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Billionaires are functionally living cancer on the societal level. They hoard all the wealth generated in a society and stick it in a Scrooge McDuck dragon hoard. It doesn't get taxed. It has no velocity. It isn't spent. It goes nowhere. It just sits there. Accruing more wealth. Wealth that is never invested anywhere or does anything. And they consider taxes class warfare on them.

This is why its 100% better to just write checks for poor people. Because they actually pump the money back into the economy. Poor people need to buy food. They need to buy entertainment. They need to fix their house or get a car. The inflationary pressures that occur as a result still vastly pale in comparison to the amount of wealth that effectively can never trickle back down into society being utterly wasted. And especially the fact that billionaires seem to actively be pushing for a recession, so that they can buy and capture even more wealth from the little guys. And when I say little, that includes even your average millionaire.

A billionaire still only eats maybe 3 meals a day. They don't eat 200 meals and give that money into the food industry to make up for the starving proles that they took the wealth from. This is the literal behavior of a cancer cell by the way. It diverts insane amounts of resources to itself that it doesn't need and ends up starving out the rest of the system until it collapses. The billionaire class is a societal level tumor that will kill off the nation host if they are just left to do whatever they want with total impunity.

Also, the idea that rich people will just pick up their stuff and flee the United States is silly. Like they can't abandon places like NYC which is functionally the capital city of the planet. And if they break laws trying to hide the wealth they owe you, that's when they get held accountable by the law. Tax evasion is a global problem that affects all countries. We need to solve it like that too. And most important herein are the countries that manage the global financial hubs, as they have the control over the flows of money that drives this evasion. We have had higher taxes on the rich in the past. We worked our way down to this point. Coincidentally, it's the same economic situation we found ourselves in during the 1920s. High levels of wealth concentration at the top with rapidly growing wealth gaps. It can only be a self destructive pattern.

The ideal solution would not only be much higher tax rates for billionaires, but a tax code in which the only loopholes available to them are ones that would actively benefit workers, the welfare state, education, and other societal institutions. It would 1. decrease the need to hope billionaires would give money to charities purely out of their own altruism and 2. decrease the burden on the public welfare system for because employers can't/won't pay their workers a wage high enough to live without government assistance, saving the federal government money in turn. And these employees collectively are also the chief causes of market velocity and consumption.
 
GranTurNismo
The ideal solution would not only be much higher tax rates for billionaires, but a tax code in which the only loopholes available to them are ones that would actively benefit workers, the welfare state, education, and other societal institutions.
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The problem is that politicians are either rich themselves or bankrolled by the rich. So the people who would need to change those laws benefit the most from having them the way they are. If by some grace the politician isn't influenced by money, they're going to get primaried by someone who is, because the rich person will essentially buy that candidate a spot.

People also idolize the rich like they don't know that the rich person likely made their money through some pretty unethical means. I know not everyone thinks highly of the rich, but enough do that they tend to vote for the rich person vs. the middle class or poorer person.

I agree, it's a system that needs to change, but it's a system that won't change.
 
GranTurNismo

Billionaires are functionally living cancer on the societal level.
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Too broad.
GranTurNismo
They hoard all the wealth generated in a society
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No, they generate wealth (at least some of them).
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It doesn't get taxed.
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Not specific to billionaires.
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Accruing more wealth. Wealth that is never invested anywhere or does anything.
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Contradiction.

I'm not against your premise - that we need taxes which better account for the presence of international billionaires. But you use a lot of incorrect messaging along the way.
 
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GranTurNismo

Billionaires are functionally living cancer on the societal level. They hoard all the wealth generated in a society and stick it in a Scrooge McDuck dragon hoard. It doesn't get taxed. It has no velocity. It isn't spent. It goes nowhere. It just sits there. Accruing more wealth. Wealth that is never invested anywhere or does anything. And they consider taxes class warfare on them.

This is why its 100% better to just write checks for poor people. Because they actually pump the money back into the economy. Poor people need to buy food. They need to buy entertainment. They need to fix their house or get a car. The inflationary pressures that occur as a result still vastly pale in comparison to the amount of wealth that effectively can never trickle back down into society being utterly wasted. And especially the fact that billionaires seem to actively be pushing for a recession, so that they can buy and capture even more wealth from the little guys. And when I say little, that includes even your average millionaire.

A billionaire still only eats maybe 3 meals a day. They don't eat 200 meals and give that money into the food industry to make up for the starving proles that they took the wealth from. This is the literal behavior of a cancer cell by the way. It diverts insane amounts of resources to itself that it doesn't need and ends up starving out the rest of the system until it collapses. The billionaire class is a societal level tumor that will kill off the nation host if they are just left to do whatever they want with total impunity.

Also, the idea that rich people will just pick up their stuff and flee the United States is silly. Like they can't abandon places like NYC which is functionally the capital city of the planet. And if they break laws trying to hide the wealth they owe you, that's when they get held accountable by the law. Tax evasion is a global problem that affects all countries. We need to solve it like that too. And most important herein are the countries that manage the global financial hubs, as they have the control over the flows of money that drives this evasion. We have had higher taxes on the rich in the past. We worked our way down to this point. Coincidentally, it's the same economic situation we found ourselves in during the 1920s. High levels of wealth concentration at the top with rapidly growing wealth gaps. It can only be a self destructive pattern.

The ideal solution would not only be much higher tax rates for billionaires, but a tax code in which the only loopholes available to them are ones that would actively benefit workers, the welfare state, education, and other societal institutions. It would 1. decrease the need to hope billionaires would give money to charities purely out of their own altruism and 2. decrease the burden on the public welfare system for because employers can't/won't pay their workers a wage high enough to live without government assistance, saving the federal government money in turn. And these employees collectively are also the chief causes of market velocity and consumption.
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Here's my take - when people need money, anyone that has money in excess is a vile, greedy, selfish wretch. When people have an excess of wealth, anyone that wants money is a vile, greedy, selfish wretch.

Danoff
Too broad.

No, they generate wealth (at least some of them).

Not specific to billionaires.

Contradiction.

I'm not against your premise - that we need taxes which better account for the presence of international billionaires. But you use a lot of incorrect messaging along the way.
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After reading the initial rant, my first thought was "Danoff has an Ayn Rand quote in their signature, I'd bet they have something to say to this rant!"

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Nothing new or surprisingly. Our Lt. Gov. was the one who tried to infamously argue that grandparents like him would willingly die for the economy than stop it for Covid. Which was laughably stupid b/c that weasel would never actually risk his life for other Americans & I'd wager a fat bet Sen. Ernst will never put herself in a position to be cut off medical aid, either.
 
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Trump Taps Palantir to Compile Data on Americans

The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work with the government, spreading the company’s technology — which could easily merge data on Americans — throughout agencies.

In March, President Trump signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information on Americans that could give him untold surveillance power.

Mr. Trump has not publicly talked about the effort since. But behind the scenes, officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable his plan. In particular, they have turned to one company: Palantir, the data analysis and technology firm.

The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work across the federal government in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Mr. Trump took office, according to public records, including additional funds from existing contracts as well as new contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon. (This does not include a $795 million contract that the Department of Defense awarded the company last week, which has not been spent.)

Representatives of Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies — the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service — about buying its technology, according to six government officials and Palantir employees with knowledge of the discussions.

The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including D.H.S. and the Health and Human Services Department. Widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said.

Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status.
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You can just see the headlines that'll break a few months after Trump's term is up;

"List of Americans personal data found stashed behind Mar-a-Lago toilet"

"Trump boasts about having a list of personal details about US Citizens to foreign leaders visiting Mar-a-Lago"

"FBI raid Mar-a-Lago after recording of Trump showing personal data of Americans to unfriendly foreign leaders surfaces."

"FBI find that Trump still hasn't scrubbed the toilet after the classified documents scandal from his first term. List of every American citizen turns out to be list of every Sesame Street character."

"Trump convinced Big Bird is MS-13 gang-lord following humiliating revelation Trump spent millions trying to find and deport Count Von Count, and demands Big Bird be deported."
 
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GBO Possum
Axios reports - "Ukraine did not notify the Trump administration of the attack in advance, a Ukrainian official said. A U.S. official also told reporters the Trump administration was not made aware of the attack."

Can't imagine why, can you? 🤔

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They put the wrong number into their Signal chat and accidentally invited Jon Trimp, a pastry chef in Masachusetts. Completely honest mistake!
 
Trump's rudimentary understanding of how things work is destroying America one stupid decision at a time.

The Stable Genius ™ hiked tariffs to ridiculous levels, then "negotiated" mutually lower tariffs. However, he left China holding a loaded weapon, and China is using it. It's called "Rare Earth Embargo", which could lead to the destruction of the American automobile industry, as well as general economic chaos.

MAGA will, as usual, blame China.

Gift link follows...

 
GBO Possum
Axios reports - "Ukraine did not notify the Trump administration of the attack in advance, a Ukrainian official said. A U.S. official also told reporters the Trump administration was not made aware of the attack."

Can't imagine why, can you? 🤔

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Imagine being a world leader and thinking that other leaders have to notify you of any actions they plan to make, or that they have to run it by you first.

How stuck up you own rear-end must you be to think you're that important to everyone else?

Or alternatively, as Trump and the White House still want to be BFFs with Putin, this is less about being annoyed they weren't notified, and more about trying to distance themselves from the action so Putin doesn't get angry with Trump.
 
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GBO Possum
Trump's rudimentary understanding of how things work is destroying America one stupid decision at a time.
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Not that they aren't stupid and destructive decisions but there's also an element of grift involved. The caramel kleptocrat and his inner circle can buy shares at the bottom of the cycle and then see their already vast wealth magically inflated as he chickens out and the market rises again.
 
Huh. Weird.


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They're going for shock and awe because they want to decrease immigration wholesale, without regard for whether legal pathways were utilized or bypassed. They're nativist vermin. That's the point of using the Alien Enemies Act and renditioning to CECOT. The AEA gives them a spectacle. It gives them shock and awe. It makes prospective legal immigrants think twice about the physical and financial cost of immigration. Of course the AEA means injunctions because it's wholly inappropriate, what with the absence of a fighting war and foreign nationals reasonably deemed enemies per the letter of the law. If they simply deported under the Immigration and Nationality Act, like they did during bitch Trump's first term, there'd be no injunctions. But simply deporting under the INA doesn't give them shock and awe. They did it before. Obama did it before them. Biden did it after them. Sure, Obama amended the INA for DACA, but it wasn't for nothing that progressives and immigration advocates nicknamed him "Deporter in Chief."
 
TexRex
Conservative is when you cry like a little bitch about Pride Month.
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Illinois congresswoman proposes Family Month to counter Pride Month

Illinois Congresswoman Mary Miller is introducing a bill to rename "Pride Month" as "Family Month" to honor the importance of marriage and family.
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It's June 3rd so expect plenty more of this pandering to the worthless base.
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I don't understand how people can be so insecure about heterosexuality. The whole "family" thing is such a misguided distraction. Gay people can have families. Also these people seem to hate children, except when they really really like children. It's really just a poorly veiled attempt to reinforce (as if it needed it) heterosexuality.
 
Danoff
Also these people seem to hate children, except when they really really like children.
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Yeah. Found this while googling.



If FRC sounds familiar, it may be to do with child molester and CSAM connoisseur Josh Duggar having been a lobbyist for the anti-LGBT group.

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They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
 
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Secret meeting of Dumold and Muskrat before he left politricks.
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Hmmm, didn’t know The Ten Commandments was something Republicans were familiar with. Wait til they read this thing called the New Covenant…( it ain’t just about adding Jewish holidays to USA calendars), Republicans might start banning bibles from stores and the internet.
 
Danoff
I don't understand how people can be so insecure about heterosexuality. The whole "family" thing is such a misguided distraction. Gay people can have families. Also these people seem to hate children, except when they really really like children. It's really just a poorly veiled attempt to reinforce (as if it needed it) heterosexuality.
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Because these idiots think everything is zero sum. "Oh no, if they promote pride and gay inclusion, they're pushing out Christianity and family values". You can have all that together, and secondly, Republicans have done a fantastic job of showing their family values as they get caught cheating on their wives or with children inappropriately.
 

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