All VGT Interiors

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I expect GT7 to have interiors for all VGT cars. There really is no excuse not to.
Just like there's no excuse for having standard cars in GT7 (even though we don't know what "standard" will look like in GT7), but that's another story. No interiors and low resolution cars shouldn't even exist in modern racing games such a Gran Turismo.
 
Simply put, PD are cutting the visions short. The visions are not complete until the entire vision is represented.

Don't want to assume anything, but whatever it is it's terrible! If the interiors are completed, or even ingame (doubt that, whistle snap probably would have dug them up by now), then there is no good reason to not have them available!

Personally though I use the chase cam most often, so it doesn't bother me as much as it does other people, but I still will occasionally use cockpit view for the fun of it and to not have the interiors ready to use is really dumb.
 
Afaik the Mercedes VGT full side car doesn't have an interior.. It's radio controlled though, so it does drive:)
 
Just like there's no excuse for having standard cars in GT7 (even though we don't know what "standard" will look like in GT7), but that's another story. No interiors and low resolution cars shouldn't even exist in modern racing games such a Gran Turismo.

We have premium cars without interiors I fully expect GT7's standards to be the same, pretty on the outside but no guts.

No excuse as to why recently modeled cars should have no interior.
 
I've just seen this video (link: ) Now don't even try to tell me they don't have an interior modeled!!! Plus, whaaaaat, is that interior on this Infinity? Or am I just dreaming... Come on, don't be that stupid. I'm only hoping they will release huge update with all the interiors fitted. PD! PLEAAAASE!!!
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I've just seen this video...

Now don't even try to tell me they don't have an interior modelled!!! Plus, whaaaaat, is that interior on this Infinity? Or am I just dreaming... Come on, don't be that stupid. I'm only hoping they will release huge update with all the interiors fitted. PD! PLEAAAASE!!!
I am almost sure that video was not produced by PD but in-house by Aston Martin or commissioned by it. Strictly speaking the CAD data exists but it may not be compatible with PD systems.

We all hope PD release an update with the missing VGT interiors although I feel it is highly unlikely. I think the absence is down to time constraints so will see them all in GT7.
 
They might as well be pulling an M4 and just modelling interiors for release in a later GT6 version.
 
We have premium cars without interiors I fully expect GT7's standards to be the same, pretty on the outside but no guts.

No excuse as to why recently modeled cars should have no interior.
In my opinion, standard cars aren't pretty at all, the shapes of those car are just hideous, but that's just my opinion.

Low quality cars shouldn't have been part of GT6 and shouldn't be part of the next GT games (but somehow they will). Seriously, what is GT? a game made with low resouces or something? I don't think that's the case, they spent so many years making GT5 and they never took the time to rebuilt each standards to premium quality? Their priority is clearly over quantity rather than quality. I can bet that the main argument to sell GT7 will be that they have thousands of cars. And half of those are just standards and duplicates. But anyway, that's not the place to talk about that specific topic.

But I agree that there's no excuse for them to include an interior to each recently modeled cars.
 
I can't believe that the Toyota Vision GT has a fully modelled interior, but we can't see it while driving. It's just baffling.

Honestly IMO, they are holding the completed ones back for some reason. Probably to release as content for a big update (spec 2.0) all at once rather than update each car slowly.

PD has some sort of strategy for all of this content. They might be trying to buy an extra year or two for GT7 by stretching GT6 as far as they can. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see a 'complete edition' of GT6 released on next-gen in late '15 early '16.
 
In my opinion, standard cars aren't pretty at all, the shapes of those car are just hideous, but that's just my opinion.

Low quality cars shouldn't have been part of GT6 and shouldn't be part of the next GT games (but somehow they will). Seriously, what is GT? a game made with low resouces or something? I don't think that's the case, they spent so many years making GT5 and they never took the time to rebuilt each standards to premium quality? Their priority is clearly over quantity rather than quality. I can bet that the main argument to sell GT7 will be that they have thousands of cars. And half of those are just standards and duplicates. But anyway, that's not the place to talk about that specific topic.

But I agree that there's no excuse for them to include an interior to each recently modeled cars.

Was speaking of standards in GT7. No one knows for sure but was assuming they'll get cleaned up a bit like how got touched up for GT6
 
I've just seen this video (link: ) Now don't even try to tell me they don't have an interior modeled!!! Plus, whaaaaat, is that interior on this Infinity? Or am I just dreaming... Come on, don't be that stupid. I'm only hoping they will release huge update with all the interiors fitted. PD! PLEAAAASE!!!
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And then people would complain because the update would take up several gigabytes.

As I've said before, the reason they don't have interiors at the moment is because concept cars' designs change very, very quickly and drastically over the course of development, so they don't want to misrepresent their products by having incorrect interiors in the game. This was mentioned in a news article several months ago, but it appears some people here have forgotten that.
 
Was speaking of standards in GT7. No one knows for sure but was assuming they'll get cleaned up a bit like how got touched up for GT6
Oh ok I thought you were talking about them in GT6, but still they need to make them premium but it won't happen so it sucks. ^^
 
It's unacceptable that PD doesn't model the interiors when they are there. Honestly, if PD just copy-and-pasted the interiors from other cars for the VGTs I would be happy.
 
And then people would complain because the update would take up several gigabytes.

As I've said before, the reason they don't have interiors at the moment is because concept cars' designs change very, very quickly and drastically over the course of development, so they don't want to misrepresent their products by having incorrect interiors in the game. This was mentioned in a news article several months ago, but it appears some people here have forgotten that.
Do you have a link to this article? I don't recall anyone complaining about the size of the updates when they were actual game content as opposed to videos which you could just as easily watch on YouTube.
 
Do you have a link to this article? I don't recall anyone complaining about the size of the updates when they were actual game content as opposed to videos which you could just as easily watch on YouTube.
I wish I did. Problem is, the news item I'm referring to is easily half a year old, maybe more. I don't really feel like digging through hundreds of news stories just to find one, especially when I can't view all of them at once.

If I recall correctly (which I probably don't), it was mentioned either in one of the stories about the BMW M4 or this year's Goodwood FoS. So if anybody wants to hunt through the news section and try to find it, those might (might!) be good starting points.

(Who is that in your avatar, BTW? I know the face, but I can't remember the name.)
 
I wish I did. Problem is, the news item I'm referring to is easily half a year old, maybe more. I don't really feel like digging through hundreds of news stories just to find one, especially when I can't view all of them at once.

If I recall correctly (which I probably don't), it was mentioned either in one of the stories about the BMW M4 or this year's Goodwood FoS. So if anybody wants to hunt through the news section and try to find it, those might (might!) be good starting points.

(Who is that in your avatar, BTW? I know the face, but I can't remember the name.)
Why would you hunt? Use the search function. Marilyn Monroe.
 
Why would you hunt? Use the search function. Marilyn Monroe.
Well, even so, I can't remember exactly what the rest of the news post was about; it definitely wasn't an explanation of why VGTs have no interiors, so it would still be largely a needle-in-a-haystack scenario because I'd still have to look through all of them.

(That's who I thought, but I wasn't sure. :))
 
Just like there's no excuse for having standard cars in GT7 (even though we don't know what "standard" will look like in GT7), but that's another story. No interiors and low resolution cars shouldn't even exist in modern racing games such a Gran Turismo.

Simply put, PD are cutting the visions short. The visions are not complete until the entire vision is represented.

Don't want to assume anything, but whatever it is it's terrible! If the interiors are completed, or even ingame (doubt that, whistle snap probably would have dug them up by now), then there is no good reason to not have them available!

Personally though I use the chase cam most often, so it doesn't bother me as much as it does other people, but I still will occasionally use cockpit view for the fun of it and to not have the interiors ready to use is really dumb.

Have you both thought about that prototypes in real life usually don't have finished interiors to begin with? That's quite a good reason for not to have them in the GT series, if you ask me.

When creating a car one of the very last things to make is the interior and that design changes a lot through the process, hence why prototypes don't come with a complete interior to begin with. At most they have a lackluster placeholder, with complete interiors being reserved for the consumer version.

In other words, not all cars have (definitive) interiors. Sound weird but that's how prototypes are, including the Vision cars. With that said, you can't represent or model something that does not exist.


Other good reasons for the Vision cars correctly not having interiors are that:
1.- What you see on the pictures on the OP are mere incomplete and really simple sketches; "placeholders" (just like the interior of real life prototypes). That means if you want the Vision cars to have interiors it'd mean a huge extra job for the manufacturers or that PD itself would have to invent them, none of which is going to happen.
2.- For consistency's sake all Vision cars would have to have interiors, not just some with it and others without it. It's all or nothing, which in this case ends up in none having them. On this regard I have to repeat what's written above: the only Vision car that has a somewhat finished interior is the Toyota one....but is copypasted from another car. All the rest just have a mockup in place.
3.- Finally, lets say PD decides to just model those really simply sketches anyway, At least to me that would be really mediocre, making the effort worthless. I don't know how people here are demanding just some generic wheel and some unimaginative structures without anything else, because that's what those pictures show, not a "Vision".
 
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Have you both thought about that prototypes in real life usually don't have finished interiors to begin with? That's quite a good reason for not to have them in the GT series, if you ask me.

When creating a car one of the very last things to make is the interior and that design changes a lot through the process, hence why prototypes don't come with a complete interior to begin with. At most they have a lackluster placeholder, with complete interiors being reserved for the consumer version.

In other words, not all cars have (definitive) interiors. Sound weird but that's how prototypes are, including the Vision cars. With that said, you can't represent or model something that does not exist.


Other good reasons for the Vision cars correctly not having interiors are that:
1.- What you see on the pictures on the OP are mere incomplete and really simple sketches; "placeholders" (just like the interior of real life prototypes). That means if you want the Vision cars to have interiors it'd mean a huge extra job for the manufacturers or that PD itself would have to invent them, none of which is going to happen.
2.- For consistency's sake all Vision cars would have to have interiors, not just some with it and others without it. It's all or nothing, which in this case ends up in none having them. On this regard I have to repeat what's written above: the only Vision car that has a somewhat finished interior is the Toyota one....but is copypasted from another car. All the rest just have a mockup in place.
3.- Finally, lets say PD decides to just model those really simply sketches anyway, At least to me that would be really mediocre, making the effort worthless. I don't know how people here are demanding just some generic wheel and some unimaginative structures without anything else, because that's what those pictures show, not a "Vision".

I thought the idea of the project was to let the designers create a vision for us, the players, to enjoy. I think in the case of Toyota, VW, and Merc, they made a full scale model (and Toyota might make a consumer version), but again, the concepts were detached from the rest of the program sort of speak. So why wouldn't they design a final interior? Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Further more, while I really admire the entire project and most of the car designs, I do think it is a bit of a hackjob to deliver a car with no interior what so ever. I'm majoring in graphic design, so I can see the production aspect of it all to some degree. But to call these cars a mockup or something like that doesn't make sense. Again, I might need reminding on what the companies participating were planning on doing with these concepts, but I figure an interior would be some that makes sense to include with the digital car.
 
Have you both thought about that prototypes in real life usually don't have finished interiors to begin with? That's quite a good reason for not to have them in the GT series, if you ask me.

When creating a car one of the very last things to make is the interior and that design changes a lot through the process, hence why prototypes don't come with a complete interior to begin with. At most they have a lackluster placeholder, with complete interiors being reserved for the consumer version.

In other words, not all cars have (definitive) interiors. Sound weird but that's how prototypes are, including the Vision cars. With that said, you can't represent or model something that does not exist.


Other good reasons for the Vision cars correctly not having interiors are that:
1.- What you see on the pictures on the OP are mere incomplete and really simple sketches; "placeholders" (just like the interior of real life prototypes). That means if you want the Vision cars to have interiors it'd mean a huge extra job for the manufacturers or that PD itself would have to invent them, none of which is going to happen.
2.- For consistency's sake all Vision cars would have to have interiors, not just some with it and others without it. It's all or nothing, which in this case ends up in none having them. On this regard I have to repeat what's written above: the only Vision car that has a somewhat finished interior is the Toyota one....but is copypasted from another car. All the rest just have a mockup in place.
3.- Finally, lets say PD decides to just model those really simply sketches anyway, At least to me that would be really mediocre, making the effort worthless. I don't know how people here are demanding just some generic wheel and some unimaginative structures without anything else, because that's what those pictures show, not a "Vision".
1) Man have you seen that Infinity car with interior fitted in the picture above? Or that video with completely designed interior of DP-100? VW designed interior as well. Also Chapparal has al the instruments, displays designed. So that's at least 4 companies that have interiors done, 2 of which are in the game. That answers your first point.
2) Toyota has designed the original FT-1 with interior, how much job would have taken to redesign the one they have? Second point answered.
3) Well I don't say this for all manufactures, but some of them could be in the game allready as the ones I mentioned before. I'm not complaining about all of the cars. And PD can't even make interiors without permision of the manufacturer.
I don't wanna be rude, but think at least. Your points are nothing new. It was answered allready, either the interiors are in the process or PD is just waiting to make the game interesting till the GT7 and release the interiors later. Eitherway, we won't see them for a while at least if so...
 
I thought the idea of the project was to let the designers create a vision for us, the players, to enjoy. I think in the case of Toyota, VW, and Merc, they made a full scale model (and Toyota might make a consumer version), but again, the concepts were detached from the rest of the program sort of speak. So why wouldn't they design a final interior? Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Further more, while I really admire the entire project and most of the car designs, I do think it is a bit of a hackjob to deliver a car with no interior what so ever. I'm majoring in graphic design, so I can see the production aspect of it all to some degree. But to call these cars a mockup or something like that doesn't make sense. Again, I might need reminding on what the companies participating were planning on doing with these concepts, but I figure an interior would be some that makes sense to include with the digital car.

I'm sure the designers have a vision on what they think future car interiors would look like. Why have all these fancy engines and drivetrain wrapped in futuristic designs just to sit in it and feel like you're in a Corolla.

A car's design and appeal transfers to the interior, that's where most time is spent .
 
Have you both thought about that prototypes in real life usually don't have finished interiors to begin with? That's quite a good reason for not to have them in the GT series, if you ask me.

When creating a car one of the very last things to make is the interior and that design changes a lot through the process, hence why prototypes don't come with a complete interior to begin with. At most they have a lackluster placeholder, with complete interiors being reserved for the consumer version.

In other words, not all cars have (definitive) interiors. Sound weird but that's how prototypes are, including the Vision cars. With that said, you can't represent or model something that does not exist.


Other good reasons for the Vision cars correctly not having interiors are that:
1.- What you see on the pictures on the OP are mere incomplete and really simple sketches; "placeholders" (just like the interior of real life prototypes). That means if you want the Vision cars to have interiors it'd mean a huge extra job for the manufacturers or that PD itself would have to invent them, none of which is going to happen.
2.- For consistency's sake all Vision cars would have to have interiors, not just some with it and others without it. It's all or nothing, which in this case ends up in none having them. On this regard I have to repeat what's written above: the only Vision car that has a somewhat finished interior is the Toyota one....but is copypasted from another car. All the rest just have a mockup in place.
3.- Finally, lets say PD decides to just model those really simply sketches anyway, At least to me that would be really mediocre, making the effort worthless. I don't know how people here are demanding just some generic wheel and some unimaginative structures without anything else, because that's what those pictures show, not a "Vision".
I'm starting to think that PD loves cars without interiors. haha

No but seriously, I would rather have a "mediocre" interior rather than no interior at all.
 
Kaz said in the Reddit AMA that he would like to include full interiors for the VGTs, so I'm not sure what's going on about that.
The team is probably working on them separately from the machines for later addition, as to release the machine itself faster to keep up a continous schedule.
 
I zoomed in on the Subaru vgt while standing at the rear and found out it has an interior in photo mode ill post a picture in a second.
 
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