Are Deleted Items Deleted Forever?

lethalAE86typeR

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Well i was wondering if the deleted items FROM THE RECYCLE BIN are foever deleted? If not whee can see those other items and can delete those. I know this is in the wrong forum,but i think theres more people in this forum.
 
many are lost permanently, some are lost partially, some aren't lost at all but rather just hidden. Sometimes you can recover them with various applications

This app here might help you out. There's hundereds of others out there as well. So look around
 
im not really lookin for files i ACCIDENTALLY deleted but i just wondering if every thing i delete from the recycle bin be gone forever. After u delete those where the heck do those deleted files go, i dont think they are reused for space. those deleted files from the recycle bin would be dead weight in ur computer. Thanks for that link emad that might help in the future,so thanks again!
 
basically, when you delete from the recycle bin, the hard drive/os just put a marker in that area saying that it's empty space. It doesn't actually bother to fully delete that chunk of data until something overwrites that portion of the hard disk
 
Tools > Folder Options > View. Select "Show Hidden Files and Folders". Some computers save backups in Hidden form. You may want to go back to the folder you deleted the file from primarily and check that.
 
When it gets deleted from the Recycle Bin, the Operating system deletes the location identification from it's access path. It does not delete the information. If you add enough stuff to the machine, it will eventually over write that space, and the info will be gone.

Been watching a crime show, have you?

AO
 
Hahaha I bet he has. Or he has been looking at content not allowed by his parent/guardian, and his parent/guardian probably checks through the computer occasionally.
 
Der Alta
Been watching a crime show, have you?

AO
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:lol: I suspected that he wanted to absolutely make sure he had deleted something, from the way he worded his opening post.

As said above, deleting a file does not remove it from the hard drive, but merely marks the sectors as ready for reuse. It is very easy for the police or whoever to remove your hard drive and piece together file fragments to work out what the original file contained...even if parts of the file had been overwritten. To be sure you have removed a file, do a "full format" on your drive :) not very practical, or fill up your drive with some rubbish to ensure that every sector has been overwritten, again not very practical. Bottom line...don't download illegal files :)

NASA have a laboratory that can put together the pieces of a smashed up hard drive and recover files, by reading one sector at at time and using software to reassemble it.

If you visit any "Black Hat" forum, you'll find they go to extraordinary lengths to prevent their drives from being examined. The most effective method is to attach a small explosive device to the hard drive that can be triggered remotely...really! That is how hard it is to remove "ALL" trace.
 
How about if he just over-writes the file with another, rename it to a "safe" name and THEN delete it. That should look perfectly innocent, or doesn't it work that way?
 
Jimmy Enslashay
How about if he just over-writes the file with another, rename it to a "safe" name and THEN delete it. That should look perfectly innocent, or doesn't it work that way?
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Because of the way the operating system works, you can't "choose" which sector to overwrite, and also if you have ever run disk defrag, you will notice that a file is spread all of the place. If you are good with "Disk Doctor" you might be able to identify the fragments that make up the file (after several days of hunting :) ), and then alter the hex values that are contained at those locations.

That is why I said you'd have to "Fill" the drive just to be sure that you overwrite every sector.
 
Oh, I see. Thanks for the help, I understand better. It's one area of Computers I've never fully understood.
 
i didnt do anything that my parent/gaurdian didnt want me to see. You sound like my school. lol. I was curuious about this, they had an explanation on The Screen Savers of TechTv now G4TV. They had 3 or more hard drives trying to delete every file that has already been deleted. They even put acid on it and it destroyed it,and they put gas on it and lit it on fire. it was cool. but i really didnt under stand some of it. So thats why i asked you guys. Your explanations are easier for me . So thank you!
 

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