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Tucker is speaking ill of dear Leader, and doesn't know it. Mark Milley was nominated by Trump.
"I am pleased to announce my nomination of four-star General Mark Milley, Chief of Staff of the United States Army – as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, replacing General Joe Dunford, who will be retiring," Trump tweeted. "I am thankful to both of these incredible men for their service to our Country! Date of transition to be determined."
 
I'm pretty ticked off about these people. Their loyalties are sus. If they've got the balls to say these things in public then I assume it means they believe it and it's concerning enough that if I were in charge I'd be keeping an eye on these folks in some official-but-hushed capacity. Based on the fact that that has actually happened many times in the past I have to assume it's currently happening. It's one thing when a bunch of nobodies like you and me are questioning our country's choices but when people as high-profile and with such large platforms as these are doing it, well, that's how you spark an insurrection and that's exactly what already happened and they're still not satisfied. I literally cried Jan 6 watching in disbelief and I have a terrible feeling this anti-American situation is going to get brutally worse before it gets better. And I can't even do anything about it, my hard-right-leaning "friends" don't even believe their own political party. Presenting them final reports written by their own people doesn't work anymore. They've got to be mentally ill or something, I don't know what the hell is going on. All I can really do is watch some F1 and play some disc golf to distract myself from the fact that I don't know who walking past me in the grocery I might see on TV the next day trying to steal the Constitution.
 
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I'm pretty ticked off about these people. Their loyalties are sus. If they've got the balls to say these things in public then I assume it means they believe it and it's concerning enough that if I were in charge I'd be keeping an eye on these folks in some official-but-hushed capacity. Based on the fact that that has actually happened many times in the past I have to assume it's currently happening. It's one thing when a bunch of nobodies like you and me are questioning our country's choices but when people as high-profile and with such large platforms as these are doing it, well, that's how you spark an insurrection and that's exactly what already happened and they're still not satisfied. I literally cried Jan 6 watching in disbelief and I have a terrible feeling this anti-American situation is going to get brutally worse before it gets better. And I can't even do anything about it, my hard-right-leaning "friends" don't even believe their own political party. Presenting them final reports written by their own people doesn't work anymore. They've got to be mentally ill or something, I don't know what the hell is going on. All I can really do is watch some F1 and play some disc golf to distract myself from the fact that I don't know who walking past me in the grocery I might see on TV the next day trying to steal the Constitution.
That's the hidden secret; they don't. But, it scares their base into supporting & giving them money.

Carlson is a grifter, just like Crowder, Rubin, etc. Half the nonsense they spout is done with dollar signs in their eyes, that's part of the reason they don't acknowledge anything that makes them look incorrect.
 
That's the hidden secret; they don't. But, it scares their base into supporting & giving them money.

Carlson is a grifter, just like Crowder, Rubin, etc. Half the nonsense they spout is done with dollar signs in their eyes, that's part of the reason they don't acknowledge anything that makes them look incorrect.
That's fine but that's not my point. Tuck 'n Cuck isn't just making money off this, he's inciting action. That's a way bigger deal. I don't give a crap how Tucker makes his money, I give a crap about what happens afterward. His position in this Trumpism cult is like some sort of mob boss or something, I don't know. He's a leader and he's spreading dangerous ideas. I don't give a crap how many papers he sells - I believe he could be a dangerous person.

Either way, it makes me feel kind of warm and fuzzy that the top brass of the military are now fully aware of what politicians and pundits think of them. Call it a moment of clarity.
 
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That's fine but that's not my point. Tuck 'n Cuck isn't just making money off this, he's inciting action. That's a way bigger deal. I don't give a crap how Tucker makes his money, I give a crap about what happens afterward. His position in this Trumpism cult is like some sort of mob boss or something, I don't know. He's a leader and he's spreading dangerous ideas. I don't give a crap how many papers he sells - I believe he could be a dangerous person.

Either way, it makes me feel kind of warm and fuzzy that the top brass of the military are now fully aware of what politicians and pundits think of them. Call it a moment of clarity.
See, Fox News already headed that off as well.
A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit against Fox News after lawyers for the network argued that no "reasonable viewer" would take the network's primetime star Tucker Carlson seriously.

I get what you're saying, but unfortunately, he's going to keep saying dumb stuff until someone gets caught doing something dumb & specifically says Tucker's words were the entire reason they committed their actions. Even then, nothing will probably be done. Tucker will only stop spouting his schpiel when he himself does something dumb. We caught the faintest hint of it when Gaetz was on his show and insinuated Tucker knew of his actions.
 
he's inciting action
But that action must be imminent and unlawful, and it needs to be reasonably demonstrated as such, for speech to not be protected against government action.
 
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Conservatives and Fascists turning on the military is a great way to reduce the defence budget.

5-D galaxy brain chess play.
 
Conservatives and Fascists turning on the military is a great way to reduce the defence budget.

5-D galaxy brain chess play.
While I would very much love to see that, I feel like it would take a literal miracle of God for either side of the isle to willingly lower the defense budget.
 
America isn't all rainbows and Republicans, we also have catastrophic flooding!



A state of emergency has been declared by the Michigan governor for the Detroit area. Apparently about 6 inches of rain fell yesterday the 25th. A good friend of mine was driving back from the Detroit airport late last night and actually got trapped in the car with his girlfriend for several hours on the sidewalk. They took a nap in the car on their little island, then spend two hours figuring a way through the surface streets from the airport to Royal Oak, finally getting home around 7am. Wow. People were often forced to drive on the sidewalk or through front yards and up and over curbs just to keep their doors above water.



@Joey D @R1600Turbo @Eunos_Cosmo Y'all want any of this wooder?
 
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America isn't all rainbows and Republicans, we also have catastrophic flooding!



A state of emergency has been declared by the Michigan governor for the Detroit area. Apparently about 6 inches of rain fell yesterday the 25th. A good friend of mine was driving back from the Detroit airport late last night and actually got trapped in the car with his girlfriend for several hours on the sidewalk. They took a nap in the car on their little island, then spend two hours figuring a way through the surface streets from the airport to Royal Oak, finally getting home around 7am. Wow. People were often forced to drive on the sidewalk or through front yards and up and over curbs just to keep their doors above water.



@Joey D @R1600Turbo @Eunos_Cosmo Y'all want any of this wooder?


Yup.

Also, Detroit and poorly engineered roads, name a more iconic duo.

But ya that's a crazy amount of rain, although it's not unheard of to get massive rainstorms in Detroit. They typically happen when a hurricane comes inland and pushes all the moisture to the north. I remember in like 2010 the whole area flooded after a hurricane hit Texas or something.
 
They typically happen when a hurricane comes inland and pushes all the moisture to the north.
That might have happened actually. There was quite a tropical storm down yonder several days ago and in general there's been a big humid push from the south. It's quite miserable out there right now and it's not even July yet.
 
Dear Leader tells his Q-Anon followers to keep their merch out.
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I watched some of the rally itself. It was nothing more than the same old "hits", an old cash grab. I did laugh when he attributed, "Nothing to fear but fear itself" to JFK.
 
...or the DA doesn't want to touch a former president and deal with the circus and death threats that will follow it.
Definitely this one, except we can replace the kind but ultimately unnecessarily broad "a former president" with Trump specifically, because none other have had the support of domestic terrorists and just general ****ing garbage like he does.
 
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Definitely this one, except we can replace the kind but ultimately unnecessarily broad "a former president" with Trump specifically, because none other have had the support of domestic terrorists and just general ****ing garbage like he does.
Where were you 2016 when everyone was crying not my President, calling for an Obama 3rd term and the rioting("protest" domestic terrorism IMO)?

How soon ya forgot. Y'all ain't got nothing better to do but continue to bash him cause god forbid y'all say anything about Uncle Joe.
I'm still laughing at y'all calling his speechs eloquent and a breath of fresh air. He can't even finish a sentence.
Where's the outrage over Biden's budget?
Hypocritical TDS

#Tulsi 2024
 
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No charges against Trump from NY? It looks like they're charging people within the Trump organization for failure to pay taxes, but not Trump himself.
Well it does also say he won’t be charged in this indictment and that the investigation is still ongoing. Sounds to me like if Trump is directly involved it’s in a different area that isn’t ready for indictments yet.
 
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Where were you 2016 when everyone was crying not my President, calling for an Obama 3rd term and the rioting("protest" domestic terrorism IMO)?

How soon ya forgot. Y'all ain't got nothing better to do but continue to bash him cause god forbid y'all say anything about Uncle Joe.
I'm still laughing at y'all calling his speechs eloquent and a breath of fresh air. He can't even finish a sentence.
Where's the outrage over Biden's budget?
Hypocritical TDS

#Tulsi 2024
There's literally nothing stopping you from sharing anything about Joe, yourself. Joe and the Democratic politicians have been criticized by folks here. I know Joey, Huske, Danoff, and Keef have made comments questioning Democrat decisions. I guess it's hard to see an equivalency though since Biden doesn't live on Twitter 12 hours a day typing the first thing that comes into his head, therefore "bashing" him isn't as easy. Perhaps that's why the best you had to share about him "being out of touch" was his favorite musician being an old female singer? Shocking news: Old Man likes Old Music.

I haven't seen posts calling his speeches eloquent, but they are a breath of fresh air in the perception that he actually comes across professional. But if this is what you want:
“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

Well, he has started up his rallies again. And, he doesn't seem much better mentally than what Joe is accused of. I watched that rally, he went off on multiple tangents, just completely drifting off from 1 topic to the next b/c he ends up riling himself up internally.
 
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Where were you 2016 when everyone was crying not my President, calling for an Obama 3rd term and the rioting("protest" domestic terrorism IMO)?

How soon ya forgot. Y'all ain't got nothing better to do but continue to bash him cause god forbid y'all say anything about Uncle Joe.
I'm still laughing at y'all calling his speechs eloquent and a breath of fresh air. He can't even finish a sentence.
Where's the outrage over Biden's budget?
Hypocritical TDS

#Tulsi 2024
Who the **** are you talking to? What the **** are you even saying?
 
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Where's the outrage over Biden's budget?
Fox News. The outrage is on Fox News.

The proposal from Biden is large. It's not the worst time to spend large though. At interest rates hovering around inflation, borrowing is a good move for most people right now (including the US government). That being said, it does matter what the money is spent on.

Think of it this way, when the US government borrows money, it can invest well or it can invest poorly. If it invests well, it gets a favorable rate of return in the from of increased GDP and expanded tax base. If it invests poorly, less return. When interest rates are around the target for inflation, the borrowing is essentially zero cost. In order for the principle to be paid back out of the investment (assuming 30 year treasuries here), the rate of return has to be about 2.3% per year. So if the US government can "invest" in America with an expected impact to GDP at about 2.3% of the investment per year (seems... trivial), then the budget can be whatever it needs to be and it costs nothing.

That's the concept anyway. There is room to quibble about the details. TL;DR - interest rates are effectively zero, so borrowing is a good idea, but you still have to spend well.

Edit: None of the above has to do with principle, just the practical implications of a big budget.

Edit 2: Along the lines of those practical implications, investment in something like infrastructure tends to pay back many times over. Roads being one of the best ROIs across the world. For something like defense, the argument is much less straight forward. It's easy for defense spending to be a total loss. On the otherhand, under the right conditions, and with the right investment, defense can be a good return. It's just a much more complicated picture.
 
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Where were you 2016 when everyone was crying not my President, calling for an Obama 3rd term and the rioting("protest" domestic terrorism IMO)?

How soon ya forgot. Y'all ain't got nothing better to do but continue to bash him cause god forbid y'all say anything about Uncle Joe.
I'm still laughing at y'all calling his speechs eloquent and a breath of fresh air. He can't even finish a sentence.
Where's the outrage over Biden's budget?
Hypocritical TDS

#Tulsi 2024
As an observer from afar, my assessment of the Biden situation is that a lot of people voted for 'Uncle Joe' just to get rid of Big Don, not because they actually wanted Joe Biden. Which is completely understandable, most people here think Trump's a complete muppet. It's also very amusing to see people calling Biden and Harris 'far left radicals' and 'socialists', when in reality they're probably more in line with our right wing government here in the UK haha
 
Think of it this way, when the US government borrows money, it can invest well or it can invest poorly.
I can't see the US government investing it any other way than poorly though. Infrastructure would be a good investment, our highway system is pretty awful, we have no high-speed rail service, water delivery is ancient in many areas, bridges are crumbling, Internet distribution is horrible, etc. But even then, they're going to botch it.

Knowing the US government, they'll spend the money on something that only benefits whoever is writing the most checks for bribes campaign contributions without really doing anything to benefit the average citizen. Or if they do invest in infrastructure, they're going to build bridges where they aren't needed because some crony wants a contract in that area or a tunnel connecting two towns that don't need connecting.

Our top priority should be fixing the existing stuff that needs fixing followed by modernizing our water and power systems since those three things are going to be huge in the years to come. Hopefully, the collapse in Miami has shown just what failing infrastructure that isn't dealt with can do.

With defense, I'm ok investing in defense, but the process needs to be better than it has been. The F-35 project showed what bad investment looks like.

Or just cut spending and give me an actual tax break instead of Trump's "tax break" which gave me a few dollars more a month. I'd be happy to spend more money in the economy if I had more money to spend.
 
I can't see the US government investing it any other way than poorly though. Infrastructure would be a good investment, our highway system is pretty awful, we have no high-speed rail service, water delivery is ancient in many areas, bridges are crumbling, Internet distribution is horrible, etc. But even then, they're going to botch it.

Knowing the US government, they'll spend the money on something that only benefits whoever is writing the most checks for bribes campaign contributions without really doing anything to benefit the average citizen. Or if they do invest in infrastructure, they're going to build bridges where they aren't needed because some crony wants a contract in that area or a tunnel connecting two towns that don't need connecting.

Our top priority should be fixing the existing stuff that needs fixing followed by modernizing our water and power systems since those three things are going to be huge in the years to come. Hopefully, the collapse in Miami has shown just what failing infrastructure that isn't dealt with can do.

With defense, I'm ok investing in defense, but the process needs to be better than it has been. The F-35 project showed what bad investment looks like.

Or just cut spending and give me an actual tax break instead of Trump's "tax break" which gave me a few dollars more a month. I'd be happy to spend more money in the economy if I had more money to spend.
This is why I said we can quibble about the details. At the extreme, a lack of infrastructure can cripple an economy. At the other extreme, government spending can feed cronies, net nothing, and result in debt that needs to be paid back from no gains. So the assumption about whether the government can identify and actually act on areas of good return kinda drives whether you think this is a good idea. The return on investment needs to be about 2.3% of the amount borrowed per year (assuming 30 year treasuries). So for example, on $6T that would need to net of about $140B per year. Not exactly a lot, but not zero.

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What this is kinda saying is that it's not enough to just look at the price tag and say "we're going broke!!". You actually have to argue about what's in the plan to figure out whether it's a good idea.
 
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Where were you 2016 when everyone was crying not my President, calling for an Obama 3rd term and the rioting("protest" domestic terrorism IMO)?

How soon ya forgot. Y'all ain't got nothing better to do but continue to bash him cause god forbid y'all say anything about Uncle Joe.
I'm still laughing at y'all calling his speechs eloquent and a breath of fresh air. He can't even finish a sentence.
Where's the outrage over Biden's budget?
Hypocritical TDS

#Tulsi 2024
Who the ** are you talking to? What the ** are you even saying?
Same vibe:

 
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