse to believe he is gone, I hope he isn't gone.

My sister, who is 25 (Rumple is 20), went through almost the exact same thing a year or two ago. They thought the exact same way and said the same things. She almost killed herself but her friend walked in as she was cutting her wrists, and sent her to a hospital. We found out a few days later and went to visit immediately. My parents were completely out of it, they were disappointed and a bit upset (for all the wrong reasons), they tried to be helpful, but they in fact made things worse. I was basically the only family she had. All I could do was to be like I always was, a brother and a friend. One very bumpy road later, she's happy and living on her own. The whole time, I was so afraid of loosing her. This time, I'm afraid I was too late, damnit. I wasn't there for him, and now I have no clue what has happened. He could be getting help, or it could be over (allah forbid). All I can say is that my tears are for you and my prayers will be with you, Andrew.

OA
 
What it sounds like is the same problem that everyone has with the grade below me in my school. They are D*cks to everyone that does not agree with them on almost everything. They make fun of everybody for the littlest things(being black, short, tall...) It is a matter of meeting with these people and see if they still ignore you or are mean when they are by themselves.

(Lot of the group(in the grade below me) is in basketball and they all are nice and the problem was the 3 or 4 who wasn't in sports.) (It is just a matter of talking to these people for a couple minutes when noone else is around.) There will be one person who is still mean when they are by themselves That is your problem right there just deal with the one person and everyone is normal to you again.

And rumple is a great guy. He seemed to always make people laugh on the forums without being offensive. I hope he didnt go through with what he said
 
Originally posted by milefile
Everyone who's ever wanted to commit suicide is dead. Many who have only talked about it or threatened it are not.
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Now that is not the truth. There are millions of people who have wanted to leave this world behind in the ultimate escape (I'm talking about suicide here) who have not succeeded. My Mom wanted to kill herself when she was my age, which scares the craps out of me (she's good now). Suicide is not a one-way street; if U-turns can happen then there has to be a way back.
 

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