I still consider it a road car, in the same vein as a track-prepped Miata weekend warrior that can still be driven on the street. It's true that at the same PP the 111R will smoke the MSE, but the MSE really holds its own considering its (by comparison) power deficiency. I, however, like to slam my cars to the ground (unless the tune "prohibits" this for the sake of handling) and the MSE wins hands-down in this regard, -45 baby!