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When i search "abs" here and on the tuning forum, i don't get any results. I find it hard to believe it's not mentioned here.

I'm new here so i hope this hasn't been discussed a million times.

Anyways, I see a lot of drivers setting it to 1. Are they thinking they want just a little (like traction control 1), or are they setting it per what the game says it does, something like more tire grip during braking? Why do i rarely see settings other than OFF or 1?
 
ABS stands for Anti Locking Braking System
It prevents the wheels from locking up under heavy braking. Most people will use this online due to tyre wear.
 
Setting ABS to 1, pretty much eliminates wheel lock 100%. Thus there's no reason for it to be any higher.

It has been discussed A LOT in the forum, and the overall conclusion seems to be that ABS is much more effective in the game compared to real life. ABS not only prevents your wheels from locking, it also have a noticeable effect on your suspension. You won't get any snap oversteer, nor will you spin out in corners due to braking.

Of course I can't speak on behalf of everyone driving without ABS, but the reason i don't use it, is because it's way too efficient. It takes away from the experience, as well as the skill required to compete against fast drivers.

Buttom line is. You never need to set the ABS higher than 1. And if you want to use as much skill as possible, you'll drive without it.
 
Anti-lock brakes prevent you from locking up your brakes so you can just mash the brake pedal as hard as you want and it won't skid, unlike the e-brake, which locks up your rear wheels and causes you to skid. If you set it too high, it reduces your braking power to prevent the wheels from locking up and increases your stopping distance, which is bad. I just have it set to 1 because I don't need it to be stronger.

It's like TCS, which cuts your throttle to prevent the drive wheels from spinning.
 
Personally for me, I always drive with ABS off because I find that I have a better feel for the car slowing down, which is important for me as a racer. When I use ABS and mash the brake pedal down, I have no feeling for the car and that is why I tend to overshoot corners a little bit with it on.
 
christ
When i search "abs" here and on the tuning forum, i don't get any results. I find it hard to believe it's not mentioned here.
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This is because the forum software is limited and cannot search 3 letter words.
Being discussed here
 
Ross
This is because the forum software is limited and cannot search 3 letter words.
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This. For most thread titles the total amount of characters are usually more than three so there's no point in searching three letter words.
 
MSTER232
Personally for me, I always drive with ABS off because I find that I have a better feel for the car slowing down, which is important for me as a racer. When I use ABS and mash the brake pedal down, I have no feeling for the car and that is why I tend to overshoot corners a little bit with it on.
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You can learn to feel the ABS and listen to the tires when you brake. It takes a while, but it's worth it.
 
iamjajo
You can learn to feel the ABS and listen to the tires when you brake. It takes a while, but it's worth it.
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True, but I forgot to mention that I also drive without ABS to increase difficulty and to challenge myself. I think driving with ABS is far too easy.
 
i didn't see any replies here or on the "ABS 0 vs 1" thread about higher ABS values (just Spagetti69 asking about it). the game says something like it provides more grip while cornering. two of the first few replies on this thread sounded like a higher value provides more abs effect and 1 is already enough. from my uncertain understanding, i'm wondering if both explanations could be two different observations of the same thing.

sometimes it seems the fastest line around a turn isn't always on the far inside... like on a double apex (like GTA Rome). if what the game is saying is true, then wouldn't a higher abs allow you to go a little more outside at a higher speed and get through the turn in less time?
 
christ
i didn't see any replies here or on the "ABS 0 vs 1" thread about higher ABS values (just Spagetti69 asking about it). the game says something like it provides more grip while cornering. two of the first few replies on this thread sounded like a higher value provides more abs effect and 1 is already enough. from my uncertain understanding, i'm wondering if both explanations could be two different observations of the same thing.

sometimes it seems the fastest line around a turn isn't always on the far inside... like on a double apex (like GTA Rome). if what the game is saying is true, then wouldn't a higher abs allow you to go a little more outside at a higher speed and get through the turn in less time?
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I've been told that higher value allows you to brake and turn more effectively.

In essence abs 0 would require braking in a straight line before the turn.

Tires are reduced in effect of braking or Turing when trying to do both simultaneously.

Higher abs slows more turning and braking without detriment. At least that's what im lead to believe.
 
It's fun to turn off the ABS off at times for me and it's easy to adjust to. I like driving fast and slamming the brakes and skid as far as I can.
 
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The more aids you use the slower you go. I have started to use only Abs 1 with most cars and very rarely SRF on some LMP's! Not bad for someone who spent a year of GT5 on a DS3 and using TC7, SRF, AS Strong, ASM and ABS 10! :lol: I seriously don't know how I managed that! It's terrible with all these aids!
 
Scottish GT5
The more aids you use the slower you go. I have started to use only Abs 1 with most cars and very rarely SRF on some LMP's! Not bad for someone who spent a year of GT5 on a DS3 and using TC7, SRF, AS Strong, ASM and ABS 10! :lol: I seriously don't know how I managed that! It's terrible with all these aids!
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I am now officially speechless :odd: ...
 
MSTER232
I am now officially speechless :odd: ...
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Lol! I tried racing like that again a week or two ago and was a good 15 seconds slower at LeMans!
 
Scottish GT5
Lol! I tried racing like that again a week or two ago and was a good 15 seconds slower at LeMans!
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I don't even see how it's possible for people to drive their cars when they have every single driving aid in the game turned on :crazy: .
 
Scottish GT5
Not bad for someone who spent a year of GT5 on a DS3 and using TC7, SRF, AS Strong, ASM and ABS 10! :lol: I seriously don't know how I managed that! It's terrible with all these aids!
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I just threw up in my mouth.


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Ridox2JZGTE
I did a test with different ABS values and posted the results here, hope it help you to better understand the differences of ABS values ... a simple way to test yourself would be the 1st corner of Fuji Speedway, use any car that you prefer and try to brake as hard as you can with different values while trying to turn into a corner.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7130917#post7130917
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This is a very conclusive test, and I thank you very much for doing it 👍 !
 
Jawehawk
Setting ABS to 1, pretty much eliminates wheel lock 100%. Thus there's no reason for it to be any higher.

It has been discussed A LOT in the forum, and the overall conclusion seems to be that ABS is much more effective in the game compared to real life. ABS not only prevents your wheels from locking, it also have a noticeable effect on your suspension. You won't get any snap oversteer, nor will you spin out in corners due to braking.

Of course I can't speak on behalf of everyone driving without ABS, but the reason i don't use it, is because it's way too efficient. It takes away from the experience, as well as the skill required to compete against fast drivers.

Buttom line is. You never need to set the ABS higher than 1. And if you want to use as much skill as possible, you'll drive without it.
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this.

banning it online is great fun as most people are so reliant on it. really mixes the races up. add tyre wear and about 5 laps and your in for some fun.
 
Leo0308
this.

banning it online is great fun as most people are so reliant on it. really mixes the races up. add tyre wear and about 5 laps and your in for some fun.
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BOOM! I agree with you 100% ABS off will make you feel like you are playing a new GT5. You should check out my league I am about to start I am still looking for NON ABS drivers.
 
JDMKING13
BOOM! I agree with you 100% ABS off will make you feel like you are playing a new GT5. You should check out my league I am about to start I am still looking for NON ABS drivers.
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I'm a non-ABS driver, and the only time I use ABS is when I'm drifting. For normal racing, I never use ABS.
 
The most you need as far as ABS is one. The only reason your wheels will lock up is if your brakes are tuned up stupid high.
 
Once I learn how to drive a certain car without it, I rarely ever use ABS for it again. Although, with the Tank Car, it really doesn't matter what ABS setting you use, you will lock up the tires. But believe it or not, even with ABS on it, the Tank Car can actually help you learn how to drive without ABS, if you're patient enough...:)
 
MSTER232
I'm a non-ABS driver, and the only time I use ABS is when I'm drifting. For normal racing, I never use ABS.
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I'm a non-ABS driver too. I feel that ABS deadens the sensations you feel from braking (obviously transferred via wheel not brake pedal ;)) and see no difference in lap times.

That is unless you're using a car that consistently locks the inside wheel no matter what, on a track like Daytona that requires lots of trail braking. For example the latest WRS TT is the Camaro Z28 RM '69 at Daytona and without ABS I can't stop in the same distance for turn 1, as if you apply the brake pressure needed to slow for the corner the inside wheel locks up. :yuck:

So I'm using ABS for this TT but I haven't used it for anything else. 👍
 
FordMKIVJ5
I'm a non-ABS driver too. I feel that ABS deadens the sensations you feel from braking (obviously transferred via wheel not brake pedal ;)) and see no difference in lap times.

That is unless you're using a car that consistently locks the inside wheel no matter what, on a track like Daytona that requires lots of trail braking. For example the latest WRS TT is the Camaro Z28 RM '69 at Daytona and without ABS I can't stop in the same distance for turn 1, as if you apply the brake pressure needed to slow for the corner the inside wheel locks up. :yuck:

So I'm using ABS for this TT but I haven't used it for anything else. 👍
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FordMKIVJ5
I'm a non-ABS driver too. I feel that ABS deadens the sensations you feel from braking (obviously transferred via wheel not brake pedal ;)) and see no difference in lap times.

That is unless you're using a car that consistently locks the inside wheel no matter what, on a track like Daytona that requires lots of trail braking. For example the latest WRS TT is the Camaro Z28 RM '69 at Daytona and without ABS I can't stop in the same distance for turn 1, as if you apply the brake pressure needed to slow for the corner the inside wheel locks up. :yuck:

So I'm using ABS for this TT but I haven't used it for anything else. 👍
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Interestingly I never use ABS for Daytona Road Course, and for turn 1 at high speed I press the brake sharply and firmly. This usually makes sure that the front wheels lock first, so if anything goes wrong, at least you won't be sent spinning out, then I slowly ease off to about 25% braking power and then I quickly step off the pedal to avoid the rear wheels locking last when I accelerate out of the turn. The key to driving without ABS is to make sure that the front wheels lock first as this usually gives you more control over your car.
 

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