Add option to restart race in a championship

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No it's up to the player entirely, which generally just comes down to having a good time. If you want your challenge, just don't use the button.

Also
Why does it doing things your way suddenly make it all OK?

And what is wrong? Restart option won't change anything so there isn't even a real reason to oppose it.

That could be one reason.

I dont want to be rude but... I would say you just need to practice more, and you'll change your opinion when you are consistent and quick, without making mistakes.
To me its no fun at all when there's no challenge and everything is as easy as it gets.
 
If you struggle with a particular track in a Championship simply do the Championship, abandon each race and after that you can race each track as a single race, a loophole that PD have inadvertently introduced. I had to do this for karting 125cc international A, as it took at 5-10 tries on Kart Space and GT arena just to get gold.
 
No it's up to the player entirely, which generally just comes down to having a good time. If you want your challenge, just don't use the button.

Also
Why does it doing things your way suddenly make it all OK?




And what is wrong? Restart option won't change anything so there isn't even a real reason to oppose it.


That could be one reason.

Yes there is a real reason to oppose it. It totally defeats the purpose of the championship. If you spin out, crash or for whatever reason see that you will/might loose there is and should be no way to restart that race. You can either continue on and do the best you can or you can abort the championship and start it again.

Using a restart in the middle of a championship would make having a championship meaningless as would features like rewind that are in some games.

The whole point of the championship is to drive all the races one after the other, do the best you can and try to get enough points to win overall. If you can not do this then you try again and again and again if need be. Once you win the championship you can always go back and run that one race you failed to win if needed.

There is no way that they should add a restart race option into championship events. Restart Championship would be ok but is not really needed
 
I dont want to be rude but... I would say you just need to practice more
You don't even know how fast I am. What more do I need if I already run rings around the AI? Why does skill or ability even enter this discussion?
and you'll change your opinion when you are consistent and quick, without making mistakes.
My opinions are based in logic. There is no reason for a limitation like not having restart. Adding this feature takes nothing from the game and forces no changes on any player.

To me its no fun at all when there's no challenge and everything is as easy as it gets.
I feel the same way.

Yes there is a real reason to oppose it. It totally defeats the purpose of the championship.
This isn't true at all. The championship is still there, unchanged, with the addition of restart.

If you spin out, crash or for whatever reason see that you will/might loose there is and should be no way to restart that race. You can either continue on and do the best you can or you can abort the championship and start it again.
Exactly. Continue or restart. Up to the player.

Using a restart in the middle of a championship would make having a championship meaningless as would features like rewind that are in some games.

Then what is the meaning of the championship right now? Nothing changes with the additional of the restart.

The whole point of the championship is to drive all the races one after the other, do the best you can and try to get enough points to win overall.
Which is left completely intact with restart.
 
Clearly you have no idea of the concept of having to finish a race or drop out. A restart option would make an already easy game much easier and would make a championship just like single races but allow you to get a big bonus for nothing at all. The bonus is for actually running those races without restarting.

I suppose you could add a restart and if the player uses it then they get no championship points for that race without destroying the event but restarting more than one race would make it near impossible to get gold
 
Clearly you have no idea of the concept of having to finish a race or drop out.
That's because it's not a concept, as in that's the only way it goes.
A restart option would make an already easy game much easier
No, using a restart to make go back to the beginning of a race would potentially save you some time, but that's about it. It's not any easier since you need to win anyway and you're free to restart any number of times through starting the championship over or reloading a save.

and would make a championship just like single races but allow you to get a big bonus for nothing at all.
So nothing changes. Actually one thing might, you lose money. Yes adding and using restart means you make less money. If you just race and get to second place, you would maybe make the 2nd place winning/time of race. If you restart, you make the first place winnings/ the time of two races. That is only if you only need one restart and we don't bother dealing with load times or whatever. So the more you restart, the more your winnings go down. Not that how much money you win should even be considered here in my opinion as winnings/difficulty is only one tiny facet of the whole thing.

The bonus is for actually running those races without restarting.
No it's for getting enough points to win it. The game doesn't care if you restart, which apparently you can by saving mid championship and reloading. Also, the bonus is only going to be in question if someone is basically struggling on every track. If they're maybe having trouble with one track, nothing is going to stop them from winning. Infact they may not even bother with that track. The fastest way to get the big bonus, at least in past games, is to win races until you can't lose the championship and then quit races after that point.

So the only people who would be "helped" by a restart (and it's help as in time and not so much difficulty) are people who are going to penalize themselves from a money/time perspective.

I suppose you could add a restart and if the player uses it then they get no championship points for that race without destroying the event but restarting more than one race would make it near impossible to get gold
Or just let them restart penalty free, besides the money they're losing for doing so.
 
This is arguably the most realistic racing feature in GT despite the AI playing dirty at times...
 
My opinions are based in logic. There is no reason for a limitation like not having restart. Adding this feature takes nothing from the game and forces no changes on any player.

So you are all for giving the players more options, as it is up to the individual user to take up said option and doesnt affect anyone else if one player uses it or not. Yet you stand oppossed the micro transaction model introduced into gt6 which is just another option for players to use or not and doesnt have any bearing on other players enjoying the game or not?

Personally I dont see the need for restart in championships. I agree with other posters that you would then struggle to tell the difference between a championship and a single race, which becomes more prevalent the further into career mode you get. It makes sense how the championships play out in the context of the career mode not having a restart option.
 
It is no way frustrating having to exit and redo a whole championship. Just do the championship and If you come second or third or forth just do the championship again It is not that bloody hard to do that.
 
That's because it's not a concept, as in that's the only way it goes.

No, using a restart to make go back to the beginning of a race would potentially save you some time, but that's about it. It's not any easier since you need to win anyway and you're free to restart any number of times through starting the championship over or reloading a save.
You just do not understand or do not want to. It would change things dramatically and defeat the purpose.

Not only do you need to win the races but you need to win them in one shot and you need to win or place high in more than 1/2 if not all of them. If a restart was allowed on any given race it would make it 10x easier because you could run race 1, oops restart, oops restart then race 2 oops restart and so on until you finally manage to win all the races by basically cheating your tail off. You would not deserve any championship money because guess what you would not have actually ran a championship at all. What you would have done is ran several single races that you could not win without restarting again and again.

Yes it would potentially save you some time, it would also take away from the racing and it would allow you to get the bonus when you did not earn it through racing a championship series.

At any rate Championship series means that you run several races in sequence and add up your total points to see who wins. It does not allow you to restart any of the races without restarting the whole series. It is supposed to be more difficult than single races where you can restart and that is the reason you get extra credits for winning the overall. Restarting any race would void the championship or at least give you a DNF for that race as you did not actually finish it.

Of course there are those who want everything to be easy and don't really want to play the game the way it is meant to be played. They think they should be able to do whatever they want and that the game should be changed to suit their own style even if it means breaking the game to do so. To those I say maybe you should be playing a different game.
 
So you are all for giving the players more options, as it is up to the individual user to take up said option and doesnt affect anyone else if one player uses it or not. Yet you stand oppossed the micro transaction model introduced into gt6 which is just another option for players to use or not and doesnt have any bearing on other players enjoying the game or not?
I'm all for options yes. So yes to restart and yes to unlimited credit sources. I'm against double charging for content.

Personally I dont see the need for restart in championships.
There is no need for or against. It's merely another option. Since it can't negatively affect anyone, then ideally it should be there.

I agree with other posters that you would then struggle to tell the difference between a championship and a single race
I don't know why it's being assumed that the restart button is pressing itself over and over.

It is no way frustrating having to exit and redo a whole championship. Just do the championship and If you come second or third or forth just do the championship again It is not that bloody hard to do that.

It's not all that hard to walk, but cars caught on anyway.

You just do not understand or do not want to.
How is that when I continually address everything you say, but then you ignore it?

It would change things dramatically and defeat the purpose.
I've explained over and over that it doesn't. It doesn't even change anything.

Not only do you need to win the races but you need to win them in one shot
You get two or more shots by reloading or restarting the championship already.

If a restart was allowed on any given race
it would give you the option of restarting or not, so basically you could do the championships exactly as they are now or save the time of having to rerun the previous races. In all cases the only way to win is to be fast enough to beat the AI.

it would make it 10x easier because you could run race 1, oops restart, oops restart then race 2 oops restart and so on until you finally manage to win all the races by basically cheating your tail off.
So unless you quit playing the instant you lose a race, you're cheating?

You would not deserve
This is ridiculous.

you would not have actually ran a championship at all.
That's exactly what you would have done. You beat the AI at every race.

Yes it would potentially save you some time,
Yes.

it would also take away from the racing
What?

and it would allow you to get the bonus when you did not earn it through racing a championship series.
Is 1 cr of bonus money worth more than 1 cr of non bonus money? From where I'm sitting you make less money by restarting often.

At any rate Championship series means that you run several races in sequence and add up your total points to see who wins.
Yes. And this happens to cover restarting individual races.

It does not allow you to restart any of the races without restarting the whole series.
Who says?
It is supposed to be more difficult
Why are you still on about difficulty, especially when that is basically the least impacted aspect of the whole thing. Especially in GT's case.

and that is the reason you get extra credits for winning the overall.
There is no reason other than PD felt like giving a bonus for doing something arbitrary.

Restarting any race would void the championship or at least give you a DNF for that race as you did not actually finish it.
You're pulling this out of nothing.

Of course there are those who want everything to be easy and don't really want to play the game the way it is meant to be played. They think they should be able to do whatever they want and that the game should be changed to suit their own style even if it means breaking the game to do so. To those I say maybe you should be playing a different game.

To the people who say the above, they should be happy if there is a game breaking bug that bricks your console. After it came that way from the factory. No way it can be improved.
 
Seriously. It's frustrating having to exit and redo a whole championship because of a spin-out or being pitted by the AI in a certain race. Just add a reset button to the pause menu to restart a single race in a championship.
It is no way frustrating having to exit and redo a whole championship because of a spin-out or being pitted by the AI in a certain race . Just do the championship and If you come second or third or forth just do the championship again It is not that bloody hard to do that is it.
 
i did the 125 shifter championship earlier and lost it at willow springs, i was bumped off the track but when i rejoined it said i was a whole lap down (i rejoined after just a few seconds). in some cases its needed.
 
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This thread highlights that a group of individuals exists that play this game solely for the purpose of collecting trophies. They complete a championship or race just once to get their little stars and trophies, then move on. Probably the same group that complains that they have to "grind" to get a car they will never drive.
I call them trophy grinders, they buy a game, earn the trophies, sell the game, then buy another game and will throw a fit if anything is too challenging along the way.
 
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