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Round: 5
Race Duration: 2 hrs 45 min
Track Type: permanent; 4.5 miles; 24 turns
Date/Location: July 15 - Salt Lake City, Utah
TV Broadcast (U.S./Tape Delay): CBS Sports July 16 - 2:00 PM Eastern

P1
2x Audi R10
1x Highcroft Lola AER
1x Autocon Lola AER
2x Dyson Lola AER

P2
2x Penske Porsche
1x Intersport Lola AER

GT1
2x Corvette C6.R
2x Aston Martin

GT2
2x BMW
1x AJR Porsche
1x Petersen/WL Porsche
2x Flying Lizard Porsche
2x Multimatic Panoz
1x Risi Competizione

Cars not racing:
1x Audi R8 - Car retired; Two Audi R10s on the grid
1x B-K Motorsports Courage Mazda - Heavily damaged during Lime Rock Park race
1x van der Steur Racing Lola - Car retired; Team is preparing a Radical SR9
1x Risi Competizione Ferrari - Damage from last round?

Notes:
-ALMS' first visit to Miller Motosports Park (see John's thread for discussion about the track)
-return of the Audi R10s
-small grid; 22 cars; 3 cars in P2 class; only one Risi Ferrari
-BMW impressed at Lime Rock; How will they do in Utah?
-still no Lexus
-another exciting finish in the GT1 class?
-Will Dyson be a factor? Or will the R10s run away with this one?
-Any predictions on pole position?
 
Very much looking forward to this race because this will be the first race I've seen at Miller Motorsports Park (MMP). I've looked over the track map of MMP a couple of times at their website and the layout looks like a good one. Hopefully the track map translates very well on to ground and tarmac.

Now about the race. I don't see any reason at all why the Audi R10 will not be on the overall pole. Their pace was very good at Le Mans and I don't see any problems in that translating into pace at MMP. I also think the Penske Porsches will be on pole in P2. It will be interesting to see how the pace of the Penske Porsches compares to the Audi R10s, especially because the Penske Porsches were able to keep up with the R8. GT1 will another good battle between the Astons and Corvettes. I somewhat expect the Porsches in GT2 to be the car to beat, though the single Ferrari and BMWs could give the Porsches a run.

Looks to be a good race! 👍
 
Notes:
-ALMS' first visit to Miller Motosports Park (see John's thread for discussion about the track)

I'm excited to see the new track. I've been looking forward to the round since it was announced.

-return of the Audi R10s

Glad to see the R10's in action.

-small grid; 22 cars; 3 cars in P2 class; only one Risi Ferrari

I think the sole Risi car should have a shot at the class win. GT2 provides great racing and this round should be no different.

-BMW impressed at Lime Rock; How will they do in Utah?

BMW's whoas, at least in my opinion have past. Good to see yet another competitor in GT2. And I mean that in every sense of the word COMPET(E)itor! Now when do WE get a Z4M GT?

-still no Lexus

I can wait. They'll only improve the GT2 class. Don't rush the new car fellas, we want QUALITY over quantity.

-another exciting finish in the GT1 class?

You're darn right! Where in the past we've seen the GT2 (GT) cars providing the best racing, GT1 are slowly evolving into the exciting ones to watch. One detractor, four cars.

-Will Dyson be a factor? Or will the R10s run away with this one?

I hope so. I love the Dyson racing effort. Unfortunately I think they are one car behind. By which I mean, if they had this car (and sorted it out) to compete against the R8, they woulda won a heck of a lot more races. As for this weekend, again... I hope so. I don't see them winning but they could be a factor, development of a car can come in inches, or leaps and bounds. Let's hope for leaps and bounds... for the racing's sake! If and/or when one or both Audi's break (as I expect one to do, Audi haven't had great luck with the R10 of course that is compared to the all-mighty R8) the Dyson's will take the P1 win and maybe an overall win. Porsche LM P2's will have a target on their back, just as Audi will. If Dyson's realiability and luck stay positive, than they might just be a factor.

-Any predictions on pole position?

Audi will take the P1 and overall pole. Porsche in LM P2, surprising the R10 Audi's because the last time they met the Porsche would break down if breathed upon wrong. From the Porsche LM P2's perspective, competitive at Sebring, competitive at MMP, why not? Again from Porsche's perspective, if the Audi's are breathed on wrong, something fails... fingers crossed. In GT1 Aston will grab the pole. The 'Vette's have finally been handicapped enough to break their backs. In the race however, they may sing a different tune, reliability and consistency will be the key (I should be a rapper!) In GT2 I see a Ferrari pole. I also hear the Porsche teams crying for the 997 (Sebring '07 baby!)

m.piedgros

Essentially this is a track where horsepower rules. That explains my choices for pole.
 
The Corvettes are once again facing more restrictions for this race. This isn't news to the team however, and they say the engineers have been hard at work to prepare for this race against the Aston Martins.

This makes me want the Corvettes to win even more. (the #3 car of course)
 
What all restrictions are being placed on the Corvettes at the moment? I know they have restrictions put on them at the moment, but never really heard what kind of restrictions.
 
VashTheStampede
What all restrictions are being placed on the Corvettes at the moment? I know they have restrictions put on them at the moment, but never really heard what kind of restrictions.
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*200 lbs. heavier than the Aston Martin
*10 liters less fuel
*various restrictor adjustments
 
My predictions for Pole Positions:
P1:Audi R10 TDI (#1)
P2:Porsche RS Spyder (#6)
GT1:Aston Martin DBR9 (#007)
GT2:Ferrari F430 GT
 
My predictions for pole position are not too far off RACECAR's...

P1 - #2 Audi Sport North America R10
P2 - #6 Penske Racing Porsche RS Spyder
GT1 - #009 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
GT2 - #44 Flying Lizard Porsche 911 GT3-RSR

Predictions for the race will come later (this is a tough one to call in the GT1 and GT2 classes)
 
dougiemeats
*200 lbs. heavier than the Aston Martin
*10 liters less fuel
*various restrictor adjustments
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Geez, that is a lot of extra weight. I would guess the restrictor adjustments are adjustments for less power?

Are those predictions for pole position or the finishing places?
 
Yes, less power. Like I've said before, the only competition adjustment the Aston Martins need are Michelins. Look at their performance at Le Mans with Michelins - they led for 18 hours.

Obviously it's not as easy as just switching tires, but I'm still not happy with all the restrictions. But then again, I'm not happy about the small grids either. At least we have the two best GT1 teams in the world here in America (although some may disagree).

Oh and the predictions are for pole position (I've edited the post).
 
Switching to Michelin tires would greatly improve the Aston Martins pace. Look what changing from Goodyears to Michelin tires did for Corvette Racing when they finally did it a couple years ago.

I don't think there are any better GT1 teams, with the GM backed Corvettes and the Prodrive back Astons, in the world at the moment. The Corvettes are very, very good and so are the Prodrive Astons.
 
VashTheStampede
I don't think there are any better GT1 teams, with the GM backed Corvettes and the Prodrive back Astons, in the world at the moment. The Corvettes are very, very good and so are the Prodrive Astons.
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I agree. Prodrive always has a factory-Quality cars that run very solid. Corvette Racing is the Best Factory GT1 team out there. to win races with big penalties is quite a accomplishment and very few or no cars have done that.
 
I'm not so sure. When the car isn't being penalized for it's speed those Maserati MC12's in Europe look good for ANY team.

m.piedgros
 
dougiemeats
Yes, less power. Like I've said before, the only competition adjustment the Aston Martins need are Michelins. Look at their performance at Le Mans with Michelins - they led for 18 hours.
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That's partly because the #4 got a puncture, but they were fast.
 
Either Speed World Challenge or the ALMS will give me my first glance of the full circuit. This course in Utah is kind of like some Japanese circuits where the designer tries to get in as much track as possible within small space. Small does not describe this circuit considering the full course is about one or two tenths longer than Road America. This will be a pure handling course. It's very important to build up your car to be able to take advantage of the many left-right and right-left combinations especially in the central section of the course. I don't know if I'll call this a car breaker or not, but only because I haven't yet seen a televised race utilizing the full course. Miller Motorsports Park kind of seems like an American Bahrain with the sort of dusty grounds. Speed Channel motorcycle road racing analyst, Freddie Spencer, said tha the course was like the Doha Circuit in Qatar (supposed to be pronounced like "cut-er").

The ALMS boys and girls will take to the track and give it their all, no questions asked. They either race hard or don't race at all. Play hard or go home. You dig? I will continue coming up with "FACT OR FICTION" statements much like ESPN does with some Sportscenter coverage. And it's simple. I'll come up with a statement regarding the race. If you think my statement is true and that we can expect to see this, go with "Fact." But if my statement is too good to be true and think will not happen when the checkered flag drops, go with "Fiction." Ladies and gentlemen, time to get involved. Let's begin.



MILLER MOTORSPORTS PARK - FACT OR FICTION?

1. Forget a P2 win... Penske will likely win this race.

2. Audi will finish 1-2, yet again, in dominating fashion.

3. Aston Martin won at Lime Rock, so they'll win again over the Corvettes. Uh oh... trouble for Pratt & Miller's boys!

4. Risi Competizione will finish 3rd or higher in GT2.

5. Petersen White Lightning will win again after a nice win in GT2 back at Lime Rock.

6. At least one current class-leading entry will fall out of the race and bring major implications to the points championship.

7. The hard-fought action at Miller Motorsports Park will produce no more than one caution.

8. A Lola will finish in the overall podium (unless you think Lola is so out of luck!).

9. The Panoz in GT2 will either crash out or finish lapped.

10. The GT2 podium will be a German sweep (BMW, Porsche, etc.).



Salt Lake City is next in order. So what do you think?

[UPDATE]
By the way, here is my thread on Miller Motorsports Park: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=82492
 
Penske will likely win this race that was when the R8 was around. the R10 has had most or all of its bugs worked out so there is no chance Penske will take an overall pole or win

Audi will finish 1-2, yet again, in dominating fashion thats pretty much may hold true for pole, but definately will for the race.

uh-oh...trouble for Pratt & Miller's Boys! lets not forget that this is a new circuit for everyone so anything can happen.

Risi Competizione will finish 3rd or higher in GT2 always strong contenders so they have a strong chance of maybe winning too.

Petersen White Lightning will win again likely that might not happen with the strenth shown by Team PTG and Risi Comptizione.

at least one class leading entry will fall out of the race hmmm,didn't that happen a week ago?:sly:

the hard fought action at Miller Motorsports Park will produce no more then one caution. if its hard-fought action, expect not just one, but two, maybe three cautions.

A Lola will finish on the overall podium. unless the Penske Porsches both fall out, that's not happening.

the Panoz in GT2 will either crash out or finish lapped it will certainly finish lapped because of the prototypes:sly: but I doubt it'll crash.

GT2 will be a German Podium sweep the only podium sweep I see is all porsche unless BMW steps up their game up.

thats my response.
 
JohnBM01
MILLER MOTORSPORTS PARK - FACT OR FICTION?

1. Forget a P2 win... Penske will likely win this race.

2. Audi will finish 1-2, yet again, in dominating fashion.

3. Aston Martin won at Lime Rock, so they'll win again over the Corvettes. Uh oh... trouble for Pratt & Miller's boys!

4. Risi Competizione will finish 3rd or higher in GT2.

5. Petersen White Lightning will win again after a nice win in GT2 back at Lime Rock.

6. At least one current class-leading entry will fall out of the race and bring major implications to the points championship.

7. The hard-fought action at Miller Motorsports Park will produce no more than one caution.

8. A Lola will finish in the overall podium (unless you think Lola is so out of luck!).

9. The Panoz in GT2 will either crash out or finish lapped.

10. The GT2 podium will be a German sweep (BMW, Porsche, etc.).
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1. Fiction. This is the R10's ideal circuit. Long front straight will be the killer for the Penske Porsche. Just as the Ullman Straight was at Sebring.

2. Fact. Both in P1 and Overall.

3. Fiction. But not really. Aston will win again. As resilliant as the Pratt & Miller boys are, NO ONE can win a Formula One race with a NASCAR truck... catch my drift. The ridiculous restrictions put on the 'Vettes will make 'em drop two in a row. Trouble for the 'Vettes however? Not really. ALMS are smart enough to go with the formula that worked best. The ways the cars appeared at Lime Rock seemed to work best. That's what we'll see next round.

4. Fiction. I think the BMW boys might win the event. Maybe even take a 1, 2 or 1, 3. The other car on the podium will be a Porsche. Don't get me wrong though. I'll be cheering for the Risi boys.

5. Fiction. IMO it will be a BMW on the top step of the podium. However, mistakes will be costly here, as they are everywhere I suppose, and we may see another Porsche win. Unofficially though, it's a BMW win.

6. Fiction. There will be a significant change however. The comparitively week effort of the Intersport P2's will have the first brick of their championship run taken out. You are gonna need to bring more than effort if you want to beat these cars!

7. Fact. It's a big track. Don't throw the full course unless the track is blocked in a certain section. (However, if I driver is seriously injured a Yellow or Red Flag may be required.)

8. Fiction. Luck is irrelevant when you're racing the likes of Audi R10 and Porsche LM P2 Spyder.

9. Fiction. Definitely fiction. The Panoz will be fighting with all of its GT2 compatriots right until the end.

10. Fact.

m.piedgros
 
1. FICTION - The R10s are back and they will have the pace over the Porsches.

2. FACT - I can't see Dyson lasting the whole race. Audi domination for now... (watch out in the later rounds though)

3. FICTION - Oliver Gavin and Olivier Beretta will take the #4 Corvette AND its 200-pound passenger to the finish line ahead of the sister Corvette and the Aston Martins.

4. FACT - Risi will get a podium

5. FICTION - Petersen White Lightning will not be the first car to win two races in the ultra-competitive GT2 class.

6. FICTION - I don't see anyone gaining much ground on Audi, Penske, Corvette, or Flying Lizard. (If it does happen, it will most likely be in GT2) Although I can see Autocon Motorsports slowly gain on Dyson (who would see it coming!?)

7. FACT - Cars will be more spread out in this long track, so one caution at the most.

8. FICTION - I expect to see a Porsche in the overall podium.

9. FICTION - I expect a stronger showing from the Panoz team.

10. FICTION - Almost, but there will be at least one non-German car on the GT2 podium.
 
This is a pretty good article from corvetteracing.com:
http://www.corvetteracing.com/history/2006releases/utah/utah1.shtml

The thin air of the Salt Lake Valley will affect both men and machine, as Cole explained: "There is about a 14 percent loss in engine horsepower compared to sea level," he said. "The air is less dense, so we won't have as much aerodynamic downforce and cooling. Fortunately the Corvette C6.Rs have plenty of cooling capacity, so the heat shouldn't create a problem."

The effects of altitude on the Corvettes' engine performance will be magnified by smaller intake restrictors that were mandated by the sanctioning body to balance competition in the GT1 class. The Corvette LS7.R engine's new 30.8 mm restrictors represent a 6 percent reduction in area from the 31.8 mm restrictors used previously, producing a corresponding decrease in engine output.
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This could mean problems for the other entries such as the Penske Porsches and R10s.
 
Thanks Road Dogg, good read.

Qualifying:

P1
#1 Audi Sport North America R10
#2 Audi Sport North America R10
#16 Dyson Racing Lola B06/10 AER
#20 Dyson Racing Lola B06/10 AER
#9 Highcroft Racing Lola EX257 AER
#12 Autocon Motorsports Lola EX257 AER

P2
#6 Penske Porsche RS Spyder
#7 Penske Porsche RS Spyder
#37 Intersport Racing Lola B05/40 AER

GT1
#007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
#009 Aston MartinRacing DBR9
#3 Corvette Racing C6.R
#4 Corvette Racing C6.R

GT2
#62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 430 - Starting from the back of the grid due to changes made on the car (tires)
#23 Alex Job Racing Porsche 911 GT3 RSR - Starting from the back of the grid due to a rules infringement
#31 Petersen Whitle Lightning Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
#45 Flying Lizard Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
#51 Multimatic Motorsports Panoz Esperante GT-LM
#44 Flying Lizard Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
#50 Multimatic Motorsports Panoz Esperante GT-LM
#21 BMW Team PTG M3
#22 BMW Team PTG M3
 
RACECAR
My predictions for Pole Positions:
P1:Audi R10 TDI (#1)
P2:Porsche RS Spyder (#6)
GT1:Aston Martin DBR9 (#007)
GT2:Ferrari F430 GT
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unexpectedly, I have guessed right. here's the pole sitters:
http://www.americanlemans.com/Gallery/84/847142006222636234.JPG
#1 Audi Sport North America Audi R10 TDI
http://www.americanlemans.com/Gallery/84/84714200622301234.JPG
#6 Penske Racing Porsche RS Spyder
http://www.americanlemans.com/Gallery/84/847142006222344187.JPG
#007 Aston Martin Racing Aston Martin DBR9
http://www.americanlemans.com/Gallery/84/84714200622300171.JPG
#62 Risi Competizione Ferrari 430 GT

[edit by mod]: Please don’t post ginormous images.
 
Good predictions RACECAR 👍

I caught the end of each qualifying session on Radio Le Mans, and the #1 Audi went off the track during its pole-clinching lap. I don't know how it still had the fastest lap of the session...

If they have the reliability, this race should be no problem for Audi. If not, the win will go to Penske.

Edit: LMSR.net reports that the #23 Alex Job Porsche's time was disallowed due to a ground clearance issue and the #31 Petersen White Lightning Porsche will take its place in second position in the GT2 grid.
 
Race Results By Class:

P1
1. #1 Audi R10 - 1st Overall
2. #16 Dyson Lola - 3rd Overall
3. #2 Audi R10
4. #20 Dyson Lola
5. #9 Highcroft Lola
6. #12 Autocon Lola

P2
1. #6 Penske Porsche - 2nd Overall
2. #37 Intersport Lola
3. #7 Penske Porsche

GT1
1. #007 Aston Martin
2. #009 Aston Martin
3. #3 Corvette
4. #4 Corvette

GT2
1. #62 Risi Ferrari - First class win this season
2. #31 Petersen/WL Porsche
3. #45 Flying Lizard Porsche
4. #23 Alex Job Porsche
5. #50 Panoz
6. #21 BMW
7. #51 Panoz
8. #44 Flying Lizard Porsche
9. #22 BMW
 
I did not get a chance to catch any of the race on TV. It is my sister's birthday, there was a bunch of family over, and my dad wanted to watch golf. Before the TV was switched to golf, I was watching the French Grand Prix replay not realizing the ALMS race was also on. I did get to see some of the French Grand Prix, though not a bunch of it and I got to see about five minutes of this race. Very lame! 👎

How close was the Penske Porsche to the top Audi? The very little of the race I did see was after a caution with about 10-15 minutes left in the race. I just managed to see the Penske Porsche staying pretty close to the tail of the Audi and that was about it.

Looks like the Corvettes got dominated today. If the rule changes for the Corvettes were meant to make them slower than the Astons, then they are working. But then again, it may have been like the last race at Lime Rock where the Corvettes were gaining on the Astons. I cannot really know since I did not get to see the race.

Good job Risi! I have wanted either Risi to win with the Ferrari or Team PTG to win with the BMW.
 
The Porsche finished in about the same situation as you left off. It was right on the Audi's tail as they crossed the line.

The Corvettes did get dominated. The caution instead of getting the Corvettes closer, threw them a lap behind the 1st place Aston.


This quote from corvetteracing.com sums up the race:

"The performance imbalance became apparent shortly after the race began at 6:05 p.m. as the Aston Martins opened a gap and then led every lap. Fellows and Gavin started in the No. 3 and No. 4 Compuware Corvette C6.Rs respectively, but the front-running Aston enjoyed a 15-second lead after four laps around the 4.5-mile road course. The Corvettes moved to second and third at the one-hour mark when an Aston made an early pit stop for tires. Beretta took over from Gavin and O'Connell replaced Fellows on the first round of pit stops after completing 26 laps, but 10 minutes later, the Astons were running first and second on fresh rubber.

The race's only full-course caution period with 25 minutes remaining sealed the Corvettes' fate as the yellow cars were caught behind the safety car and Enge gained nearly a lap. When the pits reopened, the Corvettes made their final pit stops for fuel only, but couldn't make up the deficit to the Aston Martins in the closing laps. O'Connell passed Beretta with nine minutes remaining to take the final place on the podium."
 
I really would have liked to see the race so I could see Miller Motorsport Park. Having said that, what are the impressions of the track of those who did get to view the race?

Did the Porsche have as fast or faster pace than the Audi R10? I think I had overheard one of the commentators say that the Porsche was able to lap the track faster than the Audi, but I am not for sure that is what I heard. I really am curious to see how the pace of the Penske Porsches compare to the R10 because if the Penske Porsches are close to the pace of the R10s, then it is going to be a very interesting rest of the season with the LMP2 Porsches competing with the LMP1 Audi's for overall wins.
 
MMP is an interesting track. It was strange not seeing much green in the background, but my first impressions of it were good. It's long and it was evident with Biela's early off during the first few corners that the drivers were still getting used to the new track.

The Porsche-Audi fight in the end was a bit deceiving, since the leading #2 Audi was 30+ seconds ahead of everyone else before the caution. That Audi had to settle with 4th overall after a tire puncture during the caution to green flag period, leaving the fight for the overall win to the sister Audi and the LMP2 Porsche. Had there not been a full-course caution period, it would have likely been a win for the #2 Audi ahead of the #1 Audi with a 30-35 second gap.

It looks like the unwanted 200-pound passenger in the Corvettes along with the other restrictions are taking them away from contention. I was happy that the #3 finished ahead of the #4, but it would have been nice if they were fighting for a win, not just podium spots, against the Aston Martins.

The Risi Competizione Ferrari, which was the fastest GT2 class-qualifier, had to start from the back of the grid (changed 2 tires after qualifying) but charged to the front for the GT2 win! I was excited, since luck hasn't exactly been on their side this season. I can't wait until the second car returns for Portland, and maybe we'll see a Lexus or two. They probably won't be competitive, but it would be a good sign for the project if they were there. BMW didn't perform as well as they did at Lime Rock Park, but just give them time to work out all of the issues with the car.

Here's a comparison of the best times for VashTheStampede:

#6 Porsche RS Spyder 2:23.665
#7 Porsche RS Spyder 2:24.156
#1 Audi R10 2:24.437
#2 Audi R10 2:24.542
The Dysons were in the 25s.

the-paddock.net has a very good race report for those that missed the race. No time to rest guys, Portland's next week!
 
Fantastic race and a fantastic race track. Miller Motorsports track is something I want to see in GT5.
 
dougiemeats
MMP is an interesting track. It was strange not seeing much green in the background, but my first impressions of it were good. It's long and it was evident with Biela's early off during the first few corners that the drivers were still getting used to the new track.

The Porsche-Audi fight in the end was a bit deceiving, since the leading #2 Audi was 30+ seconds ahead of everyone else before the caution. That Audi had to settle with 4th overall after a tire puncture during the caution to green flag period, leaving the fight for the overall win to the sister Audi and the LMP2 Porsche. Had there not been a full-course caution period, it would have likely been a win for the #2 Audi ahead of the #1 Audi with a 30-35 second gap.

It looks like the unwanted 200-pound passenger in the Corvettes along with the other restrictions are taking them away from contention. I was happy that the #3 finished ahead of the #4, but it would have been nice if they were fighting for a win, not just podium spots, against the Aston Martins.

The Risi Competizione Ferrari, which was the fastest GT2 class-qualifier, had to start from the back of the grid (changed 2 tires after qualifying) but charged to the front for the GT2 win! I was excited, since luck hasn't exactly been on their side this season. I can't wait until the second car returns for Portland, and maybe we'll see a Lexus or two. They probably won't be competitive, but it would be a good sign for the project if they were there. BMW didn't perform as well as they did at Lime Rock Park, but just give them time to work out all of the issues with the car.

Here's a comparison of the best times for VashTheStampede:

#6 Porsche RS Spyder 2:23.665
#7 Porsche RS Spyder 2:24.156
#1 Audi R10 2:24.437
#2 Audi R10 2:24.542
The Dysons were in the 25s.

the-paddock.net has a very good race report for those that missed the race. No time to rest guys, Portland's next week!
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Seems the competition adjustments for the Corvettes are not quite working as intended. It seems the extra weight and less power has really hurt the Corvette team. It really is a shame that extreme success has to be punished so harshly. Maybe their competition adjustments will change to just added weight and back to the original restrictor size, though I doubt that will happen.

That's pretty amazing that the #6 Porsche's best lap time was almost a whole second faster than the #1 Audi. Hopefully for the rest of the season we can get a battle between Audi, Porsche, and Dyson can discover more pace.
 

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