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I don't understand how people can be so insecure about heterosexuality. The whole "family" thing is such a misguided distraction. Gay people can have families. Also these people seem to hate children, except when they really really like children. It's really just a poorly veiled attempt to reinforce (as if it needed it) heterosexuality.
The wife and I are currently watching The Handmaid's Tale, so the first thing that comes to mind isn't so much that this is reinforcing heterosexuality, and more so that it's reinforcing Christian values, and Republicans always do great with the Bible Belt states, so you've got to be seen to be doing right by them.

Homosexuality is a sin to old testament Christians, and if you can't (yet) punish people for not being heterosexual, best thing you can do is make a big show of how great heterosexuals are and celebrate them.
 
Homosexuality is a sin to old testament Christians, and if you can't (yet) punish people for not being heterosexual, best thing you can do is make a big show of how great heterosexuals are and celebrate them.
Jesus Christ was probably not heterosexual. No wife, no children, no sexual relations.

Edit: And what about God itself? Having an affair with Joseph's wife like that. Talk about playing fast and loose with the nuclear family values!
 
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...and more so that it's reinforcing Christian values, and Republicans always do great with the Bible Belt states, so you've got to be seen to be doing right by them.
Its never been about actual 'christian values' - its about finding justification for their deep-set prejudices. No one can seriously look at the current GOP/MAGA crowd and think they uphold true christian values. There's plenty fire and brimstone, old testament mentality, but very little 'teachings of Jesus' about how they go about conducting their lives.
 
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Its never been about actual 'christian values' - its about finding justification for their deep-set prejudices. No one can seriously look at the current GOP/MAGA crowd and think they uphold true christian values. There's plenty fire and brimstone, old testament mentality, but very little 'teachings of Jesus' about how they go about conducting their lives.
Jesus was so woke though. A christian in name only. /s
 
I can't even begin to imagine the mental gymnastics they must go through to justify their Christianity.
The same as anyone else who can't follow the contradictory teachings of Christianity. They just channel it for evil rather than being affable and welcoming.
 
Look I know I've said the Trump base is stupid and pathetic...and I stand by that...but I think they might not be this stupid and pathetic?

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I can't even begin to imagine the mental gymnastics they must go through to justify their Christianity.
So the thing about Christianity and organized religion broadly is that it's less about what you actually believe and more about signaling to others that what you purport to believe is the right and good thing.
 
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ACB isn't Trumping hard enough and is acting too much like a real judge, according to ABC News.
I remember when Trump pledged to nominate a woman to SCOTUS and right wing propagandists screamed that he was discriminating against men.* Well perhaps the bitch should have vetted her more thoroughly.

*Oh wait I'm thinking of Biden, and that the woman would also be black was certainly part of the bitchfit.
 
The same as anyone else who can't follow the contradictory teachings of Christianity. They just channel it for evil rather than being affable and welcoming.
We have to remember most Americans are only taught the teachings of Christianity through their church and we all know full well the churches of this country will rarely (if ever), be completely up front about all the contradictions and atrocities the Bible talks about. If anything, the pastors will do their best to interpret the passages as they see fit. And because pastors are seen as leaders & the utmost believers, questioning those interpretations could be seen as insulting, esp. if you're young.


It's no surprise why the church has a reputation for pastors sexually assaulting children. Parents will trust their pastor as a "man of God", they would never do something heinous and contradictory to the book they already selectively teach people about....
Republican candidate for Governor of California in 2026.

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From "Communism bad because millions died under Stalin & Mao" to "Communism bad b/c the Nazis didn't like them".

Conservatism in America is so far in the toilet, a reasonable person would actually welcome communism by such comparison.
 
Too broad.

No, they generate wealth (at least some of them).

Not specific to billionaires.

Contradiction.

I'm not against your premise, that - that we need taxes which better account for the presence of international billionaires. But you use a lot of incorrect messaging along the way.
My primary aim was rhetorical flair as opposed to precision. “Billionaire” is just a lucrative cut-off.

To what extent they have generated wealth is irrelevant to my argument. All billionaires have created wealth to some degree, even no-name heirs. Sure, it’s principled and “fair” if billionaires are taxed at the same rate as everyone else. But there are equities to be weighed in a modern, civilized democracy, and for practical purposes wealth isn’t an infinite sum game either. Musk is the poster child for this; he obtained and spent his fortunes without any extralegal means by and large (though unethically at times). But the propensity for billionaires like Musk to inflict grave harms onto our sociopolitical life is much greater than it is for altruism. At a certain point extreme wealth has to be restricted.

It absolutely is specific to billionaires/the uber-rich, though. Sure, they have the highest nominal tax rates. But the amount of loopholes and writeoffs and deductions made available to them, oftentimes bought by their own wealth, makes many billionaires pay an effective tax rate lower than the middle class.

Wealth attained via speculation does not equate to productive economic output. That’s mostly what I meant. Nothing contradictory about that whatsoever.
 
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My primary aim was rhetorical flair as opposed to precision. “Billionaire” is just a lucrative cut-off.

To what extent they have generated wealth is irrelevant to my argument. All billionaires have created wealth to some degree, even no-name heirs. Sure, it’s principled and “fair” if billionaires are taxed at the same rate as everyone else. But there are equities to be weighed in a modern, civilized democracy, and for practical purposes wealth isn’t an infinite sum game either. Musk is the poster child for this; he obtained and spent his fortunes without any extralegal means by and large (though unethically at times). But the propensity for billionaires like Musk to inflict grave harms onto our sociopolitical life is much greater than it is for altruism. At a certain point extreme wealth has to be restricted.

It absolutely is specific to billionaires/the uber-rich, though. Sure, they have the highest nominal tax rates. But the amount of loopholes and writeoffs and deductions made available to them, oftentimes bought by their own wealth, makes many billionaires pay an effective tax rate lower than the middle class.

Wealth attained via speculation does not equate to productive economic output. That’s mostly what I meant. Nothing contradictory about that whatsoever.
So the stick you're waving around isn't actually at billionaires as such, but those that use their wealth to influence politics in an adverse way?

That's good to know, I was afraid I was going to have to go all "punishing the drivers of industry for contributing more and obtaining more wealth, devalues their contributions and will drive them to setup shop in other countries" for a second there...
 
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lol. lmao.
I mean it sucks that someone's getting their money but worthless Trumpers (but I repeat myself) getting fleeced is legitimately funny. I hope it hurts.
 
Just a reminder about the 2025 Axios Harris Poll of reputation rankings. From the bottom of the barrel, limited to the sludge categorized as "Poor" or "Very Poor", are these companies. "The Horrible 13". See if you can guess why for each of them


Boeing
JCPenney
Temu
ByteDance (TikTok)
UnitedHealth Group
Fox Corporation
Shein
Tesla Motors
Wells Fargo & Company
Meta (Facebook)
X (formerly Twitter)
The Trump Organization
Spirit Airlines

The list is ordered with the least reprehensible first, right on down to the very bottom of the barrel.

Source:- https://www.axios.com/2025/05/20/axios-harris-poll-company-reputation-ranking
 
Just a reminder about the 2025 Axios Harris Poll of reputation rankings. From the bottom of the barrel, limited to the sludge categorized as "Poor" or "Very Poor", are these companies. "The Horrible 13". See if you can guess why for each of them


Boeing
JCPenney
Temu
ByteDance (TikTok)
UnitedHealth Group
Fox Corporation
Shein
Tesla Motors
Wells Fargo & Company
Meta (Facebook)
X (formerly Twitter)
The Trump Organization
Spirit Airlines

The list is ordered with the least reprehensible first, right on down to the very bottom of the barrel.

Source:- https://www.axios.com/2025/05/20/axios-harris-poll-company-reputation-ranking
I think Spirit is rated too low here. Boeing must have bribed someone to not be as low.
 
Just a reminder about the 2025 Axios Harris Poll of reputation rankings. From the bottom of the barrel, limited to the sludge categorized as "Poor" or "Very Poor", are these companies. "The Horrible 13". See if you can guess why for each of them


Boeing
JCPenney
Temu
ByteDance (TikTok)
UnitedHealth Group
Fox Corporation
Shein
Tesla Motors
Wells Fargo & Company
Meta (Facebook)
X (formerly Twitter)
The Trump Organization
Spirit Airlines

The list is ordered with the least reprehensible first, right on down to the very bottom of the barrel.

Source:- https://www.axios.com/2025/05/20/axios-harris-poll-company-reputation-ranking
Way to go Microsoft. #3 in the reputation stakes, and all they had to do was release a couple of PlayStation games, lol.

Perhaps Sony should take a leaf outta their book if they want to regain those thirteen places they lost from last year?
 
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