Assetto Corsa EVO Early Access Discussion Thread

[Alfa Romeo GT]

As usual, a very good selection of cars, notably the Golf, which has its place in this game and is seen too rarely.

I can't wait for them to arrive so I can drive them on... the Nordschleife, of course.

 

[Strittan]

Really looking forward to the Sport Quattro.

Edit: Oh yes, and the Mk1 Golf. Can’t get enough of them 80’s boxes.

 

[Ande3200]

I am most likely not going touch ac evo until its 1.0.

And im intrested too see how kunos respond to economy feature, if its really removed forever or if its going to be introduced back later.

If kunos cant sort it out let modders deal with it.

 

[Cote Dazur]

I am most likely not going touch ac evo until its 1.0.

And im intrested too see how kunos respond to economy feature, if its really removed forever or if its going to be introduced back later.

If kunos cant sort it out let modders deal with it.

## An Update on the Future of Assetto Corsa EVO ##
With Release 0.5, we want to take a moment to share an important update about the direction of Assetto Corsa EVO, shaped by ongoing discussion and feedback from our community.
After careful evaluation and many internal conversations, we’ve decided to move away from the current Career mode and in-game economy systems. This means features such as XP, virtual currency, and economy-based progression will no longer be part of the experience. This decision wasn’t taken lightly, but it allows us to focus on building a clearer, more authentic experience that better reflects what our community values and supports the long-term vision of the game.
Rather than simply removing structure, this change allows us to replace the Career mode with experiences that are more directly focused on driving and improvement. The single-player experience will continue to grow through a completely reworked Driving Academy, designed to be a meaningful tool for learning, improving driving skills, and mastering cars and tracks.
Alongside this, we’re investing in a set of competitive features and special events built around online leaderboards, hotstints, and other focused game modes. These experiences are designed to offer clear goals, replayability, and healthy competition, without the limitations of a traditional economy system.
By simplifying the overall structure, we gain more freedom to focus on what matters most behind the wheel: driving quality, racing, and simulation depth. It also allows the team to move faster and spend more time polishing systems that many of you care deeply about, including:
• deeper racing and simulation systems
• strong modding foundations
• future community-driven multiplayer options
• richer and more flexible single-player content
• competitive features and special events based on leaderboards and time-based challenges
• free-roam development and ongoing UI improvements
While the original Career mode won’t be part of the final direction, providing meaningful structure for solo play remains very important to us. Our goal is to guide progression through skill, learning, and competition, rather than through an artificial economy, while continuing to support well-received features like vehicle tuning.
## Looking Ahead ##
Release 0.5 is a meaningful step forward in variety and usability, with new content to drive, UI and performance improvements and the aim of being a foundation for what will come up next.
Assetto Corsa EVO development has never been more intense, and with every Early Access update, the goal is to deliver at our best towards our vision of Driving, Simulation, Evolved.

 

[Alfa Romeo GT]

I wanted hundreds of sheit boxes and the Nordschleife with excellent handling.

Now all that's missing are hundreds of sheitboxes, and I almost forgot about proper triple screen management.


What shocks me is that Assetto Rally is one of the very few games to have this level of triple screen (along with RBR) using the Unreal Engine.

But Assetto EVO, with an engine created by themselves, is absolutely awful in triple screen.

And I'm not even talking about VR, which made my nose bleed.

Oh and i hope that 0.5 will bring fewer freezes on the Nordschleife, which will save me from a few crashes against the safety barrier (especially since I'm not in a BMW when it happens).

What surprises me is that the BMWs in the game have turn signals, which isn't realistic.
It's much worse than removing XP from the game.

 

[Ande3200]

## An Update on the Future of Assetto Corsa EVO ##
With Release 0.5, we want to take a moment to share an important update about the direction of Assetto Corsa EVO, shaped by ongoing discussion and feedback from our community.
After careful evaluation and many internal conversations, we’ve decided to move away from the current Career mode and in-game economy systems. This means features such as XP, virtual currency, and economy-based progression will no longer be part of the experience. This decision wasn’t taken lightly, but it allows us to focus on building a clearer, more authentic experience that better reflects what our community values and supports the long-term vision of the game.
Rather than simply removing structure, this change allows us to replace the Career mode with experiences that are more directly focused on driving and improvement. The single-player experience will continue to grow through a completely reworked Driving Academy, designed to be a meaningful tool for learning, improving driving skills, and mastering cars and tracks.
Alongside this, we’re investing in a set of competitive features and special events built around online leaderboards, hotstints, and other focused game modes. These experiences are designed to offer clear goals, replayability, and healthy competition, without the limitations of a traditional economy system.
By simplifying the overall structure, we gain more freedom to focus on what matters most behind the wheel: driving quality, racing, and simulation depth. It also allows the team to move faster and spend more time polishing systems that many of you care deeply about, including:
• deeper racing and simulation systems
• strong modding foundations
• future community-driven multiplayer options
• richer and more flexible single-player content
• competitive features and special events based on leaderboards and time-based challenges
• free-roam development and ongoing UI improvements
While the original Career mode won’t be part of the final direction, providing meaningful structure for solo play remains very important to us. Our goal is to guide progression through skill, learning, and competition, rather than through an artificial economy, while continuing to support well-received features like vehicle tuning.
## Looking Ahead ##
Release 0.5 is a meaningful step forward in variety and usability, with new content to drive, UI and performance improvements and the aim of being a foundation for what will come up next.
Assetto Corsa EVO development has never been more intense, and with every Early Access update, the goal is to deliver at our best towards our vision of Driving, Simulation, Evolved.

I already know the statement they made, what i was refering to was will kunos change their mind on it going forward.

Its costly move from kunos to have it completly removed, it kills a lot of ac evo pontential. Open world and car tuning is not going to feel as meaningful without progression system.

Feels like a lot of wasted time given they created an seperate open mode and career for those that want more of progression, its not going to be as sucessfull without an economy.

It feels just like gt7 all over again when it come out with so much wasted pontential.

 

[Alfa Romeo GT]

Personally, I have absolutely no concerns about the studio, the quality of the game, or even sales.

On PC, there are absolutely no equivalent simulators that offer varied content with production cars/****boxes.
Ten years later, Assetto Corsa 1 is still very popular with the community and is played a lot, much more than the majority of simulators with huge sales.


In fact, I think that the only enemy of Assetto Evo is certainly not XP or money management, which will be forgotten after a few years, but Assetto Corsa 1 itself, which is fully moddable, unlike EVO, which will be more limited.

However, the mods for Assetto 1 were necessary because the game was quite empty (no day/night cycle, no rain, and very little content), but it had a good foundation, whereas Evo will offer more content than the first game for a song (35 bucks is not expensive), but in the automotive world, we are never satisfied. there are so many interesting cars that games can't offer everything.

The only limit is the modders' imagination (or the theft of car models from other games), and if EVO will be very limited in terms of mods, I have my doubts about its longevity.

 

[cjsrt4]

But Assetto EVO, with an engine created by themselves, is absolutely awful in triple screen.

And I'm not even talking about VR, which made my nose bleed.

Did I miss something? I haven't played the game in about a month, but triples / VR were pretty solid from what I remember. That's the one thing I haven't had too many issues with since release.

 

[Ande3200]

Personally, I have absolutely no concerns about the studio, the quality of the game, or even sales.

On PC, there are absolutely no equivalent simulators that offer varied content with production cars/****boxes.
Ten years later, Assetto Corsa 1 is still very popular with the community and is played a lot, much more than the majority of simulators with huge sales.


In fact, I think that the only enemy of Assetto Evo is certainly not XP or money management, which will be forgotten after a few years, but Assetto Corsa 1 itself, which is fully moddable, unlike EVO, which will be more limited.

However, the mods for Assetto 1 were necessary because the game was quite empty (no day/night cycle, no rain, and very little content), but it had a good foundation, whereas Evo will offer more content than the first game for a song (35 bucks is not expensive), but in the automotive world, we are never satisfied. there are so many interesting cars that games can't offer everything.

The only limit is the modders' imagination (or the theft of car models from other games), and if EVO will be very limited in terms of mods, I have my doubts about its longevity.

Not having an economy is going hurt ac evo in the longrun. Their was plenty of buyers that bought it for that, to have something like gt with better physics on pc. Its wasted pontential.

Its not going to be as sucessfull without an economy. Kunos plan was to reach a broader audiance not going to do that if there is not a progression system.

Modders could possibly fix that issue, which could make it way more sucessfull.

I dont think kunos drop economy because they did not want it, i think it has to do with resources, the open world is not a small task even less so with such a big map. Its most likely takes most of kunos resources to make it.

 

[Beezer215]

But Assetto EVO, with an engine created by themselves, is absolutely awful in triple screen.

I believe this is the video that we used to set up our triples. It's older but it works.

 

[Strittan]

Open world and car tuning is not going to feel as meaningful without progression system.

In your opinion.

 

[Ande3200]

In your opinion.

It just wont. If you can just do anything without any effort things is not going click the same as something you had to work towards,

Kind of like reallife.

Their needs to be some stuff to the open world or its going get boring really quick, hopefully kunos still keep their Word that their will be gas stations, buisnesses and races etc. And not just an big empty map.

Without a progression system available ac evo is no doubt going to be less sucessfull than it would with it,

77% of the recent reviews on steam is now negative. All have went sideways since kunos made the call to scrap the economy. Its clear people dont like it
and i am one of them.

Its dangerous what kunos did to heavily market economy so hard before start of early access and then just take it away. It was one of ac evo biggest features that we wont have.


It will be intresting what respond kunos have to this soon. But their is no doubt a lot of damage made. Which sadly kunos have themself to blame for.

 

[Strittan]

It just wont. If you can just do anything without any effort things is not going click the same as something you had to work towards,

Kind of like reallife.

Their needs to be some stuff to the open world or its going get boring really quick, hopefully kunos still keep their Word that their will be gas stations, buisnesses and races etc. And not just an big empty map.

Without a progression system available ac evo is no doubt going to be less sucessfull than it would with it,

77% of the recent reviews on steam is now negative. All have went sideways since kunos made the call to scrap the economy. Its clear people dont like it
and i am one of them.

Its dangerous what kunos did to heavily market economy so hard before start of early access and then just take it away. It was one of ac evo biggest features that we wont have.


It will be intresting what respond kunos have to this soon. But their is no doubt a lot of damage made. Which sadly kunos have themself to blame for.

You keep going on as if your opinion is objective truth. Well, it’s not, even if I’m the only one who doesn’t agree with you.

Well, yes, gas stations and businesses would be nice, and I haven’t seen or heard them say there won’t be any.

Edit: Speaking of reviews. Do you think GT7’s 2.6 user score on Metacritic reflects how the game is? I think it does. Just saying.

 

[CTRL Garage]

You keep going on as if your opinion is objective truth. Well, it’s not, even if I’m the only one who doesn’t agree with you.

Well, yes, gas stations and businesses would be nice, and I haven’t seen or heard them say there won’t be any.

What’s the point of having them if there’s no progression system/career?

Edit: Speaking of reviews. Do you think GT7’s 2.6 user score on Metacritic reflects how the game is? I think it does. Just saying.

Bro can’t go a day without a jab at GT7… what a clown

 

[warp9engage]

It just wont. If you can just do anything without any effort things is not going click the same as something you had to work towards,

Kind of like reallife.

Whether it "clicks" truly depends on the person. Videogames are, more often than not, a form of escapism, the closest most of us get to living our fantasies. Because people are painfully aware real life doesn't like to give you anything for free, is why they tend to like their videogames to be the opposite of that. They've already grinded enough at their 9-to-5 to be able to afford their hobby. The last thing they want is to be told they need to work more.

I, personally, ever since my gaming time has been significantly reduced compared to what it used to be, find myself very much agreeing with the above perspective. I've already worked hard to buy this game, now just let me go crazy, if I so desire. For me, the game only truly begins once I've opened everything, and have the full breaths of content and gameplay.

Without a progression system available ac evo is no doubt going to be less sucessfull than it would with it,

That would be inaccurate. The original AC became a phenomenon without a proper progression system. The problem for ACE, is that the original still exists, its still going strong and it cheaper and easier to come by. When you add all the mods (lots for free) to it then... No one's going to pay premium if they can get "close enough" for far less.

77% of the recent reviews on steam is now negative. All have went sideways since kunos made the call to scrap the economy. Its clear people dont like it

Be careful with "celebrating" too soon. As of this moment, since the announcement and assuming all reviews are about the progression removal, plus assuming no one's using multiple accounts to leave reviews, you have around 1000 negative reviews. That's about 1/8th of the peak player count when the last major update dropped, 1/25th of all-time player count record. Currently, the game's averaging only about 1.5K people at peak hours, so I want to see what will happen when a couple more thousand people get called back into ACEvo by the release of a new major update. I wanna see what their reaction will be to the changes. If the game starts to raise its score again after that, we may have to rethink our conclusions.

It will be intresting what respond kunos have to this soon. But their is no doubt a lot of damage made. Which sadly kunos have themself to blame for.

I think they won't respond, and will likely reduce communication to the necessary until the people give up. The reason I think this, is because the community is in an outrage state. When this happens, no communication short of a decision reversal will appease them. If that decision reversal is out of the question, for any number of reasons, then there's nothing they can say that won't have a significant chance at making things even worse. Unfortunately for Kunos, I think they can't turn back. Any attempt to explain their decision or try to explain their compromise, will be met with accusations of either incompetence, deceit, or both. Not to mention, if they make more promises, as they attempt to appease, and then they also can't keep those, then there will be no end to people's ire. Their best option is to keep the head down, work hard to deliver what they still promise, take a bit of page out of Hello Games.

 

[Strittan]

What’s the point of having them if there’s no progression system/career?

The point of gas stations would be to fill up your car when you’re out of gas. The point of businesses? I don’t know to be honest. Fair point.

Bro can’t go a day without a jab at GT7… what a clown

Why do you care? Also, it wasn’t me who brought up review scores.

 

[sirjim73]

Whether it "clicks" truly depends on the person. Videogames are, more often than not, a form of escapism, the closest most of us get to living our fantasies. Because people are painfully aware real life doesn't like to give you anything for free, is why they tend to like their videogames to be the opposite of that. They've already grinded enough at their 9-to-5 to be able to afford their hobby. The last thing they want is to be told they need to work more.

I, personally, ever since my gaming time has been significantly reduced compared to what it used to be, find myself very much agreeing with the above perspective. I've already worked hard to buy this game, now just let me go crazy, if I so desire. For me, the game only truly begins once I've opened everything, and have the full breaths of content and gameplay.

That would be inaccurate. The original AC became a phenomenon without a proper progression system. The problem for ACE, is that the original still exists, its still going strong and it cheaper and easier to come by. When you add all the mods (lots for free) to it then... No one's going to pay premium if they can get "close enough" for far less.


Be careful with "celebrating" too soon. As of this moment, since the announcement and assuming all reviews are about the progression removal, plus assuming no one's using multiple accounts to leave reviews, you have around 1000 negative reviews. That's about 1/8th of the peak player count when the last major update dropped, 1/25th of all-time player count record. Currently, the game's averaging only about 1.5K people at peak hours, so I want to see what will happen when a couple more thousand people get called back into ACEvo by the release of a new major update. I wanna see what their reaction will be to the changes. If the game starts to raise its score again after that, we may have to rethink our conclusions.


I think they won't respond, and will likely reduce communication to the necessary until the people give up. The reason I think this, is because the community is in an outrage state. When this happens, no communication short of a decision reversal will appease them. If that decision reversal is out of the question, for any number of reasons, then there's nothing they can say that won't have a significant chance at making things even worse. Unfortunately for Kunos, I think they can't turn back. Any attempt to explain their decision or try to explain their compromise, will be met with accusations of either incompetence, deceit, or both. Not to mention, if they make more promises, as they attempt to appease, and then they also can't keep those, then there will be no end to people's ire. Their best option is to keep the head down, work hard to deliver what they still promise, take a bit of page out of Hello Games.

I think you've hit the key point on the head here. The biggest issue AC Evo still has is AC1, in my opinion.
Although I would add to this, I would argue AC1 became a "phenomenon" principally because of mods. There isn't much evidence of AC1 being a phenomenon on console, and the lack of mods is, I believe, the main reason for that?

So, to compete with "itself", I would argue that AC Evo needs to add something that AC1 with mods doesn't have. Free roam by itself isn't it as there are many free roam map mods available for AC1 - Lake Louise etc etc etc.

At the moment, I'm not sure what AC Evo adds other than more recent graphics and possibly physics upgrades? More recent cars are included, but many of those are probably available as mods for AC1.

I've bought the Early Access and am a supporter of Kunos, but I still don't see the "killer" aspect of AC Evo yet, personally.

 

[warp9engage]

So, to compete with "itself", I would argue that AC Evo needs to add something that AC1 with mods doesn't have. Free roam by itself isn't it as there are many free roam map mods available for AC1 - Lake Louise etc etc etc.

Thing is... not even a proper career mode would be properly new. Have you tried looking at a mod called Assetto Corsa Evoluzione? (Curious name isn't it?).

The modding community really is something, and honestly, against that, Kunos is really fighting an uphill battle.

 

[sirjim73]

Thing is... not even a proper career mode would be properly new. Have you tried looking at a mod called Assetto Corsa Evoluzione? (Curious name isn't it?).

The modding community really is something, and honestly, against that, Kunos is really fighting an uphill battle.

I will need to look that mod up, thanks.
I do have a different career mode which uses the base game content and is very funny at times.

Yes, I agree it's an uphill battle.

However, if you're fighting an uphill battle for AC Evo, you surely need to keep as much as possible in your arsenal?

 

[Nebuc72]

Why do you care? Also, it wasn’t me who brought up review scores.

I mean don't you think it's just a bit sad?
Nearly a 40 year old man and you spend your free time on a Gran Turismo forum constantly telling people you think it sucks, or other parts of this thread spent telling people you hope their wishes for this game don't come true because you don't want a mode added (that many people were excited for) whilst you wouldn't even have to play it?

Is that all fun for you?

 

[Strittan]

I mean don't you think it's just a bit sad?
Nearly a 40 year old man and you spend your free time on a Gran Turismo forum constantly telling people you think it sucks, or other parts of this thread spent telling people you hope their wishes for this game don't come true because you don't want a mode added (that many people were excited for) whilst you wouldn't even have to play it?

Is that all fun for you?

The point I was trying to make earlier was simply that review scores aren’t all that important. Something having a score of 2.6 out of 10 would indicate it’s not very good, but there are clear indications that a lot of people like it nonetheless.

I seriously have no idea why you got offended. It was not my intention.

 

[Ande3200]

You keep going on as if your opinion is objective truth. Well, it’s not, even if I’m the only one who doesn’t agree with you.

Well, yes, gas stations and businesses would be nice, and I haven’t seen or heard them say there won’t be any.

Edit: Speaking of reviews. Do you think GT7’s 2.6 user score on Metacritic reflects how the game is? I think it does. Just saying.

Metacritic has no merit. Its just trolls. You dont need to own the game to post any reviews there. The reviews you should be looking at is the playstation store.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Kunos have shot themselves in the foot. I was honestly willing to give this game a go but I just don't see the point anymore. They've squandered a massive opportunity to really make an impact on the racing genre and attract new players. Kunos will suffer in the long term and I honestly feel as though they'll struggle to recover from this misstep.

 

[Alfa Romeo GT]

At the moment, I'm not sure what AC Evo adds other than more recent graphics and possibly physics upgrades?

It offers the best sensations in production vehicles.

Test the F40 with a steering wheel on evo and compare it to other games, and you'll understand.

When you accelerate and the twin turbo kicks in, your sphincter automatically retracts as a protective measure because it's so incredible.

Add to that the feeling behind the wheel, which clearly tells you that the car wants to kill you.

What's more, the game offers a great sense of speed, unlike AC 1, which had issues in this area and gave the impression of understeer with production cars.

As for the open world, those who question its usefulness without having anything to do clearly haven't tested the open worlds and track days of AC 1 on multiplayer servers, which are packed with players.

People just spend their time driving for fun.
They do lap after lap, just like in real life, for the pleasure of driving.

 

[Ande3200]

Kunos have shot themselves in the foot. I was honestly willing to give this game a go but I just don't see the point anymore. They've squandered a massive opportunity to really make an impact on the racing genre and attract new players. Kunos will suffer in the long term and I honestly feel as though they'll struggle to recover from this misstep.

100%👍 and i say that despite defended ac evo through a lot of issues it had.

 

[CTRL Garage]

I seriously have no idea why you got offended. It was not my intention.

Oh your intentions are quite clear

Someone very closely resembling a GT7 fanboy basically said it’s more fun to grind to afford the dream car than driving the dream car itself. Well, glad he’s not in charge.

Edit: Speaking of reviews. Do you think GT7’s 2.6 user score on Metacritic reflects how the game is? I think it does. Just saying.

and wow, it sucks.

The Real Driving Simulator… yeah right. I feel sorry for anyone who defends this joke of a ”simulator.”
I might have been more apologetic if the game was good in other areas, but it’s not. Well, it looks alright I guess, there you go.

 

[Strittan]

Oh your intentions are quite clear

I don’t see an insult towards you in any of those messages, so again, if you got offended by me (a sad nearly 40 year old clown) saying a game you like sucks, I’m sorry. Not my intention.

 

[nukleabomb]

I don’t see an insult towards you in any of those messages, so again, if you got offended by me (a sad nearly 40 year old clown) saying a game you like sucks, I’m sorry. Not my intention.

This you?

This just says a lot about how childish people are. The game has not even changed yet and people decide to give it negative reviews just because.

Coming back to AC Evo, they are adding some real good tracks and cars. Can't fault them there. I do hope they do the car sounds justice.