Am I missing out by not doing the 20 million credit glitch?

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I'm all for playing the game the right way, you know racing for money. That being said the pay outs are so small its not even fun, cause it takes forever to even get a nice car without buying those ridiculous micro-transactions. Come on PD 50$ for x- amount of credits that's 10$ short of what I PAID for the GAME.I Don't have money to blow left and right, I have a family as I'm sure most of us have lives, kids and jobs. I don't have time to grind for DAYS to get a race car or supercar. I'm a hardcore car fan, I want to come home from a long day at work or escape the wife:lol: and be able to go on do a few races by some cars mod them and tune them, and go cruising. These racing Sims keep me sane and able to escape my problems for a little. It's very frustrating knowing its going to take forever to get some decent cars. IMO it's just plain greed the way they made the payout almost forcing you to by the micros. They will make plenty of money off of DLC cars and tracks. They need to go back to the old payout system. The seasonal races on gt5 got me excited to race for them beans. Now its just like " Man this is going to take forever." Other than the payouts the game is great and I enjoy the new cars they put in. Sorry for the long post my rant is over:banghead:
 
Problem is there are so many cars that are 20m, so you ever never get to play with them if you do it legit.
One of the good things about a car game is you can try cars you never could IRL, but then the game stops you,
I done the glitch to sample all the 1m + cars, but I'm using my basic cars for single player.
Also when I play online, I don't want to be excluded because I can't afford a car, or mods to play with others.
 
I did the glitch 3 times to get some crazy cars, and am done most of the races except for the S class and some other misc ones. After I did the glitch though I lost interest in the game.. it ruined it for me.
 
Lock2Lock
Probably never will be patched. To be completely honest, I doubt that there is any way to patch it in fact.

On the other hand, I will rather do this and still keep track of how much money I actually have so I can still do my career mode legitimately. I am not paying a ridiculous amount of money to get barley anything in return. I do not like PD's choice on the money cards. That is just stupid.
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There are plenty of things that might be possible, that either prevent or minimise the use of the glitch:
1. Each further update makes it more and more of a hassle to delete and update, reducing the number of people using one PS3 only and one HDD only
2. It is probably possible to make game saves unreadable in older versions. I hear that if you have the Delta Wing in your garage, if you select it you get kicked out of the garage. That same coding could be applied to the other cars
3. Place a limit of the number of cars that can be bought per day, or number of times an M4 can be purchased in a 24 hour period or whatever
4. Apply a fix that cannot be deleted, and installed like the mini updates that have already been installed, that prevents various cars sold for credits. Either the new DLC or the current 20,000,000 credit cars
5. Apply a fix that ties to your game save, that warns you that your game save will also be deleted
6. Whilst testing various solutions, in the meantime they could make the new cars cost 20,000,000 credits

or probably countless other things that can be done, almost certainly, PD is working on a patch that will prevent the glitch from continuing to work (unless they don't want to ...?)

In other words, if you want to make use of the glitch, do so sooner rather than later, but read the FAQ in other thread carefully.

And if you don't like the idea, fair enough. If not sure, or worried about PD taking action (if they did - not sure the bad publicity will be worth it!), then create a second account ... have a clean one, and one that you've got all the cars you dreamed of using.
 
I think what some people forget, and by some people I mean the people complaining about the glitch being used, is that not everyone has the time to grind races for hours on end to get the cars they want. Me for example, I work 39 hours a week normally (more at the moment because of christmas), I live with my girlfriend, with a dog (golden retriever) in a beautiful part of the UK, I get maybe, 3 hours on a good day of GT time at the moment? More if I have a day off the my girlfriend is working.

Now 3 hours a day isn't enough to continuously grind 20 million credits to get cars I want to use in the game. It's also unfair that I should work hard and spend my money on pretend money at an extortionate cost. With all that in mind, why wouldn't someone like me use the glitch a couple of times to get cars I want to tinker and play about with? Like someone above said, it doesn't make me a faster driver, doesn't mean I'll suddenly win every online race. Just means that when I wake up and have half an hour or so to kill before work I can jump on, pick a car I want to blast around in, do so, be happy and not worry about only have 1000 credits because the races pay badly.
 
DDAAVVIIDD82
I for one would love it if the savedata were somehow "tagged" by the purchase of multiple copies of the same car prior to the deletion of the gamedata, only to be missing upon re-updating, making the user stick out like a sore thumb to any program designed to find cheaters and ban them from online play. Wishful thinking?
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Nah. Just schadenfreude.



Akwaaba
There are plenty of things that might be possible, that either prevent or minimise the use of the glitch:
1. Each further update makes it more and more of a hassle to delete and update, reducing the number of people using one PS3 only and one HDD only
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This is true, and probably the only really feasible one for PD to do (aside from reprinted discs) even though it isn't an active fix (the corollary being that its effectiveness is curtailed by people simply not downloading the later updates; as the case happened with hybrids in GT5).

Akwaaba
4. Apply a fix that cannot be deleted, and installed like the mini updates that have already been installed, that prevents various cars sold for credits. Either the new DLC or the current 20,000,000 credit cars
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This one is impossible simply by nature of how the PS3 XMB works. They can't not let you delete stuff from your game data folder; and that is where update data goes.
 
Tornado
Nah. Just schadenfreude.

This one is impossible simply by nature of how the PS3 XMB works. They can't not let you delete stuff from your game data folder; and that is where update data goes.
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Are you sure? I was referring to the mini-updates that have been installed. For example: Try deleting the mini-update that added the BMW M4 Coupe to the dealership! We do not know what the limitations are for these mini updates, but we do know that several have been released since the launch of the game. One of these could be used to update a key piece of code that could prevent the glitch from working.
 
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Honestly half of those will make it take more time, but will never stop it.

About number two on your list.

That has nothing to do with coding. It is a issue with the naming process. The same thing happens with the glitch car if you are in it when you delete your game data. It is just a problem with the naming process because the Mercedes Benz didn't technically exist in the garage before the update.

Honestly PD is trying to get you too buy the money cards which I will not do. I will do the career mode legitimately but I play online I will use my money to enjoy the cars. I have my career money noted down before I did the glitch. I just didn't see PD being one of those to try to do the money card route. Which I am not to happy about.

I would be fine with working to get the money by doing races over and over for chump change. I have done the math on it and I would have to do the same race over and over so many times it is unbelievable. In that case I would be no better than someone that is doing this glitch. Boosting is Boosting no matter what way you go about it. So if you are grinding you are a booster. If you do this glitch you are a booster. So in the end it isn't a big deal.

But seriously there is no way to patch this without going through the save data itself.
 
It's funny if GT6 didn't have microtransactions I wouldn't have bothered with this simply because I like earning my way through the game but the MT's(if that's even valid) made me wary and I guess I saw it as an insurance policy for me to enjoy the game.

I think that PD at the moment are stuck between a rock and a hard place, if there were no MT's in this game then we could all validly say that this glitch is for people who don't have the time or the patience to grind so they can just get the cars they want but PD already told us that's what the MT's are for so if they patch this then the community will be in uproar simply as a protest because of PD's stance on the MT's originally. My guess is that PD are basically trying to come up with a damage limitation way of dealing with this that won't piss off their userbase.

It's the best thing that happened given the circumstances surrounding the economy. We have dealt the first punch to PD and will hold much stronger sway when it comes to negotiations on how we want this game balanced. GT community 1, Polyphony Digital 0....
 
Akwaaba
Are you sure? I was referring to the mini-updates that have been installed. For example: Try deleting the mini-update that added the BMW M4 Coupe to the dealership! We do not know what the limitations are for these mini updates, but we do know that several have been released since the launch of the game. One of these could be used to update a key piece of code that could prevent the glitch from working.
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When I did this glitch I deleted my game data and when I went to reinstall the patch it had to download all those mini updates again so it's tied to the game data and is completely deletable. The only reasonable way PD could patch this is by changing the save game data to make it unreadable by the older versions. That could be dangerous though so I think they won't do that. It's funny the error they made is such a simple programming error, either a) they had a default amount to give out if the car data was unreadable, b) there was an integer overflow problem hence the exorbitant amount of money or c) for people with tin foil hats on, some programmer at PD used his position to kill the microtransactions.
 
iLex
Well, take the roughly 7 million you earn with career mode and then compare it to the roughly 1.1 billion you need to buy all cars… You can just start by comparing it to one 20 million credit car and continue from there.
That puts that glitch in a whole other light.
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It's quite logical you need to play the entire career a few times to buy over 1200 cars. If you really,really,really want to use the glitch,do so when you did all the races and you are tired of grinding. Trust me,when I hacked my save on GT5 to get a couple billion credits,it just became boring.
 
I did it twice to get the cars I want to tune and race. Including a few duplicates to keep some stock and tune others, I have about 300 cars. I have no interest in Aspec/offline whatsover and it was an excruciating bore to me. Others like it and taking months to get the garage I have now, that's great for them, just not for me. Ultimately you have to do what makes you happy and what your conscience will allow you to live with and I have no regrets whatsoever about filling my garage. It was an unforseen mistake in game design that led to this, and Sony/PD is paying the price. Tough luck. :lol:
 
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just a random thought.

what if there were no microtransactions, and the payouts were actually decent for races, would you have paid $120 for the game and been ok with it?

:)
 
Tornado
Nah. Just schadenfreude.





This is true, and probably the only really feasible one for PD to do (aside from reprinted discs) even though it isn't an active fix (the corollary being that its effectiveness is curtailed by people simply not downloading the later updates; as the case happened with hybrids in GT5).



This one is impossible simply by nature of how the PS3 XMB works. They can't not let you delete stuff from your game data folder; and that is where update data goes.
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They should be able to easily send out an update creating tags in the save file to monitor and/or block transactions of the type used for this glitch. You could delete game data all you want but the only way to get rid of it would be to delete your save game. Youd then regain the tag anytime you went online to get the update allowing you to buy the cars in question. Otherwise they could just restrict the ability to sell any future vision and dlc cars just like they already have for the anniversary cars, thus eliminating this glitch. The latter wouldnt suprise me one bit.
 
They got greedy with the micro, or rather macrotransactions, and to compound, have miscalculated the in game economics AGAIN. Bad combination.

Remember in GT5 it was the same issues. PD fixed it somewhat with having consecutive day online logon credit multipliers, but it was still even then way too grindy to get up to the pack of 20mil cars. Does a gap seem logical between a handful of 20mil cars and then next closest back down to around 6 mil (Alfa aside at 10mil)? One single $20mil car would cost me (North Am at least) $150 in real cash, when the game itself is only $60. Disconnect? Problem is, the way they have it set up they can't get a relationship for the macrotransactions when there's such a $ spread between the 20mils and everything below.

Some have already said it... PD tried to screw their franchise loyalty base royally, and they've ended up getting bit by this glitch. To me that's some good and very therapeutic karma.

I made up a grinding calculator in Excel for GT5 out of my own curiosity, and I'd love to see the #'s for GT6 using an updated calculator. I just haven't gotten around to it, and don't know if I will.
Games can be hard, games can take a long time to build up enough in terms of a collection (weapons, experience points, whatever; and in this case a garage of cars), but a game should never be so far out of touch with reality on the difference between enjoyment and repetitive torture. GT6 has reached very very uncharted territory on this one.

I can see people having some moral heartburn over exploiting this glitch if the in game economy even closely resembled something sane, but given how utterly absurd they have structured it, I applaud every single person who has acted on this glitch. PD needs to wake up and hire some people with a basic grasp of value for time and money in there or something... less astronomers and astronauts, more mathemeticians and economists.
 
zotobom
It's quite logical you need to play the entire career a few times to buy over 1200 cars. If you really,really,really want to use the glitch,do so when you did all the races and you are tired of grinding. Trust me,when I hacked my save on GT5 to get a couple billion credits,it just became boring.
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'A few times' you say... It would be 158 times the whole career. Talk about boring :)
Of course we will get some more seasonals and such, but I wonder how fast we will be able to fill our garage with the cars we really want.
Some people just use the glitch to get some high prices cars they really want as well as a bit of pocket money to pay for idiotic body repairs and such. You can of course take as much or as little as you want, so you can make the game as much fun (or as boring) as you want.

As the glitch might get patched it might not be possible to do after all the races (depending on how fast your career is going).
 
I'm new here, and I just had a quick question: If I use this glitch, since it requires deleting some saved data, will I lose my game progress? Will I also lose my pre-order bonus cars? I don't even want that much money, just enough to buy an X2011 or something.
 
Shakie666
I'm new here, and I just had a quick question: If I use this glitch, since it requires deleting some saved data, will I lose my game progress? Will I also lose my pre-order bonus cars? I don't even want that much money, just enough to buy an X2011 or something.
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You don't loose any progress. Because you are deleting your game data not save data
 
Could polyphony punish people who use this glitch? Now I'm worried, I don't want to be banned from online or anything.
 
I wasn't doing the glitch, because I just wanted to "play the game" but frankly... If I didn't do the glitch I wouldn't have been able to play online. So I did it tonight. Haven't played since but I have a feeling it'll be nice. Some of the parts of GT I enjoy most are actually just hanging with all my awesome cars, and now I'll be able to enjoy that even more.
 
Shakie666
Good to know. Out of curiosity, why couldn't they punish you though? What's stopping them?
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I don't know this for certain, but I'll take a guess anyway. It's probably due to the fact that doing this glitch won't affect other players. Period. Unlike hybriding in GT5, which could potentially affect other players (especially online). This is more from a moral standpoint, so PD might see things differently.
 
soap_hand
Every online lobby I have joined there has been someone talking about the glitch and how to do it. I feel extraordinarily behind in the community in terms of cars acquired. Is it possible for PD to take action and somehow remove this glitch and revert profiles back to normal? If not, should I just join the party and get this over with? I feel at an extreme disadvantage in online races as you know 9/10 guys have a whole bunch of credits and the nicest cars/tunes as a result.
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You're losing time grinding/paying with real money, if you like those options that's fine, if you don't then you should use the glitch and save many hours of grinding.
 
Shakie666
Good to know. Out of curiosity, why couldn't they punish you though? What's stopping them?
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1241Penguin
I don't know this for certain, but I'll take a guess anyway. It's probably due to the fact that doing this glitch won't affect other players. Period. Unlike hybriding in GT5, which could potentially affect other players (especially online). This is more from a moral standpoint, so PD might see things differently.
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The glitch does affect other players. I imagine the people who actually paid money for credits aren't very happy about it.

If they don't fix it it's probably because of technical challenges. If they do want to punish the players who used the glitch, how can they tell if the credits in their save file were legitimately acquired or not?

I am really curious to see what they do, and I think they will have to do something because it undermines the microtransactions.
 
archie_aileron
The glitch does affect other players. I imagine the people who actually paid money for credits aren't very happy about it.

If they don't fix it it's probably because of technical challenges. If they do want to punish the players who used the glitch, how can they tell if the credits in their save file were legitimately acquired or not?

I am really curious to see what they do, and I think they will have to do something because it undermines the microtransactions.
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Simple answer: scan for numerous VGT or M4 in garage.
 
Some poeple will do it once, some will do it a thousand times. People will need to do this quick, so they'll buy a lot of the same car that will give them the money.
 
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