I could understand someone becoming bored with GT4P (after playing GT3), and using a DS2. But the DFP is simply a must. I've never used a wheel since the PSONE, but after reading about the DFP decided to splash out on it, and have not regretted it for one minute. The game is transformed. Plus it is a must, IMO, to use the GT database website as mentioned earlier to give yourself a true challenge. When you think you have gone as quick as possible, you find there is always someone quicker.